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Rookie QB or Veteran QB for next season(2021)???  

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  1. 1. Rookie QB or Veteran QB for next season (2021)???

    • Draft QB first round
    • Rookie QB from outside first round
    • Sign FA Veteran
    • Trade for Veteran
    • Stand Pat with one of the QBs we have on Roster, draft QB in 2022 Draft iinstead
    • I don't know
    • I don't care
    • I'm tired of 5 year development plans burned to the ground in less then 2
  2. 2. Rookie QB or Veteran QB for next season (2021)??? - (Feb 2020)

    • Draft QB first round
    • Rookie QB from outside first round
    • Sign FA Veteran
    • Trade for Veteran
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    • Stand Pat with one of the QBs we have on Roster, draft QB in 2022 Draft iinstead
    • I don't know
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    • I don't care
    • I'm tired of 5 year development plans burned to the ground in less then 2
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54 minutes ago, DefinitelyMaybe said:


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I think RR and Co. are fixin' to draft a QB of the future THIS year.  :)  Just a guess.  If not one of the 2021 so called (LOL, I call them) fantastic 4, then hopefully Mill/Mond.  Please no Trask.  

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What connections are there to Teddy from Washington? Rivera left the season before Teddy got there. If all they've got is that Rivera used to be on the team, that's one single connection lol

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19 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

What connections are there to Teddy from Washington? Rivera left the season before Teddy got there. If all they've got is that Rivera used to be on the team, that's one single connection lol

Scott Turner was in Minnesota with Teddy Bridgewater

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Teddy should go to New Orleans. They still won; when he had to start.

 

Trade Winston and bring back Teddy.

 

Carolina should’ve waited until at least Day 2 of the draft; their coach is basically pinning his career on Sam becoming an nfl QBs. Big mistake.

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This is why you cant run around as an organization with your poker hands pointed towards the other players. We saw it happen with the Bears, and now the Panthers. They were so busy letting their own fanbase know of their effort to upgrade at QB, they threw away their own leverage and now have to sell below replacement level QBs to a fanbase that was dreaming of bringing in someone elite. Gotta have professionalism in a front office. At the very least, it severely lowers the sting of failure. It sucks not having the inside scoop on what your team is angling, but it is absolutely the right way to go.

 

How long until the Darnold QB1 tweet.

 

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So they traded today's equivalent of a 3rd, a 5th, and 6th...

its still more than I would give but its far from a fleece to take a look for a year...jmo..

I Don't think Darnold will take that next step, however Joe Brady seems to really know what he's doing so....we'll see.

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I don't think Carolina should try to trade Bridgewater.  They're going to need him soon enough, once they see Darnold in action.  Can't believe they paid so much for Darnold.  They had to be the only ones bidding.

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7 hours ago, Blanka said:

The bar is set so low that Sam can be Rex Grossman in Carolina and this thread would still be an OldTakesExposed goldmine. 

 

That's true.  I'd add even with the Jets he had some good games in the mix, so he will have some I told you so games I'd guess.  but overall, I'd bet against him.  Will see though. 

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7 hours ago, Jericho said:

Who wants to pay Teddy Bridgewater $17,000,000? Please dial 1 for the Carolina Panthers. :)

I didn't realize they signed him to that big of a contract. Now I understand why they want to get rid of him.

If they do, their lineup will be Darnold, PJ Walker and Will Grier. Yuck

Thank goodness WFT is in a comfortable spot with QB's for the year and can if they desire bring in another

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3 hours ago, DWinzit said:

I didn't realize they signed him to that big of a contract. Now I understand why they want to get rid of him.

If they do, their lineup will be Darnold, PJ Walker and Will Grier. Yuck

Thank goodness WFT is in a comfortable spot with QB's for the year and can if they desire bring in another

Maybe we can trade Kyle back to Carolina?

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53 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said:

All this makes me feel even better about having Fitz onboard.

I'm very excited to see Fitz trot out there with the other starters and sling pass after pass to TMac, Samuel and Thomas.....we are in good hands.

Keep building the defense.

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1 minute ago, kingdaddy said:

I'm very excited to see Fitz trot out there with the other starters and sling pass after pass to TMac, Samuel and Thomas.....we are in good hands.

Keep building the defense.

Could be out in right field on this but it also makes the possibility of moving up and acquiring one of the talented QBs or having one possibly fall to us that much greater if TB is traded to Denver.  They along with Carolina might still draft one of the highly ranked QBs still but our, RR's chances of moving up may become greater.  Seems that way to me anyway.  

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20 hours ago, HigSkin said:

Just another opinion and because it's slow on news today.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/washingtonfootball/news/washington-football-teams-guy-at-qb-an-option-in-every-nfl-draft-round

 

WFT's Guy at QB?: An Option in Every NFL Draft Round

 

 

Our thought is that unless overwhelmingly sold on the talent, the Washington Football Team shouldn't be trading up for a quarterback in the 2021 NFL Draft. Even then, giving the future away might not be worth what's in the present. 

 

Four quarterbacks saw action in D.C. for Ron Rivera's first season. The hope is that veteran journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick will see all 17 games — if not more in the postseason — for 2021. Still, the common thought with the 38-year-old is his role as being both a starter and a mentor for the "franchise quarterback" of tomorrow today. ...

 

If the WFT can find someone for him to mentor.

 

It's clear what Fitzpatrick is at this point in his career. The same goes for Taylor Heinicke and Kyle Allen, both of whom have spent at least a season in coordinator Scott Turner's system. The trio can get you some wins, but can they get over the hump? 

 

A combined 21 years of NFL experience has led to an 0-1 playoff run. 

