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13 minutes ago, max21 said:

I’d rather spend my money to go to Caps games, I haven’t been to FedEx since I went to an Eagles game in 2018 it was literally all Eagles fans there. I will say I always thought FedEx field has a pretty solid club level. 

 

I also went to the Eagles game that closed out the 2018 season.  I've never been more embarrassed as a Washington fan in my whole life as I was that night.  The stadium was overrun.   

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Last game I went to was pre-RG3, so it's been a decade now for me.

 

And with the direction the team is going I doubt it will change any time soon.

 

I now have a 10 foot screen in my basement and host games here.  It's much more fun here than at the stadium to watch them lose.

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Parking pass was 80 ****ing dollars including fees. That’s ridiculous. The stadium sucks and so does the team do nothing will change in terms of attendance. 
 

I HATE seeing it overrun with rival fans. Hate it. But i hate going to the games, getting your ass kicked, and having said rival fans make fun of you on the way out even more. I thought about going Thursday but after going yesterday, it’s just not worth the hassle. They’ll probably lose again. 

 

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6 hours ago, just654 said:

For the people that want a new stadium, which I do to a point. Dont cut off your nose spite your face. I was at a Fan Focus group in the off season for a new stadium. A new stadium is going to be a **** show. The 3rd party group Snyder has hired to research the stadium is going to recommended PSLs for every seat. With the cheapest being nose bleeds being about $1-2K per seat going up to $50+K per seat. They want to turn the between the 40s 100 level into VIP Seats and party/restaurant decks.     

Dan may want to do that but he doesn’t have the fan base to fund the stadium thru psls.

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@BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93

re: that tweet

 

i don’t think I have watched a full game since I gave up my season tickets. I was actually tuned to the game when it started yesterday. I was initially interested. 
 

didn’t take long to flip to the redzone

 

After dropping my tickets i legitimately cannot justify watching a 1pm game instead of the redzone.  Why watch bad football when you can watch all of the good football…

 

At some point you realize you can still be that die hard fan you’ve always been, all that’s still there, you just realize your time is of enough value that the organization needs to clean its **** up before they get anymore of yours. 
 

Now maybe they turn it around. It’s one game. I’m not going to declare the season over after one game. 
 

but every Sunday I’ll start on redzone. I figure if they’re doing well, I’ll see them often, and that’s the queue to watch the game. 
 

(I flipped back when fitz went down cause I like heineke)

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1 hour ago, Painkiller said:

I don't blame Dan Snyder for the current stadium's faults, but I do expect that they will learn from them for the next one.

Its true that winning games serves to entice people to come to the stadium. I think attendance at RFK probably wasn't the greatest late in the season during 1993-1995 when the team was out of the hunt.

 

And its also true that FedEx was placed in a crappy location with nothing around it and was put up too fast in a race against time so JKC could experience it before he died (he didn't get to).

 

And yes, there were issues with the new place, like traffic (this was before the new WW Bridge), higher ticket prices, and the size (suite and club levels pushed the upper deck much further from the field than RFK).  But it seemed like the team tried to at least bring some of the RFK low-key atmospherics, like retaining Phil Hochberg as the PA guy and including the kids entertainment area outside of the stadium. As well as providing shuttles that would take people to the closest Metro stations at the time.

 

Snyder comes in and after not doing a lot in 1999, started to revamp the place in 2000 with adding more seats, getting rid of Hochberg for a carnival barker PA guy, wanting loud music, getting rid of the kids area.  Jacked up parking prices from $10 to $25, and started really increasing the price of club seats. Prohibiting people from parking and walking from Landover Mall, and discontinuing the Metro shuttles. Then in 2004 added even more seats, including the dream seats near the future, which really degraded the game experience for 100 level patrons, IMO.

 

I think it'll always be debatable as to how the team's performance would've been different under different ownership, but you would think JKC Jr wouldn't have tried to monetize everything to the extent Snyder did. At the time, his defenders cited that the higher prices were necessary to keep the team competitive in relation to the rest of the league. But with the TV contracts being what they are, you have to wonder if the owners really care about gate revenue anymore.

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1 hour ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said:

Parking pass was 80 ****ing dollars including fees. That’s ridiculous. The stadium sucks and so does the team do nothing will change in terms of attendance. 
 

I HATE seeing it overrun with rival fans. Hate it. But i hate going to the games, getting your ass kicked, and having said rival fans make fun of you on the way out even more. I thought about going Thursday but after going yesterday, it’s just not worth the hassle. They’ll probably lose again. 

 

 

Everything taken in totality over the last 20 years, that now includes a name change that most of the fanbase didn't want, and it is not too hard to see how this can happen.  I know this isn't the brand thread, but that is why it's so important to get that right.  Some fans are gone and they are never coming back over the name change in combination with years of suck.  We are also just starting to come out of a pandemic, and the residual effects of that which is not going to help the situation either.  As for many of the long-time fans of the team, I would imagine for many there is very little emotional connection left, because they don't really recognize what they are seeing on the field.  

 

They need to do something with the branding that will engage the current fans that remain and bring new people into the fold.  Most importantly, they need to win more.

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Also, I mean if you didn’t really pay attention, they paid to deconstruct the stadium. 
 

I wish we could see the math on snyder shell ticket reseller companies. I’d like to know how that netted out. 
 

I don’t know how that’s anything other than a giant loser unless you could somehow get away with not paying full price. There’s a revenue sharing agreement …

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1 hour ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said:

Parking pass was 80 ****ing dollars including fees. That’s ridiculous. The stadium sucks and so does the team do nothing will change in terms of attendance. 
 

I HATE seeing it overrun with rival fans. Hate it. But i hate going to the games, getting your ass kicked, and having said rival fans make fun of you on the way out even more. I thought about going Thursday but after going yesterday, it’s just not worth the hassle. They’ll probably lose again. 

