@DCGoldPants Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I read somewhere that he will most likely enter the draft this year. Watched him all season at Maryland and he's been awsome...but the ACC isn't exactly a powerhouse. Is he a 1st round pick? Think we could use another young strong LB with a nose for the ball? discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Speaking of the Hendersons, how about the one from Tennessee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I think E.J. is going to be great in the NFL, but I also think the linebacker core is our deepest unit by far, as evidenced by no appreciable let down when two of the three starters were out (Barber and Mitchell), and at times Arrington and Jones were out. I say no way in hell we go with aLB in the first round, considering we'll be picking around where we did last year. I would love to trade down this year. Let's assume we get the 15th pick again. I would love to trade down to the mid twenties and pick up another second rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Henderson is going to be a special player in the NFL because of his attitude and leadership ability. He has the skills as well, but I look at Henderson as another Kendrell Bell-type immediate impact player as a rookie, although their games are not readily comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Marty was reported on WTEM as saying he is going to try to resign Barber, so we would have a logjam at OLB. We better look at DT,OG and DE as well as hope that Brandt can take over at Center ------------------ Take A Sip of the Marty KoolAid and Believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Unless we go with a bigtime veteran, I think we'll pick up Kittner if he is available. Accurate passer who reads the field well. 15th is too high, which is why I would trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 He's a stud. Plain and simple. But we have many more pressing needs. Hopefully he'll go to a party where SOMEONE ELSE smokes pot and he'll fall to the 2nd round where we'll nab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I don't think we are going to draft a qb either way. If Marty stays I think we sign a veteran and ditto if Wolf comes in. The reason is simple. This team is ready to contend with the addition of a quarterback and some smart moves in the draft and free agency this offseason. This is not a major rebuilding job at this point. There are young starters coming into their own at a number of positions and some mid-career veterans like Robert Jones and Ben Coleman that have made contributions this season who should be re-signed. Drafting a rookie high in the first couple of rounds, puts us on the merry go round of watching him make mistakes like Banks did this year and look to 2003 or 2004 as the year to make the playoffs. That is not acceptable. And I don't think it is acceptable to Snyder either. If the Bears personnel-wise can lose Marcus Robinson and start Jim Miller at qb and go 11-3, there is no reason the Redskins with some similar good fortune next season can't do the same thing with the talent on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I was referring to Henderson, not Kittner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I prefer the pot thing to happen to the Tennesee Henderson and let him "fall" to us in the first round. If we were smart and played the rookies the last two games and of course lost them while evaluating the team we could have a better shot a higher calibre DT. OG has to be addressed. Do we draft OG in the first or 2nd round? Do we groom Ohalete or try to draft R Williams of okie dokie? ------------------ Take A Sip of the Marty KoolAid and Believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Blah, blah, boring boring. I'm getting rather sick of this whole "dont draft a young stud QB" thing. It's like you are all gunshy. You want the big guns, you gotta step up. I dont want some mediocre journeyman who will turn old before our very eyes, and put us in the same damn situation in two years. It is time to get a young franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 that's great except for the fact you have Arrington, Smoot, Bailey, Jansen, Samuels and Davis that are ready to step up and win NOW. Who knows where these players will be in 3-4 years when that rookie qb comes into his own if everything goes right with his development? A couple of these guys could get hurt or leave in free agency. And then you are in the process of rebuilding the team once again, this time having a quarterback but little else. Gruden was in the same spot with the Raiders. He had an 8-8 team that could either find a veteran who could play in the offense or draft a young qb and go 5-11 or 6-10 for 2-3 years while that player took his lumps. The Raiders went with Gannon. I am not saying we can find another Gannon for nothing and be 12-4 next season. But, it would seem silly after building this team up with high draft picks over the past 3 years that we NOW are going to herald another 2-3 years of "building" with a new quarterback. This car is ready to get out on the road. Time to find a driver to get it into the left hand lane and press down on the accelerator. We don't need to be fooling around with rookie drivers who have just finished their driver's ed. Let someone else teach the young guys how to parallel park [ by bulldog on December 27, 2001.