Voice_of_Reason Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Not that I can tell: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellen_Moore Right. I was thinking of Major Applewhite. And honestly, that could be the same comparison as Kellen Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 8 hours ago, DJHJR86 said: I hate to bring up the "KC" word, but Kirk Cousins was absolutely abysmal in his first 16 games as a starter. The people writing off Kyle Allen after 17 career starts is legitimately baffling to me. And Allen's numbers are better than Cousins's. Now here comes the disclaimer: I do not think Allen is "the future" or that he will turn into the next Kirk Cousins...but he was easily the best quarterback on this roster last season and it wasn't even close. You are correct. But I do think that Allen is not ready to play from the injury. It’s why the team has been pushing th to be so careful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, tomwvr said: You are correct. But I do think that Allen is not ready to play from the injury. It’s why the team has been pushing th to be so careful I think Allen played well last year but he has the same problem that Heinicke had coming into this season. He has to prove he can stay healthy. I'll also say that while I didn't like his arm strength last year, it's not what puts him behind TH to me. It's that even when he was playing, he wasn't getting the ball to his the way TH is. I'm mainly taking shots downfield and 50 50 balls. He wasn't as bad as Smith or Haskins but he wasn't playing like his career was on the line either. I did like his running ability but he got hurt twice (Giants game and Rams game) last year. Not something I like in a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 The tweet above made me literally lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 He looks noticeably less confident now than he did before. When he was just winging it and filling in, he seemed much more free and confident. But once it became about him getting his shot to be a full time starting QB, it all fell apart. Like he's thinking too much, about everything. The coaching points, previous mistakes, future ramifications for his career, etc all look like it's running through his head when he's out there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, justice98 said: The coaching points, previous mistakes, future ramifications for his career, etc all look like it's running through his head when he's out there. Unless you are of the very small elite class of QB's, I gather this goes for most every QB playing the game to different extents. In Heineke's case though, we have to remember that he was a backup in the XFL who is now starting in the NFL. It's basically apples to oranges as far as talent, speed, and complexity. I can only imagine how fast the game feels to him. It's true that he played more free in the beginning, but that was also at a time when there wasn't much tape on him at all. NFL DC's figure out how to make elite QB's uncomfortable, so just imagine what that's like for a guy like Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, justice98 said: He looks noticeably less confident now than he did before. When he was just winging it and filling in, he seemed much more free and confident. But once it became about him getting his shot to be a full time starting QB, it all fell apart. Like he's thinking too much, about everything. The coaching points, previous mistakes, future ramifications for his career, etc all look like it's running through his head when he's out there. I think he's overthinking things to, because look at his games. He's using his legs one week and when they lose he tries to be a more of a dropback guy the next week, then they lose and he switches off again. The amount he runs or rolls out one week to the next seems planned and intentional rather than natural reactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Love his moxie, love his ability on the move. IMO doesn't have the accuracy or arm strength to be a good starter. I like him though as a backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 TH has now outplayed Tom Brady in both games they have faced off. Clearly hes the better player and obvious star of this franchise. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, Peregrine said: TH has now outplayed Tom Brady in both games they have faced off. Clearly hes the better player and obvious star of this franchise. So Brady has to hand over his rings right? That’s the rule right? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Unique ceiling reached today. Not so much about stats but ability to recapture momentum at various points in the game. It’s a team game and a total team effort, but required Heineke to be great. Competent QB play doesnt win today. Whatever rookie QB it is next year, he will have to beat out Heineke. Edited November 14, 2021 by wit33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I'm aware he's no more than a backup. I'm well aware that he's been bad in big parts of this season. But today everyone should be able to tip their cap to him and say that he played a hell of a game. Dude's going to be able to tell his grandkids that he beat Brady and that's awesome. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 That was an A+ game from TH. Best of his career. A tip of the hat to the good fellow. He stayed away from the big mistake snd made some real good plays. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 If he can keeps it up like this. He'll be good to go to me for a few more years. That's the big question now. Can he sustains this kind of play on any given sunday? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TysonM Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 The 19 play drive to seal the win was the longest drive of the NFL this season. He's earned his respect today. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 The HIVE GRAND REOPENING EVENT!!!! there will juggling clowns, a dunk tank with Tonya & Dan, face painters, and kids eat free! 1 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: If he can keeps it up like this. He'll be good to go to me for a few more years. That's the big question now. Can he sustains this kind of play on any given sunday? Probably not. And that's okay, he'll still be able to hold a clipboard and play every once in awhile and make enough money to change his family's fortune. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Who knows, Kirk Cousins first 9 games of the 2015 season ranged from really bad to meh, those last 7 games made him one of the highest paid players in the game. Unlikely, but we've seen it here before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 30 points is 3 “Heinickes”. So, that’s pretty good. If we can get 3 Heinickes next week, we’ll probably win that game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I was there, this was best game to me against his best opponent. There wasn't a lot of people open, but when there was he typically got it to them. Took what defense gave and didn't hurt the team. Bye week was right on time 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Probably not. And that's okay, he'll still be able to hold a clipboard and play every once in awhile and make enough money to change his family's fortune. And do what I care about most… donate money back to Old Dominion athletics. I long NFL backup QB career will assure this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I'm surprised no one's complained that he couldn't get it done when it counted against Brady in the playoffs last year but he just ****ed us on draft positioning in a relatively meaningless game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I'm surprised no one's complained that he couldn't get it done when it counted against Brady in the playoffs last year but he just ****ed us on draft positioning in a relatively meaningless game. Probably because he played great both back then and today, and the only difference was that the defense didn't get picked apart today? Having said that, he's been bad plenty this year. Edited November 14, 2021 by SpacePenguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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