Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 19 hours ago, tomwvr said: Unless he wants to re work his contract I doubt they keep him. Very good center when healthy but has missed way too much time the last two seasons We don't actually save that much by cutting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: We don't actually save that much by cutting him. If it’s a post 6/1 cut it’s >10M. So it could be on the table. But I do think a restructure with spending a 3rd/4th on a center would be a good path. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 9 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: We don't actually save that much by cutting him. As per Overthecap we’d save between $7.7M and just over $10M depending on pre or post June 1. I’d be surprised if he is back absent a significant restructure - him being released is far more likely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, Ball Security said: If it’s a post 6/1 cut it’s >10M. So it could be on the table. But I do think a restructure with spending a 3rd/4th on a center would be a good path. 11 minutes ago, MartinC said: As per Overthecap we’d save between $7.7M and just over $10M depending on pre or post June 1. I’d be surprised if he is back absent a significant restructure - him being released is far more likely. I thought it was 3.3 for some reason. I'd like to restructure and have him back though. He was a top 5 center, but I'd also aggressively draft the position. Chase and Roullier are a very good tandom. When healthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I always thought. Roullier was overrated even the 2 previous years on pass blocking, jail break up the middle was common. Hope Paul is the man at LG. Center and RT seem to be top spots for upgrade. Leno, was he responsible to block the end/ LB against the Giants at the Goal line both games? or? The first game the announcer said they are not going to block, he spotted it right away, then boom right in the back of TH and you do it again the next Giants game and fumble TD. Maybe the reason Turner got canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 13 minutes ago, skinsfan66 said: I always thought. Roullier was overrated You're wrong. He was excellent. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: You're wrong. He was excellent. But like they say availability is as important as ability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 11 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: I thought it was 3.3 for some reason. I'd like to restructure and have him back though. He was a top 5 center, but I'd also aggressively draft the position. Chase and Roullier are a very good tandom. When healthy Meant Roullier and Larson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/13/2023 at 8:56 PM, tomwvr said: But like they say availability is as important as ability Your best ability, is your availability! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/12/2023 at 12:45 PM, Ball Security said: Left to right: Geron Christian, Piersbacher, Nick Martin, Wes Martin, Saahdiq Charles. Make it happen, Ron. On 1/12/2023 at 2:23 PM, Warhead36 said: With Stephon Heyer as the 6th Man Don't forget Mark Wilson as a gift for Buges. He is super smart. It's amazing all the guys we have gotten our hopes up for who have had minimal impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Don't know where those Roullier numbers are coming from, but I think you guys are misreading the chart. We save $4.77M with a pre 6/1 release and $8.82M with a post 6/1 release. However, with a post 6/1 release, you have to remember we won't be able to spend that money until June, so it's really more for resigning players than it is for bringing in free agents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Standig 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 We absolutely need new blood at LG and RT. I think Cosmi can be RG. C is a toss up, really gonna depend on Roullier's health but at the least we should draft a C in the mid rounds to have a young talent ready just in case(although Larsen isn't bad in that role either but he's also injury prone). I'm not gonna bank on Paul just becoming a starter at G after just one game of experience. I'm okay with him being a primary backup though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Kurd Cudins said: Don't know where those Roullier numbers are coming from, but I think you guys are misreading the chart. We save $4.77M with a pre 6/1 release and $8.82M with a post 6/1 release. However, with a post 6/1 release, you have to remember we won't be able to spend that money until June, so it's really more for resigning players than it is for bringing in free agents. Hmm. Where are you getting your numbers? On Over the Cap, it now says 8.37 savings for post 6/1 cut. I swear the same source had 10.3 when I made my post last week. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Can’t imagine C is an option in FA (except for returning Larsen and/or Schweitzer), so I’m assuming one of our first 3 picks goes that direction. My bet is either the 2nd, or a smaller chance of trading back in the 1st. If they both keep Roullier, and re-sign Larsen or Schweitzer to back him up, maybe we look to the middle rounds for a C. Seems like a better chance we go after a RT in FA, though I tend to doubt we are able to land a capable starter there. Maybe a guy to compete with Lucas is more doable/likely. Still think tackle is our first pick though. I do like that Cosmi offers some insurance as an emergency 4th string tackle. Bringing back Schweitzer also bolsters the G/C depth - would be nice to have guys (like Paul, a rookie C) that can compete to push him down the roster a bit… ie not relying on him being the only real answer at both spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: Hmm. Where are you getting your numbers? On Over the Cap, it now says 8.37 savings for post 6/1 cut. I swear the same source had 10.3 when I made my post last week. 🤷♂️ It did. That’s what I saw on Overthecap last week as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 There are a lot of teams that over spent on quarterback and had to under spend on the offensive line. It seems like we spent more money on defensive line this year. We really need to improve a lot next year so our quarterbacks have more than two seconds to throw. One team in the playoffs this past weekend started two rookie offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 As soon as they can dump Wentz,, they need to invest heavily in that OL. Get a quality Center if possible because none of the guys they have can stay healthy. LT has been a problem since they traded Trent to SF and Leno has been up and down. Draft guys or get quality FAs. No more former Panthers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 1/16/2023 at 9:47 AM, Ball Security said: Hmm. Where are you getting your numbers? On Over the Cap, it now says 8.37 savings for post 6/1 cut. I swear the same source had 10.3 when I made my post last week. 🤷♂️ On 1/16/2023 at 11:27 AM, MartinC said: It did. That’s what I saw on Overthecap last week as well. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-commanders/chase-roullier-21941/ Clearly, you're both insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Kurd Cudins said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-commanders/chase-roullier-21941/ Clearly, you're both insane. I am going to be REALLY generous and assume you said the above tounge in cheek. You did - right? Another possibility is they adjusted their numbers after we both saw what we DID see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Kurd Cudins said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-commanders/chase-roullier-21941/ Clearly, you're both insane. Spotrac is the Kirk Cousins of salary cap information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, MartinC said: I am going to be REALLY generous and assume you said the above tounge in cheek. You did - right? Another possibility is they adjusted their numbers after we both saw what we DID see. There was supposed to be a smile emoji at the end but for some reason when i click on the emoji tab a bunch of blue question mark boxes show up. I am genuinely concerned that being a mod here is breaking your spirit if you thought I was being serious. That being said, I propose a theory, that among infinite possibilities, one exists a world where you are both insane AND they adjusted their numbers. 44 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Spotrac is the Kirk Cousins of salary cap information. Spotrac and Overthecap are owned by the same company and use the same source data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Kurd Cudins said: Spotrac and Overthecap are owned by the same company and use the same source data. I did not know that lol And here I have been pitting them against each other in my head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, Kurd Cudins said: There was supposed to be a smile emoji at the end but for some reason when i click on the emoji tab a bunch of blue question mark boxes show up. I am genuinely concerned that being a mod here is breaking your spirit if you thought I was being serious. That being said, I propose a theory, that among infinite possibilities, one exists a world where you are both insane AND they adjusted their numbers. Spotrac and Overthecap are owned by the same company and use the same source data. Having an ‘interesting’ day and I caught your post at the wrong point - sense of humour failure 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/13/2023 at 10:19 PM, Koolblue13 said: Meant Roullier and Larson. They are no better then what we finished this year with. Do you really want them blocking for Howell? Roullier never was top 5 and never worth 12.4 million a year. Just like Scarleth another they helped a lot of QB's end there career here average at best pass blockers. He would be my first cut right after Wentz, L.Thomas, C.Samuel. A.Norwell. I would pay the players who have earned it on the Defense first. You could save 45mil before june1 cuts. Will not take much or already on the team to Replace the dead weight of the team. Fixing the OL needs to happen and that means change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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