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1 hour ago, visionary said:

 

 

Kinda disappointed.  

 

I've always recognized the Israeli annexation of Jerusalem as a fait accompli.  But thought we should have used recognition of that fact as leverage to get them to give ground somewhere else.  

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2 hours ago, Larry said:

 

Kinda disappointed.  

 

I've always recognized the Israeli annexation of Jerusalem as a fait accompli.  But thought we should have used recognition of that fact as leverage to get them to give ground somewhere else.  

I feel like the horse is out of the barn at this point.  From what little I know, it’s a shame to lose the leverage.  
 

Just heard Pelosi say that desire for infrastructure is bipartisan... but how have we not seen anything done here?  You’d think at least a targeted bill could have been agreed to. 

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I hold firm to my believe that Joe will have a tough time getting any of his agenda passed.  The further towards Bernie/AOC side he goes; the moderate Dems may not go along with it.  The AOC/Bernie wing will be pushing Joe to come towards them and may not support.  The narrow majority in the House will make it tough; even more so since 3 Dem congressmen are joining Biden's cabinet.  Don't know how long it will take to replace them.  I think the real difficultly will lie in the Senate.  I don't see Joe Manchin going along with everything Joe wants to do.  Then you got the mischief that the GOP will cause.    With such narrow majorities; I can see the GOP try to get people to flip.

 

So, whatever Joe wants to do; he needs to try to do it early.    

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Reaching across the aisle will always be welcomed but the Dems won the White House, retained the house and just took the Senate by winning two seats in Georgia.  I usually don't like the "We have a mandate" language when a new administration waltzes into the chamber, but.....the Dems sort of do.  Also, if they ever plan on actually getting things done, it has to start happening soon as their majority is now officially on the 2022 midterm clock.

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On 1/17/2021 at 7:42 PM, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

Excellent! This is something the Grand Oligarch's Party understands and uses really well. Now, if they can just get with that whole selling policy after the fact part.

 

23 hours ago, visionary said:

 

Dammit! Can't win 'em all I guess. That said, I hope he gives them the iron fist on settlements.

 

52 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

Reaching across the aisle will always be welcomed but the Dems won the White House, retained the house and just took the Senate by winning two seats in Georgia.  I usually don't like the "We have a mandate" language when a new administration waltzes into the chamber, but.....the Dems sort of do.  Also, if they ever plan on actually getting things done, it has to start happening soon as their majority is now officially on the 2022 midterm clock.

I hope this is one of the lessons Biden learned from Obama's experience. He and the Dems have a small window of opportunity. Forget the bipartisan BS and do the damn thing this time. Expecting any cooperation from the Grand Oligarch's Party is a pipe dream. Don't even waste the time, other than doing some window dressing type things to be able to say they tried.

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‘Really quite shocking’: Inside the ugly transition at the Pentagon

 

The Pentagon blocked members of President Joe Biden’s incoming administration from gaining access to critical information about current operations, including the troop drawdown in Afghanistan, upcoming special operations missions in Africa and the Covid-19 vaccine distribution program, according to new details provided by transition and defense officials.

 

The effort to obstruct the Biden team, led by senior White House appointees at the Pentagon, is unprecedented in modern presidential transitions and will hobble the new administration on key national security matters as it takes over positions in the Defense Department on Wednesday, the officials said.

 

Biden openly decried the treatment his aides were receiving at the Pentagon in December, calling it “nothing short, in my view, of irresponsibility” after meetings were canceled ahead of Christmas. He said his people were denied information on the SolarWinds hack, and said his team “needs a clear picture of our force posture around the world and our operations to deter our enemies.”

 

But people involved with the transition, both on the Biden team and the Pentagon side, gave POLITICO a more detailed picture of what was denied, saying briefings on pressing defense matters never happened, were delayed to the last minute, or were controlled by overbearing minders from the Trump administration's side.

 

“Defense has traditionally been a bipartisan business between and among professionals, and this is terrible optics for those who want to copy this pettiness in the future,” said Mackenzie Eaglen, a fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. The effort to block the transition from key national security information is “useless, poor form, and horrible precedent.”