 

That's not enough to prove Washington is set for 2021. With "their guy" it could be for the long-term. The question is, who is Washington's "guy"? 

 

It is in the first round? The second? Should the WFT be prepared to throw one dart ... somewhere ... in every round?

That's our thesis here.

 

Based off what the offense could be looking for, here's an option in each round Washington could be interested in for the next long-term starter. 

 

ROUND 1: Trey Lance, North Dakota State 

This is the only quarterback worth trading up for into the top 10. Even then, it's a huge risk with boom-bust potential written all over it. Still, Lance's final season in with the Bison showed he was accurate, precise and excelled in decision-making to help his team win the FCS title.  Forty-two total touchdowns against zero interceptions. Need we say more?  

 

Lance is talented, but one year of production isn't enough to make him an NFL starter. Learning behind Fitzpatrick, the young gun can harness his poise with the release while also adapting to NFL defensive looks. 

 

Washington might only make Lance "their guy" if he were to fall outside the top 10. It seems unlikely, but could he slip to 19?

 

ROUND 2: Kyle Trask, Florida

Trask is a high IQ-based quarterback coming from Dan Mullen's system down in Gainesville. The production lived up in 2020 after coming in for Felipe Franks last season.

 

Most of Trask's success came with a clean pocket and a star-studded supporting cast to work after the catch. Few would describe his arm as pinpoint accurate and his lack of mobility makes him limited when things go haywire. 

 

He's a project, but he could have upside should Washington focus on the keeping the offensive line as the x-factor. 

 

ROUND 3: Davis Mills, Stanford

Turner's system will be looking for a quarterback who can react quick and deliver a perfect strike. That's where Mills thrived best in Palo Alto. As a two-year starter, the former Cardinal can assess a situation early, connect downfield and have the confidence to throw on target. 

The biggest area of concern? His quickness. Sometimes Mills will decide where the ball his headed without waiting for the play to unfold a second longer. That led to multiple turnovers during his time in college. 

He has all the skills to be great, but learning the "dos" and "don'ts" of passing will be essential. 

 

ROUND 4: Kellen Mond, Texas A&M

One look at Mond's arm strength shows he can extend plays deep downfield for massive gains in any system. The former Aggie also vastly understands the concepts needed to play at the next level.

 

Mond's biggest flaw is his growth. After being the starter for four seasons in College Station, there's just been flashes of the ultimate product. Was it coaching? Lack of weapons? Trust? 

 

Mond's a risk no matter where he lands, but we wonder if his upside and pure strength could make him the next Dak Prescott. 

 

 

ROUND 5: Sam Ehlinger, Texas 

Ehlinger need to become better as an intermediate passer. His ability to evade pressure and use his legs will work at the next level. His overall arm strength will rely on pinpoint accuracy. 

 

Fitzpatrick could teach the ropes of connecting for accuracy, but even then it might be just enough for a high-end backup.  

 

ROUND 6: Ian Book, Notre Dame 

From a leadership standpoint, Book might be the best quarterback in this class. He's gusty, though and is willing to put the team on his back. Sometimes, it's too much that leads to forced plays downfield in tight coverage. 

 

Book might be the best of the late bunch, but he needs to improve on his touch and vision to be a quality name in the NFL. 

 

ROUND 7: Feleipe Franks, Arkansas 

The stereotypical quarterback with a great size and good arm strength, Franks fits most systems. While he looks the part of a quarterback, his accuracy and overall vision aren't up to par. 

 

Franks has to get better at going through his progressions and delivering cleaner strikes. Still, off size alone, Rivera and Turner would have something to work with.

 

And that's the thesis here: Fitzpatrick as the master ... and a search for a worthy apprentice. 

 

 

An interesting list but I have a really hard time seeing Trask in the 2nd and Mond in the 4th. IMO Mond >> Trask and I have doubts Mond lasts beyond the 2nd round; I'd flip those two around as far as draft round. I could potentially see Mills in the 3rd but I think his lack of experience, injury history, and tendency to follow up great throws with complete head scratchers could push him down a bit further.

 

As far as Lance I do like his tools and traits but his extreme lack of experience along with playing against subpar competition is a bit worrying. He was also on a team with a great running game so he wasn't asked to pass all that much or put the team on his back. If he fell to 19 I'd be fine with it. As far as trading up, it would depend on how far he fell and what the price was. Big risk.

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1 hour ago, mistertim said:

 

An interesting list but I have a really hard time seeing Trask in the 2nd and Mond in the 4th. IMO Mond >> Trask and I have doubts Mond lasts beyond the 2nd round; I'd flip those two around as far as draft round. I could potentially see Mills in the 3rd but I think his lack of experience, injury history, and tendency to follow up great throws with complete head scratchers could push him down a bit further.

 

As far as Lance I do like his tools and traits but his extreme lack of experience along with playing against subpar competition is a bit worrying. He was also on a team with a great running game so he wasn't asked to pass all that much or put the team on his back. If he fell to 19 I'd be fine with it. As far as trading up, it would depend on how far he fell and what the price was. Big risk.

I'd be fine with either Mond or Mills, sit behind fitz for a season or two and they both could be starting QBs in the nfl. I hope they stay away from Trask though, not a huge fan of him. In regards to Lance, he isn't going to make it past 8 at most imo.

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8 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

It seems extremely ironic...

A football player could literally be the 17th best (or even better) Quarterback, on an entire planet of 8 Billion people...

and still, an overwhelming number of fans will say about him, "You Suck !"

 

 

 

 

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I think you have to keep in mind that they are talking on a scale, and not in the 1:8,000,000,000 scale. 

 

It's more on a 1:32 scale. Because that's the reference point.

 

No one who played or has played in the NFL sucks at football. 

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