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Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

224 members have voted

  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

    • Yes
      47
    • No
      104
    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.
      73

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Andre The Giant

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10 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

Chris Russell saying they should have kept somebody means that person was a friend and a source. It's that simple, the track record proves it.  Rob Rodgers was hired to essentially do the same thing Eric Schaffer did. So the position Schaffer filled in the organization has been filled.  

 

I don't disagree they need to hire somebody to run the business side. (PS: That shouldn't have been Schaffer, and that's not what Schaffer did)) They HAD that person in Brian Lafamina, who Bruce and Dan ran off.

 

They do need somebody to take things off of Rivera's plate.  I agree, one guy can't handle everything.  Even if it's somebody on the business side who works for Ron who he delegates to, that's fine.a start.  But Ron shouldn't have to be attending name-change meetings, marketing and sales meetings, and other stuff which will pull him away from preparing and coaching the team.

 

I am FINE with Kyle Smith working for Ron.  Not everybody is, but for now, that's fine with me.  Ron has 100% control over everything football related.  But he shouldn't also have to be the leader of the name change, the response to COVID, the response to the protests, the guy who's basically in charge of every aspect of the organization.  I completely agree he needs help

 

That said, I'm not sure "the building is in chaos" is accurate either.  What we've seen from Ron is a really steady hand on the tiller.  And sure, there is going to be chaos with the name change bomb that was dropped on them.  There's no way to avoid that chaos. What in the hell would Eric Schaffer have done with the name change stuff?  Write a contract and offer a legal opinion?

 

As usual, Russell might have some information, but he's missed the point.  Schaffer going was fine.  Probably good.  The person who shouldn't have gone was Lafamina and his crew.  THEY would be the people you'd want right now.  But Snyder and Allen ran them off within a year.  If Russell wanted to point to something stupid Snyder did, that's it.  Not firing his source.  This is the same sour grapes after both the Haz and Barry firings.  The Rooster spent YEARS trying to convince me Haz was an incompetent nincompoop. 

 

Ok, I'll fall of my soap box.  


Russell’s article is frustrating, because I want to believe the org finally has its act together, even if probably not true. 
 

That said, If Rivera does need more help, it’s up to him to address and discuss with Snyder.  He seems like the kind of guy who will, but time will tell. 

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LOL at Chris Russell saying the building is in chaos, as if we went from some model franchise to complete disarray, give me a break. 
 

All this article does is cement my feelings even more about Snyder. It’s one thing to make excuses for him when the fans are unhappy, or when a former coach/player speaks out but when people (not just one but THREE) who own a share in the most profitable sport in the country want out, all signs unequivocally point to Dan Dan.

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1 minute ago, dyst said:

LOL at Chris Russell saying the building is in chaos, as if we went from some model franchise to complete disarray, give me a break. 
 

All this article does is cement my feelings even more about Snyder. It’s one thing to make excuses for him when the fans are unhappy, or when a former coach/player speaks out but when people (not just one but THREE) who own a share in the most profitable sport in the country want out, all signs unequivocally point to Dan Dan.

 

I am hoping Smith doesn't go away that easily. That tweet above--if Smith as compromising information that slowly leaks out would be such poetic justice--given how Snyder has treated people on their way out.

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1 minute ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

I am hoping Smith doesn't go away that easily. That tweet above--if Smith as compromising information that slowly leaks out would be such poetic justice--given how Snyder has treated people on their way out.

Got to agree. As much as Bruce needed to be out, 23 years is proof enough as to who the real issue is.

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Literally NO ONE wants Snyder around. Not the fans, not fellow owners, not local politicians he is going to work with to get a new deal done, agents, players...they all hate him. Name one person who likes having Snyder here?

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29 minutes ago, dyst said:

It seems Amazon and Bezos is getting in on it too

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29430296/amazon-pull-redskins-merchandise-team-reviews-nickname

 

Does that mean that my Haskins Redskins' jersey is already officially a collector's item, and worth thousands, since soon you won't be able to buy one anymore ?

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6 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

Does that mean that my Haskins Redskins' jersey is already officially a collector's item, and worth thousands, since soon you won't be able to buy one anymore ?

Makes me wonder how much my dad's (autographed from the 2005 team, earnest byner being one)superbowl shirt that was bought at Minneapolis stadium will be worth...

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8 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

Yea, him. But I'm gonna hold firm on my asking price.

I know I can get more than that for an Apke jersey.

 

Oh, just imagine how much my Jesse Lumsden preseason jersey is worth!

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12 hours ago, dyst said:

LOL at Chris Russell saying the building is in chaos, as if we went from some model franchise to complete disarray, give me a break. 
 

All this article does is cement my feelings even more about Snyder. It’s one thing to make excuses for him when the fans are unhappy, or when a former coach/player speaks out but when people (not just one but THREE) who own a share in the most profitable sport in the country want out, all signs unequivocally point to Dan Dan.

