stoshuaj Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 52 minutes ago, LightningBuggs said:the local Loudoun Time-Mirror online site released an article a couple days ago that the WFT had contacted the Loudoun Board of Supervisors seeking a meeting to discuss the stadium. The chairwoman of the board said a meeting would be scheduled. ^ here’s the link. Some interesting stuff. https://www.loudountimes.com/news/loudoun-county-staff-to-meet-with-washington-football-team-as-franchise-considers-new-home/article_45495632-7ef4-11ec-9597-3b3df4a3cb39.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, LightningBuggs said: I believe the plot being discussed is near the next Metro stop west of Dulles, Loudoun Gateway. There is enough land near that station. FWIW, the local Loudoun Time-Mirror online site released an article a couple days ago that the WFT had contacted the Loudoun Board of Supervisors seeking a meeting to discuss the stadium. The chairwoman of the board said a meeting would be scheduled. Two options, the one at Loudoun Gateway west of the airport, but the Innovation Station metro one stop to the east has the 100+ acre Waterside development, and the CIT building (trapezoid building) ... and that's the one that feels most likely to me. https://biz.loudoun.gov/innovationstation/ this is a large development, and was part of the HQ2 pitch. https://biz.loudoun.gov/hq2-proposal/ On that website's primary image, all of that greenery (trees) to include the rock quarry were all part of the site proposal. The CIT building just changed hands and was property of the state until last year. I forget who bought it, but it was a group of developers. That entire site can be developed and is right on the Innovation Station metro station that sits in the median of 267 right before Dulles. Route 28 is on the left side, 267 on the right side. Airport off screen on the bottom. Edited January 28, 2022 by JamesMadisonSkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 CIT building circled. General site/development land in the bigger outline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 That's no CIT Building it's a Jawa Sandcrawler. 🤓 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullnelson9999 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) On 1/27/2022 at 2:08 PM, tomwvr said: 270 is awful in the morning and evening. It is fine from 10am-4pm…. putting the stadium In Loudon would be like building in Frederick maryland and putting it in Prince William would be like putting it in Hagerstown maryland. Loudoun County,, specifically Dulles, is in no way analogous to Frederick. Not by distance, not by population density, not by culture. Zero ways. Just look at the population density. 20 hours ago, tomwvr said: Frederick is almost 50 miles Leesburg is 40 miles to DC , Frederick is 50 miles. Travel time is pretty equal. my guess is The stadium will be out near Leesburg not Woodbridge. currently the travel time from Hagerstown to DC is about 1 hour 10 mins and from haymarket to dc of 1 hour 5 mins. I was wondering how large that area was. There's no evidence that says they're building in Leesburg. Like, why even entertain that idea? The Loudoun Gateway site is 28 miles to DC. The numbers you're throwing out there are irrelevant. Y'all really don't seem to know anything about Virginia. Edited January 28, 2022 by fullnelson9999 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Loudoun has most of its population concentrated in the eastern portion … like the eastern 1/5th of the county. I think people hear Loudoun and think Bluemont or Purceville or Lucketts or something. The most likely stadium site will be on a property that is part Fairfax (CIT building) and part Loudoun (the land). And the drive time to Dulles is likely an easy indicator as it’s right next to the airport. Dulles is 30 minutes from dc without traffic. It’s another 15-20 minutes to Leesburg. Edited January 29, 2022 by JamesMadisonSkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) If you want to see the vision for what Loudoun and Fairfax thought that parcel could be, here’s their HQ2 proposal. I firmly believe that Apple would have put their second campus here if Amazon didn’t choose Arlington. I think Apple ended up splitting theirs between Austin and Raleigh announced within a year of HQ2. http://biz.loudoun.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Loudoun-Virginia-Innovation-Station-Initial-Proposal-Fall-2017.pdf Here are a couple pictures from that website of what they envisioned. I don’t know exactly where it stands now with the new owners of CIT but I could imagine for the right price, parts or all of it could be utilized with this same vision in mind, with a stadium and accompanying casino built on the bottom closest to the metro, with the housing above. FWIW the plan is to fill in the quarry to make a lake, so maybe the Moat idea isn’t such a vision after all lol Edited January 29, 2022 by JamesMadisonSkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Before everybody gets their visions of grandeur all wound up, you may want to check out the stipulations regarding casino establishment in Va. I can see the state ratifying legislation to authorize a casino because they are money grubbers and politicians are pretty much always on the take but what are the chances that citizens of Loudoun will vote for a casino? It’s established that this is already one of the most prosperous areas in the nation so they aren’t exactly jonesing for cash. Right now, the 4 casinos authorized by Va are in areas that, shall we say, need a lil boost. Richmond voters did not approve a casino in their area. Would they be inclined to roll the dice (pardon the pun, not really) on a casino and the potential negative aspects that may bring? More information regarding Va and its casino legislation at the link: https://www.500nations.com/Virginia_Casinos.asp basically though, it’s not just badda bing, let’s commence to build us a casino boys