Franklin60 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 5:24 PM, philibusters said: I think Miami traded last year's 12th overall pick plus a first rounder this year to move up to 6 last year to draft Jaylen Waddle. It seemed like a bad move at the time. This is true, but it suggests (maybe you didn't mean it that way) that they made the trade during the draft. The trade actually happened on March 26th, about a month before the draft. It was a two-tiered process for the Dolphins, who owned the third pick in the draft, courtesy of the Houston Texans. The Eagles were at six. The 49ers were at twelve. The Dolphins had already committed to Tua and weren't interested in picking a quarterback with the third pick. The 49ers wanted that pick, obviously for Trey Lance. The Dolphins didn't want to move all the way to twelve, so they worked a deal with the Eagles with the Eagles giving up the sixth pick. In that deal, the Eagles got the twelfth pick and the Dolphins first round pick next year. (A swap of fourth and fifth round picks was also included.) The 49ers traded that twelfth pick originally, along with first round picks in '22 and '23, to Miami for the third overall pick. A third rounder was also included. So basically the Dolphins moved from three to six, and got two extra first round picks from the 49ers while giving up their own first round pick next year to the Eagles. The Eagles moved from six to twelve and picked up Miami's first round pick next year. The 49ers moved from twelve to three and gave up first round picks in both '22 and '23. Ultimately the Dolphins got an extra first round pick in the deals. This was also true for the Eagles. The 49ers on the other hand surrendered two future first round picks. As an Eagles fan, I'm happy (at the moment anyway) that the first round pick they acquired from Miami was theirs rather than the 49ers. It seems like the Niners might be decent this year while the Dolphins won't be. But there's still a lot of season to be played so I can't get too carried away with excitement. Miami's taking Jaylen Waddle was kind of a surprise when it happened but it's not like they traded up *during* the draft to take him. And incidentally, the Eagles subsequently moved up from twelve to ten in a trade with the Cowboys to snag DeVonta Smith from the Giants at the cost of a third round pick. That move set in motion the Giants trade-down with the Bears which netted them Chicago's first round pick next year. So as Washington fans, you guys need to be rooting for the Dolphins and Bears to not be terrible this year so that your division rivals don't get especially high extra first round picks. As an Eagles fan, I'm also rooting for the Bears to do well but for the Dolphins to be bad and for the Colts to be bad if and only if Carson Wentz plays 75% of their snaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 Moving up the draft after today's lose, and now with #9 pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 We'll be in the top 5 after the next 6 weeks. Question is if we win some of the divisional games at the end of the season. Last game of the season against NY definitely going to have huge draft implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Honestly? I'm shocked there are 8 teams playing worse than WFT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Redd said: Honestly? I'm shocked there are 8 teams playing worse than WFT. Not by that much though. Some of these teams below could win some and we can be better off losing all next 11 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 There's still 8 teams technically doing worse than this franchise. That's surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Redd said: Honestly? I'm shocked there are 8 teams playing worse than WFT. There are some REALLY bad teams this year. I mean our division alone has two other awful teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, Warhead36 said: There are some REALLY bad teams this year. I mean our division alone has two other awful teams. I'm just shocked. WFT can't buy a stop on third down. Got a noodle arm qb that struggles throwing anything deep. You're telling me there are 8 other teams that are worse than that. I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Today I find myself deflated and wonder if it matters whether it's 9th or 2nd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I just checked Tankathon and they switched Miami to #2. Which means as of now the Eagles get picks #2,7,and 8. 😣 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Give me a top 5 pick so we can draft Kyle Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolves92 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Should have moved up for mac jones. Are there any promising qb prospects this year? If not rivera likely gone in a couple years. I personally dont like his coaching style as well as our coordinators for todays nfl. With the **** show this franchise is on/off the field, he prolly will welcome getting fired as will the fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757SeanTaylor21 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 We're mooooooving on up... Toooooooo the top 9 By next week we will prolly be top fiiiive Cause weeeeerree mooooving on uppp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2-15 or bust 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Damn the Eagles are loaded this years draft. We’re going to suck forever, we just had a #2 overall pick and really didn’t change anything. We have to lure Wilson or Rodgers to a 300 million deal, maybe they’ll want to play for us since we’ll have a new name 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 hours ago, BleedBNG said: I just checked Tankathon and they switched Miami to #2. Which means as of now the Eagles get picks #2,7,and 8. 😣 Would find it fun for the Eagles to suck enough and have Indy and Miami tank enough, so the Eagles ends up with 1,2,3! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 14 hours ago, BleedBNG said: I just checked Tankathon and they switched Miami to #2. Which means as of now the Eagles get picks #2,7,and 8. 😣 Makes you want to puke doesn’t it. They may well pass those across to the Texans before the draft rolls around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, max21 said: Damn the Eagles are loaded this years draft. We’re going to suck forever, we just had a #2 overall pick and really didn’t change anything. We have to lure Wilson or Rodgers to a 300 million deal, maybe they’ll want to play for us since we’ll have a new name 😄 We should rename the team after one of them to attract one them. The Washington Rodgering? ...maybe a bit too on the nose? Edited October 18, 2021 by Jabbyrwock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Wildbunny said: Would find it fun for the Eagles to suck enough and have Indy and Miami tank enough, so the Eagles ends up with 1,2,3! Impossible. We’ll be in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I am so jealous of the eagles draft. I really hope they trade with Houston. QBs always rise in the draft. Itll be interesting to see how they start to line up. There seems to be a lot of other top end positions teams would need to over look to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I just REALLY hope that Hurts plays well enough that the Eagles don't feel the need to draft a new QB. That way, they'll swallow up 3 of the top 10 picks on non-QBs. Jax and the Jets obviously aren't going to draft QBs and will probably have top 5 picks. Good chance Detroit goes QB, but not 100%...Goff takes up a lot of cap and they probably can't realistically cut him until after 2022 because the dead cap hit before then will be $30+ million. I suppose they could take a QB and either have him sit and learn for a year or sit Goff and just deal with having a $10+ million backup (which we did too). Probably depends on how Goff plays and if they think he could continue to be a viable starter. Maybe they'll take a project guy in the 2nd or something. Giants I think will take a QB unless Gettleman is stubborn and decides to double down and refuse to believe that his decision to pick Daniel Jones was a mistake. After this season they'll have to make the decision on whether to pick up his 5th year option or not. Might also depend on the QB talent available in the draft and who they like. I could see this going either way. Houston is a wild card because we have no clue what will happen with the Watson situation. If Watson doesn't get a long suspension and they also don't trade him then zero chance they go QB. But what if Watson says he'll refuse to play unless he's traded? They could stand firm and try to find ways to penalize him, or give in and trade him for a haul of picks, take a QB, then start a rebuild. So this is a TBD. Atlanta: good chance they go QB if a guy they like is there, but they have a ton of money in Ryan and can't cut him until after 2022 without incurring a $40.5 million dead cap hit. They could go QB with upside and let him sit for a year and learn. So there are a lot of "TBDs" there, but it could end up that very few other teams in the top 10 pick QBs. That means either one we want would fall to us, or some of these top 10 pick teams would be very willing to hear good trade down offers to try and stack up their rosters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Pretty much every team picking at the top outside of the Jags will go QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, KDawg said: Impossible. We’ll be in there somewhere. Probably not, after Snyder trades our #1 to the Eagles for Donovan McHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 21 hours ago, Redd said: Honestly? I'm shocked there are 8 teams playing worse than WFT. I would say Detroit, Houston, and the Jets are emphatically worse than us. The Giants/Philthy/Jax will probably get a few W's, and are probably on par with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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