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Rookie QB or Veteran QB for 2021???


Rookie QB or Veteran QB for next season(2021)???  

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  1. 1. Rookie QB or Veteran QB for next season (2021)???

    • Draft QB first round
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    • Rookie QB from outside first round
      2
    • Sign FA Veteran
      6
    • Trade for Veteran
      2
    • Stand Pat with one of the QBs we have on Roster, draft QB in 2022 Draft iinstead
      3
    • I don't know
      4
    • I don't care
      2
    • I'm tired of 5 year development plans burned to the ground in less then 2
      6


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16 hours ago, kingdaddy said:

That's exactly what the Browns have been doing for 30 years plus.....Maybe we should've taken Tua or Herbert this year? Some franchise QB's turn out that way because of the offensive systems they are in and the team put around them, others are just tremendous talents. Would you consider Cam Newton a franchise QB at this point and would you take him right now and for the next 5 years? I actually think I would....


I do and I think I would also.  Cam has taken a ton of hits over the past several years and isn’t what he was, but I still think he’s better than what we have.  Cam as a bridge to a developing QB works for me.  Gives us a few years to try to increase the talent around him and give a young guy some time to develop.   I think we kinda tried that with Alex but he got broke.  When what your doing isn’t working you have to try something different; we have proven what doesn’t work.

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5 hours ago, ZarG3 said:

Honestly? Sign Cam to a one year deal, draft Trey Lance and let him sit for a year. He reminds me a lot like Mahomes.

 

I'd take a flyer on that

 

I think Cam is playing well enough that he is not going to sign a one year deal.    If you are signing Cam, and with his relationship to Rivera, its not inconceivable, its going to for something like a 4 year deal.

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17 hours ago, evmiii said:

I can tell you what doesn’t work; going into every draft needing a QB.  Hit on one and the next 5 years you can pick talent to put around them.  Miss and start all over.  We just can’t seem to pick the right one.  Is it lousy scouting, horrible talent evaluation, owner meddling, desperation or maybe a bit of all of that.  I like Lawrence and Fields, but I don’t know if either of their games translates to the pros.  Haskins had a great year behind an offensive line that was better than about every defensive line they played and receivers that were 3 steps open on every route.  See how well that is working out.  Lawrence looks great beating up on lesser talent ACC schools and Fields is doing what Haskins did.  We are going to keep picking until we get it right.

Lawrence’s game is going to translate. That’s a fact just by watching him. You could see the questions with Haskins, not with Lawrence.

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6 minutes ago, JoggingGod said:

Lawrence’s game is going to translate. That’s a fact just by watching him. You could see the questions with Haskins, not with Lawrence.

 

The weak quality of his regular opponents has to be a red flag, though.

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I’ve watched a lot of Lawrence’s games and there is no doubt he is a great prospect.  A couple of slight concerns:  (1) He very often throws to his first read (not his fault because his guys are always open), but you haven’t seen him do a lot of reading and finding third or fourth option.  (2). He works almost exclusively in the middle of the field (once again if it’s open take it, rarely if ever see him throw outside. (3). He feeds on weak DB’s, target rich environment in the ACC, he doesn’t look as good against quality DBs.  All that said, I’d take him without hesitation.  He will be the first pick of next years draft most likely to the New York Jets.

 

Fields looks good too behind a dominant OLine throwing to wide open future NFL receivers.  He has a strong arm and is a very good runner.  He seems to be a one read then run kinda guy but it is very effective.  I’m not sure if it’s a lingering thing from past OU guys, but I’m just not as high on Fields as the other two.  That said, he looks like a very good prospect and I wouldn’t be upset if we drafted him.

 

I just started watching film on Trey Lance and I must admit I am very impressed.  Great arm, great athlete, takes care of the ball.  Level of competition and his limited time as a starter are concerns.  Might be too tough for his on britches because he takes on too many tacklers and takes solid hits so he would definitely need to work on that at the next level or he will get killed.  With 3 years of eligibility left he will probably need a little more prep time, but I’m sure they would rush him ready or not.
 

 Last prediction I read had the Washington Football Team picking 6th (not sure how they came to that conclusion because I’m not sure we win another game).  I’m still thinking second, third at the latest.  I don’t think Lawrence will be in play, but most likely Fields and Lance will be.  I think either guy will be a step in the right direction.  If we do pick 6th, I think Fields could be gone before that so we might be debating on Lance or the best player available.

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1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

There's Philip Rivers, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jacoby Brissett, Cam Newton. Maybe more.

Choices actually aren't bad for a fill-in, if we draft someone good

If I'm Dallas I am on the phone with Miami offering a 7th for Fitzmagic right now....he'd be great with that cast of WR's if the line can protect him. Hell, I wish he'd come here. 

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If not able to get Trevor Lawrence:

 

Sign Cam Newton

Draft Micah Parsons round 1

Draft O-line rounds 2,3

Sign stud free agent WR

Sign solid free agent Safety

Sign Solid O-line free agent

Happy Thanksgiving for everyone.

 

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1 hour ago, kingdaddy said:

If I'm Dallas I am on the phone with Miami offering a 7th for Fitzmagic right now....he'd be great with that cast of WR's if the line can protect him.

 

Are you tryna help Dallas, or help WFT ?

Whose side are you on ?  😁

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4 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

There's Philip Rivers, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jacoby Brissett, Cam Newton. Maybe more.

Choices actually aren't bad for a fill-in, if we draft someone good

It’s possible these players maybe available via trade.

 

Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan and maybe even Aaron Rodgers.

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On 10/21/2020 at 4:38 AM, Malapropismic Depository said:

There's Philip Rivers, Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jacoby Brissett, Cam Newton. Maybe more.

Choices actually aren't bad for a fill-in, if we draft someone good

 

20 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said:

It’s possible these players maybe available via trade.

 

Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan and maybe even Aaron Rodgers.

First, it's very possible the Jets never win a game this year.  Second, Lawrence might not want to play for the Jets and could play his Senior year (just saying).  The idea of getting Lawrence is not a reality...nor is this team ready for developing a rookie QB imo.  Now, the veteran options shouldn't include immobile QBs as they won't work in this scheme.  Throw Rivers out and add Jameis Winstton, who is currently enrolled in the NFL's Harvard Business School for QB's as NO backup.  Also throw out Rogers, as he's not going anywhere next year.  Matt Ryan doesn't fit and Fitz is old.  The current options will increase with a basket of other veterans getting chopped with a 2021 salary cap drop almost 20M where teams were banking on the projected increase. 

 

This might be the chance to spot fill a veteran QB and add OLine FA's and fill major LB'er issues along with a WR 1/2 and safety.  Then see what you've got in year 2.  

I think year 3 is where you're ready to develop a franchise QB. 

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I’m gonna go with both and lean towards sitting the rookie the whole season in an attempt to win next year and have the team in a good position from a morale standpoint the following year. 
 

As I evolve as a fan and person, the more I like the idea of letting the rookie focus on the process of being a professional in year #1 without any external pressures to perform at subjective levels. 

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