 

 I listened to Russell talk about this.  In short, Bruce wasn't just the GM but also ran business operations so Dan replaced the GM component of Bruce's previous duties but not the business side of the operation.  So according to him, multiple people are pitching in on the business side but no one is in charge and it's a bit chaotic. And supposedly Rivera isn't a fan of having to deal with it.

 

Yeah ago Dan hired Lafemina who supposedly is rock star level good at managing the business side of the operation but supposedly he and Bruce didn't get along among other things.   According to Russell among others, Bruce was power hungry and wanted control but at least he did run things.  Now they got no one really filling that role.  

 

 

22 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

I'm more suspicious this AM of what Loverro reported. Nobody else confirmed it since yesterday? Keim? Finley?

 

Getting us all hopeful.

 

Loverro is a reporter and takes that side of the business seriously based on what he's said on different podcasts.  I don't recall him breaking many stories but at the same time I don't recall him being wrong about something in the past.  He's not the type that typically spreads gossip and rumors.  So I do believe he was told what he was told. 

 

It's possible that the source is wrong -- who knows.  His point though seems intuitive.  Cooley said this morning he heard Smith has tried to buy the Titans, too.  At one point he wanted to buy the Redskins.  So the idea that he went for it recently and now wants out -- doesn't strike me much of a leap. 

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11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Loverro is a reporter and takes that side of the business seriously based on what he's said on different podcasts.  I don't recall him breaking many stories but at the same time I don't recall him being wrong about something in the past.  He's not the type that typically spreads gossip and rumors.  So I do believe he was told what he was told. 

 

It's possible that the source is wrong -- who knows.  His point though seems intuitive.  Cooley said this morning he heard Smith has tried to buy the Titans, too.  At one point he wanted to buy the Redskins.  So the idea that he went for it recently and now wants out -- doesn't strike me much of a leap. 

 

But he's not a hitting the streets for the story guy anymore. Cooley saying Smith has tried to buy the Titans is interesting. Like Lurie trying to buy the Patriots before settling on the Eagles.

 

Just feels odd that half a day later and none of the dialed in guys locally or nationally have posted about this. 

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32 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I don't recall him breaking many stories but at the same time I don't recall him being wrong about something in the past.  He's not the type that typically spreads gossip and rumors.  So I do believe he was told what he was told. 

 

to @@SkinsGoldPants point, he doesn't seem like the type to verify anything before reporting it, either. While he may not actively spread rumors or gossip, he is highly prone to overreaction and lazy reporting.

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I'll be honest, I dont put any stock in what Loverro has to say about anything.  He looks like a total slob and sounds like mickey mouse.  Not sure why he would be the media outlet to anyone who works in a sports organization.  Well, maybe Jerry Krause, but thats all I got.

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to @@SkinsGoldPants point, he doesn't seem like the type to verify anything before reporting it, either. While he may not actively spread rumors or gossip, he is highly prone to overreaction and lazy reporting.

 

Disagree. To me he big time seems the type to source.  He prides himself as an old school journalist and he routinely makes fun of people who don't source stuff, especially bloggers.   

 

Loverro's creed, Chad Dukes even used to make fun of it when Loverro made more regular appearances on his radio show -- is how Loverro in his mind blasts that there are so many pseudo journalists who just throw stuff against the wall.  His big thing is he doesn't do hot takes.  And if he has a story, he goes it's properly sourced.  It's practically his mantra.  I associate that with Loverro more than anyone who covers the team because he talks about it almost incessantly.   

 

I get you don't like how he presents himself.  That's fair.  He can be annoying on air.  Arrogant at times.  But he's never been some rumor mongering, fly stuff against the wall type from what I recall.  If anything if I critiqued him it would be the dude almost never has gossip or a scoop.  Even his ex-partner, Sheehan, from time to time has some scoop-gossip.  From what I recall this is rare turf for Loverro as to breaking a story.

 

2 hours ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

But he's not a hitting the streets for the story guy anymore. Cooley saying Smith has tried to buy the Titans is interesting. Like Lurie trying to buy the Patriots before settling on the Eagles.

 

Just feels odd that half a day later and none of the dialed in guys locally or nationally have posted about this. 

 

i am somewhat in the business of on occasion giving scoops to reporters.  From what i'd guess here, Loverro's source is likely not coming from the usual places.  That is, I am guessing it is not from a dude at Redskins Park but someone close to Smith.  I haven't seen anyone shoot it down yet which to me is also revealing. Plenty of journalists if anything take glee to shoot down another's story.  So will see.  I got no idea.  The story though doesn't seem that crazy to me.  Finlay repeated the story though attributed it to Loverro. Loverro got an opportunity to elaborate on it on 106.7 this morning. 

 

Keim was just asked about it on air.  He said he's heard things but can't say anything for certainty. He said it wouldn't surprise him. But he doesn't think there would be any willingness from Dan to sell because the team is part of his identity. 

 

 

 

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