Idaho fan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Well it’s time. Let’s see where this team stacks up against the best in the league. I’m not optimistic but happy to be playing meaningful games in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: That's your takeaway from my point? I must have missed your point since I thought you said it wasn't worth taking a QB after the 5th pick. I wonder if players like Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson, etc. would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedskins 21 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 10:05 AM, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: what next year? 6 will do it this year Come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 You guys realize that even if we don't win the division, we still have a reasonable chance at the 3rd Wild Card ? Because there was a time this year, when things were so bad, that noone would have believed we had a chance to get in as a WC. Thanks in part to the additional playoff spot this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Vagiants road look more daunting especially after tonight's win. 3 out of their 4 opponents are in the playoff race. This team's chances are looking better. Here's hoping things break their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Califan007 said: Pretty much sums up my thoughts on hoping for winning vs hoping for losing: Wright nailed it, this game shows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Califan007 said: Wright nailed it, this game shows it. So glad we have this guy leading the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplosive Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 That catch by Sims.. Holy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 IMO this win shifts the pressure back to the Giants because outside of the Cowboys, they won't be favored to win any of their remaining games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Yeah, the Jets have this on ice. Their remaining games are Seattle who's going to be out for blood after losing to the Giants. Then the Rams, Browns and the last game is against the Patriots who are coming around and might have playoff implications on the line in week 17. Anyway, the silver lining here for the Giants winning the division, if they do...for me, is Alfred Morris. Love that guy, love seeing him playing well, even if it's for a division rival. And to a lesser extent, Colt, too. Both professional, likable guys. And really, I root for anyone who's survived this dumpster fire of a franchise and has gone on to play well somewhere else. You have to feel bad for Alfred that he never got a real payday after we got an All Pro and 2 Pro Bowls out of his rookie deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, NoCalMike said: IMO this win shifts the pressure back to the Giants because outside of the Cowboys, they won't be favored to win any of their remaining games. The funny thing is the Giants/Cards game helps us both ways. If Giants win a Cards loss helps our Wild Card chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: The funny thing is the Giants/Cards game helps us both ways. If Giants win a Cards loss helps our Wild Card chances. And the Vikes play the @Bucs, Bears, and @Saints in the next 3 so they will be up against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Odds are good we finish somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7. Whether that's division champs or wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 We're 5-7 and are now +4 net points on the year. We have finally after 20+ years built a young roster that can compete. Draft a QB to sit behind Smith next year, and just continue to let Kyle and Ron do their thing because it's working. Giants better win the next 4 because if they don't, the division is ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hell we got a real good chance of 7-9 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplosive Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Giants better win the next 4 because if they don't, the division is ours. So you're saying that we're winning 3 out of 4 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Xplosive said: So you're saying that we're winning 3 out of 4 then? I think we go 4-0, 3-1 at worst. This team is different with Alex Smith at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said: I think we go 4-0, 3-1 at worst. This team is different with Alex Smith at the helm. Absolutely agree. Seattle has an awful defense and looks like they're falling apart. It's a long season and we're peaking at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Ashburn Dave said: I must have missed your point since I thought you said it wasn't worth taking a QB after the 5th pick. I wonder if players like Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson, etc. would agree. OK. I didn't say that either. Everyone knows that you can find players including QBs outside the top 5. It was a discussion about how your odds decrease or some say not the further down you go in the draft. that's all. It's not a wild and crazy all or nothing point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Where is that bugs bunny meme about being a bad team in first? Someone just posted it and I can't find it. I know we aren't in first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 18 hours ago, Califan007 said: Higher draft picks don't improve the odds if your FO is incompetent. A talented FO improves your odds no matter where you pick. The only real thing that improves your odds is having more picks, not having higher picks. Who is arguing that incompetent FO's thrive? Why bother with the strawman stuff like that? Quote me where I say it doesn't matter who makes the pick. You know from arguments in the Bruce thread what I feel about that. Lets stick to the point. You repeat again my argument that the more picks the better success. That's correct. That's why I made the point. But the point that it doesn't matter where you pick in the draft, high low, its all the same is wildy wrong and i am surprised you keep sticking with it. It's not true. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) https://theriotreport.com/scout-camp-2018-about-the-author/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyholetsgogrant Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 hours ago, SAli457180 said: Vagiants road look more daunting especially after tonight's win. 3 out of their 4 opponents are in the playoff race. This team's chances are looking better. Here's hoping things break their way. True, but the Giants to have been getting lucky, teams rolling over for them, winning with a backup, etc. I worry they have the lucky season and back into the playoffs. Giants have a solid defense, and it looks like defenses this year are keeping teams in games more this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said: I think we go 4-0, 3-1 at worst. This team is different with Alex Smith at the helm. At worst we go 2-2, at best we win all 4. Really, the only game that is a tossup is Seattle. Also, winning the East might not be are only playoff option. With Arizona fading; that 7th wild card is up for grabs. The 2 6-6 teams: Minnesota and Arizona. The 4 5-7 teams: Washington, Detroit, Chicago and San Francisco. Meaningful football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7th Wild Card??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoshuaj Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. Sinister said: 7th Wild Card??? I would think he’s referring to the 7th playoff spot, 3rd wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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