Skinsinparadise Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, actorguy1 said: Certainly draft BPA but most teams draft boards will be tiered. If a certain tier happens to have players that also fill a need as well then they will be Weighted towards those players. Agree, but that has been covered in these discussions. This team I believe has been the worst in the NFL for the last 20 plus years as to having first team All Pro players. Coincidence? This is the team that drafted Carlos Rogers because we needed a corner. Let Dallas take Demarcus Ware because heck we already have Andre Carter and Philip Daniels. As Cerrato said recently they didn't take Jamaal Charles because heck they had Clinton Portis and Zorn needed another Wr. I like Jamin Davis more than most. But they seemed determined to take a LB and IMO there were better players available at their spot like Darrisaw. Why take a Qb when we have Haskins? Probably the ultimate example is Shanny taking Kirk in the 4th after taking RG3, he explained Kirk was too high on the board in the 4th to ignore. Some thought it was dumb at the time, looks brilliant in retrospect. On and on and on. I'd like that cycle to stop. It's not a binary argument where its one extreme versus another. It's not strict BPA -- per your point you weight other variables. But the mindset of taking the best players is a good mindset to have. As Logan Paulsen likes to say even if you are focused on needs -- needs can change in a hurry -- injuries, guys leave, etc. Edited April 27 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 32 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: St. Juste now lives in the "when healthy" classification. Beyond Fuller, there is a reason why it's labeled as on of the weakest position groups here. I’m in the camp that thinks our corners generally suck. I want 2 in this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Forbes at #16 would remind me very much of Jamin Davis at #19. I really liked Davis. I was cool drafting him in the late 1st if we traded back. Or coming up in R2 to get him. I was shocked we took him at #19, I have liked Forbes throughout the process. But I always envisioned him as an option at #47. So yes, I will talk myself into liking him after the draft, because I like him now. But I would much rather trade down and grab him later. Or just pass on him for an OT. I just hope it is not Forbes at #16 tonight or I will be pretty pretty disappointed and not enjoy sleeping on that pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 I keep seeing Bijan or Gibbs to Philly....either would suck If we aren't rocking one of them, which I don't expect, I wouldn't mind seeing the Bills finally have a top back....then slaughter NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Gimmie a player on O. That's where we need the most help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, JamesMadisonSkins said: Forbes at #16 would remind me very much of Jamin Davis at #19. I really liked Davis. I was cool drafting him in the late 1st if we traded back. Or coming up in R2 to get him. I was shocked we took him at #19, I have liked Forbes throughout the process. But I always envisioned him as an option at #47. So yes, I will talk myself into liking him after the draft, because I like him now. But I would much rather trade down and grab him later. Or just pass on him for an OT. I just hope it is not Forbes at #16 tonight or I will be pretty pretty disappointed and not enjoy sleeping on that pick. From memory Davis had one year of production and was definitely more of a raw prospect. Forbes may be like a stick man but he’s got 3 years of numbers I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Is Forbes the 2023 version of Fred Smoot? Smoot thinks so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 My first reaction if we took Forbes over Skoronski or Wright would be blind rage. I would probably talk myself into it, like so: If this team evaluates Skoronski as an above average guard, with no chance at RT or LT, and is turned off by Wright on character/maturity questions they may not like them despite the tape. If they genuinely evaluate Forbes as a ball hawk corner, the next Asante Samuel or DHall, and a guy that will score on defense and set up the offense with field position with his vision after interceptions for big returns (Ed Reed) why wouldn’t you take that at 16? But it would be a big risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Another trade scenario, second round, we drop from 47, KC give us 63 plus a 3rd and 5th. I could see a variable on that. No chance KC keep all those picks IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 10 minutes ago, Wyndorf25 said: Smoot thinks so. Well then I hope we don't get a stadium at the Harbor. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Is Forbes the 2023 version of Fred Smoot? Love boat reboot 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said: Well then I hope we don't get a stadium at the Harbor. Took me a few seconds but then I remembered his exploits in Minny. Edited April 27 by Rex Tomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just because I found it interesting, take a look at the size difference between Forbes and Witherspoon. Forbes is slender, but look at his huge wingspan, arm length, height, etc. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more made about Witherspoon’s small frame and size. He plays like a freaking animal and I love it but at that size I would be worried more about him than Forbes. I like them both, just interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rex Tomb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, FrFan said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 FYI Baltimore just re-signed Lamar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Just now, CapsSkins said: FYI Baltimore just re-signed Lamar Terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Rex Tomb said: Terms? Lamar Jackson signed a 5 year, $260,000,000 contract with the Baltimore Ravens, including $185,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $52,000,000. In 2023, Jackson will earn a base salary of $32,416,000, while carrying a cap hit of $32,416,000. According to Spotrac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Thank god. Sick of the Lamar talk 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 11 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: FYI Baltimore just re-signed Lamar They always wanted him. They just didn't want to give him a fully G deal. Wonder how this effects the Ravens draft. Do you get him a weapon to justify the deal, or is he "appeased" and you can look in other directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Wow… Baltimore overpaid I think. No one was going to sign Lamar or trade for him. They gave him Mahomes money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, Rex Tomb said: Wow… Baltimore overpaid I think. No one was going to sign Lamar or trade for him. They gave him Mahomes money. I seriously doubt his next 5 years are as good as his previous time. Older, injured, etc. I think they will be disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rex Tomb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, seantaylor=god said: I seriously doubt his next 5 years are as good as his previous time. Older, injured, etc. I think they will be disappointed. For an AAV of 52 million. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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