 

 
$80 to park???  I hope Dan doesn’t get a nickel for his stadium.  It would be better if he just moves the team and fleeces some other town.

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15 minutes ago, heyholetsgogrant said:

 
$80 to park???  I hope Dan doesn’t get a nickel for his stadium.  It would be better if he just moves the team and fleeces some other town.

I'm not sure what STH pay for the game parking passes these days.  The last time I paid attention, it was $50 per game.  Ticketmaster has parking available for Thursday's game for $60 ($73 with fees) and the cheapest currently on Stubhub is $90 ($113 with fees). Either way, its ridiculous.

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Nobody should be surprised. I know that boycotting the team due to Snyder issues has been discussed here for the last several years. People saying we should stay away until this guy goes, or that guys leaves, etc. Well, it seems like all that talk is turning into action. A lot of people also felt embarrassed to be fans after all the things we found out were going on in the organization behind the scenes. And of course, the name change that most fans knew was inevitable but still didn't want to happen. A poor on field product, played in a dumpster of a stadium, and run by a bunch of stooges isn't a recipe for success. (Actually thinking of making that last sentence part of my profile...)

 

The only thing I seeing helping the situation is if we finally land a true franchise QB. A guy like Favre, P. Manning, Tom Brady, etc. who plays here at a hall of fame, record breaking level for a decade or more, with consistent double digit winning seasons and playoff success. That's what will get new generations to pick them as their team, and will reignite the passion for the team many of us old school fans have sadly lost.      

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One of the most memorable experiences I had at that stadium was close to 20 years ago. I can't even remember what year, but it was around the last game of the season, and we sucked, and the Giants destroyed us, with Tiki Barber running for around 200 yards. It was about as depressed as I'd ever been as a fan ... up until that point, lol. Anyway, as we made the walk of shame in the dark down from the top of the stadium, this giant, drunk, obese female Giants fan kept yelling, "Waa- waaa Redskins! (Clap. Clap. Clap-clap-clap.) Maybe next year! (Clap. Clap. Clap-clap-clap.)" 


She did this from the top of the stadium until we got to the bottom, as loud as her fat voice could scream it. It was just too much to take, and all the rage I had from that awful season just boiled over. When we got to the bottom, I finally turned around, caught her eye, and yelled, "DRUN-KEN FAT ASS (Clap. Clap. Clap-clap-clap)." At that moment, I knew I'd made a mistake as the fire in her drunken eyes erupted and she charged me like a bull elephant. I regretted my decision at that moment, the fact that my rage got the better of me. She got up in my face, "What did you say? What did you say to me?" "You heard it," I said. I looked around, and the "friends" I was with at the time had vanished as some giant dude, who I think was her brother, approached as well. I think I looked like a maniac, as I was unshaven, hat pulled over my face, drained by rage. He could've crushed me like a gnat, but, thankfully, he just grabbed her and pulled her away. As they left, I heard her cry, "He called me FATTTTTT!" 

 

Was I proud of that moment? No. But sometimes, whenever we play the Giants, I think of that girl, wondering where she is now and what is in the trough her face is undoubtedly buried in. 

 

I hate the Giants. 

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On 9/13/2021 at 6:41 AM, Warhead36 said:

The team hasn't been great and isn't exciting to watch either but the stadium is just absolute garbage. I mean you literally have crap raining on the fans. Its an embarrassment.

 

Well, the pipe that burst was actually from collected rain water, and not sewage.

 

As far as the crap smell, well....that's been emanating directly from the field for the past 30 years.

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All that other stuff is static noise.  The real problem is WFT isn't a winning franchise since Gibbs first run.  There's only so much losing a fan base can take until it just spends its money elsewhere.  

 

I love this team but why should I spend close to $200 for nosebleed seats and this team is lucky to even make wildcard every 3-4 years.

 

A better stadium or a consistent, deep playoff team?  I'm taking the playoff team knowing taxpayers will be more willing to fund a new stadium when their home team has a good chance to play championship games year in and year out.

 

Nope, I'll spend my money watching the Capitals and Nationals play.  Easier and cheaper to get to the stadium and they're fun to watch.

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I was still going to games even during losing seasons and watching when I wasn’t there. 
 

The name change really did me in…I know I’m in the minority but by changing the name this team lost the last thing they still had that made it great. Even if the team sucked we still had the name Redskins and the history associated, once that was gone to me it was all gone.

 

once that history is gone you see how much the drive sucks to the stadium, how much the stadium sucks, and everything in between…I can have a better Sunday watching my multiple tv’s eating better food, drinking better beer, no bathroom lines or dirty bathrooms, and no jack ass other fans (Washington or otherwise) 

 

I honestly don’t know if anything could get me back to fedex my buddy offered me two front row end zone seats with parking pass for $200 and I told him no thanks he literally can’t sell them! No one wants them! Even winning might not get me back for whatever we call this team moving forward. I still watch because I always have in my 40 years on the planet rooted for Washington teams (the second DC got a baseball team I switched to the Nats) but at this point it would probably take a new stadium and 2 Super Bowls to get me back maybe. 

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My wife almost bought me tickets for my birthday two years ago but I went on and on about how horrible the game-day experience was so she decided not to get my whiney ass tickets. If they move the stadium to a place that doesn't suck donkey balls, doesn't cost me tax money and has a good/safe atmosphere, I would consider returning. Doesn't sound like that is happening until the FedEx lease is up though. I have seen the team play multiple times in other cities though including NY, Seattle and Chicago. Qwest and Soldier field are great. The old Meadowlands statium was not much better than Fedex. I've also been to Heinz field, another great fan experience with a casino in walking distance.

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