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 This car is ready to get out on the road. Time to find a driver to get it into the left hand lane and press down on the accelerator Compromise.... pick up Trent Dilfer (read: cheap), and still draft Kittner. Of course this would assume either that Sage is capable of stepping in as a backup, or just dumping his *** (not likely). BTW, those guys will be around 3-4 years from now, along with other young studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I don't disagree that acquiring a veteran and following up with a solid future choice in the draft is a smart way to go if Bledsoe and Brunell are too expensive or too costly in terms of draft picks. The advantage to the Dilfer scenario is we would get a veteran qb who is coachable and has experience and doesn't make the same kinds of mental mistakes that Banks does. The other thing it does is it allows us to invest that #1 pick in the DL we desperately need. Whatever scenario works itself out, I don't want to lose that #1 pick in a trade for a veteran if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B&G Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Bulldog, I couldn't agree with you more. The future really is now this time, isn't it? Next year's QB Class will be stonger anyway. I don't believe there is a franchise type QB in this draft. In any case, we have other fish to fry in draft 2002 including a DE to pass rush, an OG to solidify the center of our line, a fast WR to complement or receiving corps, perhaps a SS who can cover the run and the pass (look at Archuleta's success) and some flyers to complement our already much improved ST's. Maybe a punter if we have a low compensatory pick. In Free Agency, we need a another strong, wide-body at DT and most importantly a veteran QB with 3-4 years left so we can prepare the QB we draft next year. Here's a thought Oz and I threw around yesterday: 1) If we can't afford Brunell or Bledsoe, bring in Blake and Beurlein to compete for 1st string. Loser goes to backup and we keep Graham as #3. This is an economical approach which would definitely upgrade us at QB whle preserving money for our other needs. 2) Send Sage to NFLE to see what we really have...maybe he's the one! [ by B&G on December 27, 2001.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B&G Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Mick, I'd love to get our hands on Henderson (Tennessee) but he is currently projected to go in the top 5. Don't think we'll have the chance, though stranger things have happened on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B&G Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 NavyDave, I would go for an OG in the second round for two reasons. This draft is rich in good quality OG's. It is somewhat weak in good quality DE's. We can semi-solidify our defense if we can get a stud, pass-rushing son of a gun to join us. Our sack stats were horrible this year...we may have been last in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I think we should try to resign Barber. Then in the draft we should draft Carr if he is available. If he doesn't go first he could very well drop to us. If Carr is not available then we should draft the best Defensive Lineman (Hopefully Tackle). If the cream of the crop lineman have all been taken we should draft Roy Williams to solidify our secondary. We have many options, but I don't think we should draft a Linebacker with our first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 The Redskins won't draft a safety in the first round. I don't think you will see a qb either. My guess is you will see an OL or DL, with an outside shot at a LB in case Barber's negotiations don't go well. The other option of course is a trade, which is a distinct possibility. Marty may decide he can trade the first pick and get a quarterback and then use the #2 pick to grab a DT. I think we will follow form and go after OL in the middle to late rounds and with the RFA's as we did with Brandt last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I mostly agree with you, bulldog. But don't be positive about not drafting a QB in round one. It really depends on how things play out, how pre-draft workouts and interviews go. You never know, but David Carr or Joey Harrington could turn out to be Marty's kind of guy. There is precident. Marty did use a first round draft pick to choose Burnie Kosar in the supplental draft. The Browns were quickly in Super Bowl contention after that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 and he traded 2 #1's for a guy named Joe Montana. Thus, I feel that a deal for Drew Bledsoe (no Montana but no slouch) is not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 27, 2001 Author Share Posted December 27, 2001 Drew Bledsoe is NOT Joe Montana. however, Marty might pull something out of his arse on draft day...if Ron Wolf isn't running the show. ------------------ <IMG SRC="http://tenaciousd.com/images/nuke2.gif" border=0><IMG SRC="http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/1d/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I44993-2001Sep05" border=0> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I don't know. Drew Bledsoe at 30 might be as good as Joe Montana at 38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Is he like E.J. Harris? (any old timers remember this guy? wonder what became of him...) ------------------ "I'm MikeB and I get respect, your cash and your jewelry are what I expect..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 bulldog....i'm onboard with most of your posts. but, i cannot fathom how you come to the conclusion that this team is teetering at the edge of competitiveness. they have one of the worst conceived, least productive offenses in the entire NFL!! this team will never contend, it may win some low scoring games, but push things beyond 17-21 points and they don't have what it takes. and it's not going to change. i'm afraid TCO is on the money. until we find a long-term solution at QB, this team is not headed for anything greater than a first round exit should they get that far next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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