 

This story is based on conversations with 10 Pentagon and Biden officials involved in the transition, most of whom spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations.

 

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7 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

Reaching across the aisle will always be welcomed but the Dems won the White House, retained the house and just took the Senate by winning two seats in Georgia.  I usually don't like the "We have a mandate" language when a new administration waltzes into the chamber, but.....the Dems sort of do.  Also, if they ever plan on actually getting things done, it has to start happening soon as their majority is now officially on the 2022 midterm clock.

In the past I would have argued this is nonsense. There’s no mandate here. 
 

but given the state of things I hope the Dems finally figure out how to wield power. 
 

reaching across the aisle should come after the gop does a public post mortem and cleanses itself. Which I’m assuming will never happen. 
 

The gop have benefited far to long from not playing nice. Time to give it back to them. Time to fix some things. 

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42 minutes ago, tshile said:

In the past I would have argued this is nonsense. There’s no mandate here. 
 

but given the state of things I hope the Dems finally figure out how to wield power. 
 

reaching across the aisle should come after the gop does a public post mortem and cleanses itself. Which I’m assuming will never happen. 
 

The gop have benefited far to long from not playing nice. Time to give it back to them. Time to fix some things. 

There was no mandate.   GOP gained seats in the House.  GOP won seats in the Senate that many thought they would lose; that the Dems had to win the 2 Georgia seats to have any control.

 

The American people didn't vote for the Dem agenda. If they did, Dems would've done better in congressional/senate races and state/local races.   2020 was about getting rid of Trump.

 

The Dems have the power and they better use it.  I am dead serious when I say, they might not have it for long.   Joe Manchin will be tempted to leave the Democrat party at some point this year.  No, he won't become a Republican but he may caucus with them.  Given the narrow margins in the House/Senate; the GOP will be working hard to flip seats to get control before 2022.

 

So, announce your agenda; send it to congress now.  Ram it thru; because you probably won't get a chance later in your term. Especially, when you get close to 2022 midterms.  The GOP is going to do everything to make you fail; just like they did with Obama. 

 

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Unsurprising, but it’s being reported that the Trump Administration had no operational COVID plan and the Biden team needs to start almost from scratch when it comes to mitigation efforts, vaccine distribution, etc. 

 

I don’t know how hyperbolic they are being, but hopefully they can organize quickly. At the very least, not viewing the CDC as an enemy will help. 

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7 minutes ago, Burgold said:

Unsurprising, but it’s being reported that the Trump Administration had no operational COVID plan and the Biden team needs to start almost from scratch when it comes to mitigation efforts, vaccine distribution, etc. 

 

I don’t know how hyperbolic they are being, but hopefully they can organize quickly. At the very least, not viewing the CDC as an enemy will help. 

 

Well he left the Sharpies and construction paper, what more do they want?

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Had a thought just now.  (Guess that's it for the day.)  

 

I assume repealing the GOP's tax cut for the rich is on the agenda.  Although it's going to be politically ugly.  

 

I think one point to use, for the sale, is to point out that the ultra rich have already recovered from the financial effects of the pandemic.  (And let people think about that.  There's 1,000 Americans dying a day, and the billionaire class is making more money than they were pre=Covid.)  

 

But I think another thing they can do, to make the sales pitch easier?  

 

Make the temporary tax cuts that the GOP passed for the bottom 99%, permanent.  

 

Yeah, it would be nice, for deficit reduction purposes, to let them expire.  But they're trivial, on a per person basis.  And letting them expire will be politically ugly.  And the bottom 99% have not recovered.  And we all know they're not going to expire, anyway.  So why not let the Dems get the credit for them?  

 

And, watch the GOP try to object to a tax hike on the rich, that makes a tax cut on everybody else permanent.  

 

21 minutes ago, LD0506 said:

 

Well he left the Sharpies and construction paper, what more do they want?

 

But he intentionally threw out all the caps for the sharpies.  

 

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