DazedSkinsfan Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 If we somehow managed to be in position to draft Bryce Young, the only thing that worries me is it's the current staff drafting him and Turner is his offensive coordinator. Most people worry about his size, I worry about Scott Turner ruining him after one season 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I never watched college football but recently started dating a girl who went to FSU so now I watch their games. I wouldn't mind using a day 3 pick on Jordan Travis. Kid's a playmaker, good dual threat, and has a live arm. Could be a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stone Cold Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Hooker looked like an nfl qb today. I wonder if he’s at his ceiling tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berggy9598 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I’d dabble in the hallucinogens that the analysts who ranked Levis ahead of Hooker are consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Can we tank all this year and next for Caleb Williams? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Dalton Kincaid has been dominant tonight. This is going to be a good tight end year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Going Commando Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Cameron Rising has some real Gardner Minshew energy. Put him as second team All-Decade Moxie QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 12 hours ago, clskinsfan said: Exactly the same way I felt about Chase in all honesty. Young was incredibly productive with 16.5 sacks and was very good against the run (he was about 20 pounds heavier than Will Anderson). Anderson has 5 sacks in 7 games this year meaning he is on pace for 9 or 10 sacks and he is not as good against the run. I think there is a much better argument that Will Anderson was a bit overhyped than Young. That said, Anderson is still having a good year and deserves to be a high draft pick. But he still might have been a bit overhyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Anderson was absolutely dominant last year. More dominant than Chase was and Chase was an unstoppable game wrecker. He earned his hype. Something is clearly wrong with Anderson this season. Not only is he not killing people like he did last year, he's not even playing hard any more. When that happens with a great player like him, it is a telltale sign of an injury or an off field issue. That would concern me a lot more than questions about his ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 21 hours ago, Zim489 said: Can we tank all this year and next for Caleb Williams? This is the solution. Trade back to the teens this coming draft and take someone like Mike Mayer or a CB since there will be a run of QBs going early, then accept another year of suckitude to have two shots at Caleb in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Going Commando said: Anderson was absolutely dominant last year. More dominant than Chase was and Chase was an unstoppable game wrecker. He earned his hype. Something is clearly wrong with Anderson this season. Not only is he not killing people like he did last year, he's not even playing hard any more. When that happens with a great player like him, it is a telltale sign of an injury or an off field issue. That would concern me a lot more than questions about his ability. I’m not sure he was as dominant as you think he was. He had dominant moments, but when I was watching him this offseason I saw a lot of plays off or plays where he was taken out of the play fairly easily. This year we are seeing more of that and less of his dominating plays but to me it’s still on brand for him. He has elite traits so will likely find success at the next level but he looks similar to me this year as he did last year. I agree with you on Gibbs. He, Tucker and Robinson are in a different world as backs in this class. RE: Bryce Young. I think I’m fully committed to him being QB1. I AM worried about his durability. But his playmaking ability is off the charts. CJ Stroud, something feels off when I watch him. And no, that’s not a high end critique of his abilities. I’ll deep dive on him this offseason but right now when I watch him something just feels off with him. Levis… still not sold on him. Young is the guy. He’s special. He makes things happen from no where. Everyone else is “just” a good QB prospect. Young is a potential franchise maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 hours ago, KDawg said: Young is the guy. He’s special. He makes things happen from no where. Everyone else is “just” a good QB prospect. Young is a potential franchise maker. Byrce Young is my number 1, but I also pretty high on CJ Stroud who my clear 2. To me Stroud throws with way more anticipation than Justin Fields. I eventually bought into the Fields hype and had him as my number 3 QB in 2021 behind Lawrence and Wilson, but I was slow to go ovewr to the Fields camp because I thought he held onto the ball too long and was somewhat reliant on the talent around him with the acknowledgement that his physical tools were great. With Stroud, I feel like he gets rid of the ball on time and throws with anticipation. He also has close to idea size. He may not be quite the playmaker Young is and that is why I have Young number 1, but to me Stroud is a close #2. Levis is decent QB because of his traits, but its also somewhat risky to draft a QB real high just based on traits. Levis is just a good college QB. Assuming Levis is a top 5 draft pick the opportunity cost is really high. If you could grab a player like Levis later in the first round it would be a good pick (because the opporunity cost is quite a bit low picking him there vs. #4 overall), but we all know he is not going to be available at like pick 22, so some team will take him early and either set their franchise up for the next decade or set their rebuild back 3 or 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 13 hours ago, KDawg said: I’m not sure he was as dominant as you think he was. He had dominant moments, but when I was watching him this offseason I saw a lot of plays off or plays where he was taken out of the play fairly easily. This year we are seeing more of that and less of his dominating