Edited January 29, 2022 by stoshuaj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Good point on the casinos. I actually doubt they’d get one approved via local vote. I could absolutely see a sports book getting approved though. But maybe that issue is what forces or drives Snyder to put the stadium down south of Springfield. But IMO that misses a big opportunity to be on metro and at the airport. Dallas and SoFi don’t have casinos. But a sports book would certainly draw people in on non game days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 23 hours ago, c slag said: When I was in school, the Colts left Maryland and the Sunday 1pm regional game became the Redskins and that was probably how a bunch of people became fans Sorry but the Maryland counties around DC are not even close to being Baltimore fans. It’s a different world In Baltimore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 9:47 PM, JamesMadisonSkins said: Good point on the casinos. I actually doubt they’d get one approved via local vote. I could absolutely see a sports book getting approved though. But maybe that issue is what forces or drives Snyder to put the stadium down south of Springfield. But IMO that misses a big opportunity to be on metro and at the airport. Dallas and SoFi don’t have casinos. But a sports book would certainly draw people in on non game days. Dan Snyder needs gamblers given the paucity of fans of his football team. I live right near there, and one downside of the CIT site is the lack of local street infrastructure. The only ways in there currently are two exits on Rt. 28--Innovation Ave. or Sterling Rd., and Sterling Road is already a traffic mess at many times of day. It would take some serious infrastructure build-out to make that site sufficiently accessible to car traffic. Also, I can guarantee that people living in the vicinity won't want a stadium in their backyard. The area is populated heavily by tech newcomers who probably weren't around for the Redskins' glory days and don't give two hoots about the team. All they'll see is really bad traffic and spillover effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Generally speaking, NoVa street infrastructure is just a never ending construction zone. I ****ing hate driving around there so much with a passion because of all the traffic and orange all over every single road and lane closures. I know it won't be like at least 5 years until there is a new stadium but I have zero hope that all the road construction will be done by then because it's been continuous for like the past decade+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 How has nobody posted this yet lol. Been up for 24 minutes. Seems like the most substantial news of this entire stadium process. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Under no circumstance should any State / City subsidize a stadium. As a MD resident I would be absolutely furious if MD gave some type of subsidy or cost sharing to build any professional stadium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Wow Bowser, im not a big fan of her but please bring the team back to stadium and one last game at RFK PLEEEEEEASE IM BEGGING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 It's obvious that Snyder really wants a stadium/casino/mixed use thingy in DC. I'm assuming this bit with Bowser's statement was coordinated in advance. Snyder will try to play jurisdictions off of each other, but I'm sure a DC deal is the end goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Can’t wait to see how the unveiling of the new stadium will be botched Edited February 2, 2022 by dyst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, dyst said: Can’t wait to see how the unveiling of the mew stadium will be botched Exactly. Snyders attempt to move the team back to DC will result in him moving the team to Virginia. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, dyst said: Can’t wait to see how the unveiling of the new stadium will be botched 46 minutes ago, clietas said: Exactly. Snyders attempt to move the team back to DC will result in him moving the team to Virginia. 🤣 Dan Snyder: "We wanted to involve our beloved fans in the process of selecting a location for the new stadium. And we listened to what they said. So I am pleased to announce that in honoring our fans input and the teams deep historic traditional tie to Washington, DC, the new stadium is going to be located in Onley, Virginia." *Might need to google that location. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, CjSuAvE22 said: Wow Bowser, im not a big fan of her but please bring the team back to stadium and one last game at RFK PLEEEEEEASE IM BEGGING! If you think the railing falling on Hurts was bad, I don't think we'd want to see what would happen at another RFK game. Pretty sure the interior is literally crumbling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: the new stadium is going to be located in Onley, Virginia." *Might need to google that location. Assateague Island would be appropriate. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, clietas said: Exactly. Snyders attempt to move the team back to DC will result in him moving the team to Virginia. 🤣 He’ll sign for Loudon county and end up in London city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveWarrior Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 After the way they ****ed up the name announcement, does anyone have any confidence in the organization building a modern complex that will rival the House That Jerruh Built or the Rams/Chargers new palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, BraveWarrior said: After the way they ****ed up the name announcement, does anyone have any confidence in the organization building a modern complex that will rival the House That Jerruh Built or the Rams/Chargers new palace? No, not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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