plays but to me it’s still on brand for him. He has elite traits so will likely find success at the next level but he looks similar to me this year as he did last year. Not to me. I think he looks hesitant and a lot more passive whereas last year he was ferocious and ultra productive. Last season he led the country in sacks, TFLs, and pressures. He had 80 pressures and 31 TFLs. For context that's even more TFLs than Aaron Donald had his senior year when he had 28, and I did not expect to see that season get topped for a long time. He averaged over 5 pressures a game, which is basically having a great game as a pass rusher every week. We're probably not going to see a more individually dominant and productive season from a DL/Edge than that for a while. To me he hasn't been that guy this season. But it's also worth pointing out that he's still in the top ten Nationally for TFLs this season, and top 20 for sacks. A down year for him is still a productive season for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-mock-draft-houston-texans-cj-stroud-chicago-bears-bryce-young 1. HOUSTON TEXANS: QB C.J. STROUD, OHIO STATE The track record of Ohio State quarterbacks in the NFL is a talking point, but it doesn’t have any bearing on Stroud’s success at the next level. He plays the position differently than Dwayne Haskins or Justin Fields ever did. His average time to throw of 2.69 seconds through Week 5 of the college football season is nearly a half second faster than Fields' average at Ohio State. Stroud fits the bill of an NFL pocket passer. 2. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: EDGE WILL ANDERSON, ALABAMA Anderson is the safest pick in the draft. He may not qualify as a generational prospect, but he boasts an elite all-around physical skill set. Anderson’s 97 pressures since the start of 2021 are the most in college football. 3. NEW YORK JETS: DI JALEN CARTER, GEORGIA On last year’s stacked Georgia line that included now-NFL players Jordan Davis, Travon Walker and Devonte Wyatt, it was Carter who earned the highest pass-rushing grade … as a true sophomore. He already has seven pressures on only 47 pass-rushing snaps this season, although he'll likely miss time with an MCL injury. 4. CHICAGO BEARS: QB BRYCE YOUNG, ALABAMA At 6-foot and 194 pounds, Young won’t tick all the boxes physically. When he steps on the field, though, he ticks boxes left and right. He’s already earned a 91.3 overall grade this season without the two top-50 draft picks he lost at receiver from last season. 5. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS: QB WILL LEVIS, KENTUCKY Hailing from a pro-style offense with all the physical tools you could want at the position, Levis is an evaluator's dream. It's worrisome that he has more turnover-worthy plays (six) than big-time throws (three) this season, but a prospective team is likely banking on what he could become. He could even learn for a year behind Carson Wentz if the Commanders choose to bring the veteran back (what not to do, of course). 6. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: DI BRYAN BRESEE, CLEMSON Bresee is a 6-foot-5, 300-pound physical freak built to play on the Steelers' defensive line. He has 11 pressures in three games this season, and the arrow only continues to point up for the former No. 1 overall recruit. Put him next to Cameron Heyward and watch quarterbacks crumble. 7. CAROLINA PANTHERS: EDGE MYLES MURPHY, CLEMSON Murphy’s floor is probably still a top-10 pick with just how absurdly powerful he is for a defensive end. At 6-foot-5 and 275 pounds, he isn’t getting moved off the ball one-on-one. A slow start to the season for Murphy has given way to nine pressures the past two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What is everyone's take on Jaren Hall? I haven't seem him play at all but all the scouting reports comp him to Russell Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, method man said: What is everyone's take on Jaren Hall? I haven't seem him play at all but all the scouting reports comp him to Russell Wilson. Only seen highlights of him, so I am not that familiar with him. Putting up good stats against pretty good competition. Has a PFF grade around 80 which isn't amazing. PFF doesn't have him on their big board at this point (but I think their big board is only at like 100 players now--by draft day they have it up to 300 players) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/16/2022 at 8:37 AM, philibusters said: Young was incredibly productive with 16.5 sacks and was very good against the run (he was about 20 pounds heavier than Will Anderson). Anderson has 5 sacks in 7 games this year meaning he is on pace for 9 or 10 sacks and he is not as good against the run. I think there is a much better argument that Will Anderson was a bit overhyped than Young. That said, Anderson is still having a good year and deserves to be a high draft pick. But he still might have been a bit overhyped. Anderson had 17.5 last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 DJU benched at clemson. One of the bigger busts in the last 10 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Grayson McCall has been my under the radar QB prospect. He's been on my radar since he outgunned Zach Wilson a few years ago. He's never gotten much attention so maybe there's something I haven't noticed yet, but he has impressed me in the limited time I've watched him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, IrepDC said: Grayson McCall has been my under the radar QB prospect. He's been on my radar since he outgunned Zach Wilson a few years ago. He's never gotten much attention so maybe there's something I haven't noticed yet, but he has impressed me in the limited time I've watched him so far. Because he has essentially zero chance of ever being elite. Hes a back up in the league. No one is drafting QBs just to be middling of the pack 15th-18th type of guys and thats Graysons ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frontline205 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I’m so good with this winning streak the commanders are on. Because the current pirze is in 2024…. Caleb Williams, trade this pick for trade up ammunition in 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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