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Pay Attention Knuckleheads

 

 

Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

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  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

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    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.
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On 9/9/2021 at 6:16 AM, Skinsinparadise said:

Dan was the absentee dad so to speak but now we are really going to see him involved with raising the kids.

 

Dan took the kids to strip clubs and the casino on his every other weekend, but now that he has FULL CUSTODY, he's going to be the best dad ever!

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2 hours ago, Tsailand said:

 

How did a team with the worst GM in the league and one of the worst head coaches in the league, go .500 for three years in a row?  We should have gone 3-13, 1-15, 0-16 like the Browns did those three years.

Oh, that's easy: They lucked into an above average QB, and had residual pieces from the Shanahan era before they destroyed them.

 

Kirk, Garcon, DJax, Chris Thompson, etc.  were there through 2016, and Kirk through 2017.

 

Also, in 2014-2016, McVay was still there, and was the OC.  

 

The defense got worse, those years, though, because even if it was bad under Shanahan/Haslett, Jay/Bruce picked worse players and worse coaches, so it deteriorated quickly.

 

The offense was good for the reasons stated above. The wheels came off when they lost their top half of the league starting QB.  Shrug.  

 

 

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Skinsinparadise

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Oh, that's easy: They lucked into an above average QB, and had residual pieces from the Shanahan era before they destroyed them.

 

Kirk, Garcon, DJax, Chris Thompson, etc.  were there through 2016, and Kirk through 2017.

 

Also, in 2014-2016, McVay was still there, and was the OC.  

 

The defense got worse, those years, though, because even if it was bad under Shanahan/Haslett, Jay/Bruce picked worse players and worse coaches, so it deteriorated quickly.

 

The offense was good for the reasons stated above. The wheels came off when they lost their top half of the league starting QB.  Shrug.  

 

 

 

D. Jax was signed by Bruce-Jay.  I don't agree that Shanny picked better players on defense.   His drafts sans Kerrigan and some other rare exceptions were pretty bad and even the Kerrigan pick is checkered considering they passed over Watt to get him so they can land both Kerrigan and J. Jenkins.   FA wasn't hot on defense either for Shanny.  All the failed NTs among other things.  He's lucky he inherited London Fletcher.   Compare his run to Payne, Ionnaidis, J. Alen, K. Fuller, Sweat, etc.  Jay-Bruce weren't hot at defense either but overall > Shanny on that front IMO. 

 

I'll give Oldfan credit for this.  I was pro Shanny from the start, him not so much.  His thing that he used to blast Shanny for was that he was a glorified offensive coordinator but was flawed as a head coach.  He would say he understood the offensive side of the ball very well but struggled in Denver both as for procuring talent on the defensive side of the ball and hiring competent defensive coordinators.  I argued that point some.  He ended up right, I ended up wrong.  

 

I recall the kicker for me when I decided I was out on Shanny and that was when he blamed the defensive woes to injuries and said they were a top 5 defense when healthy.  My thought at the time was yeah right on what planet is this a top 5 defense?  Shanny was a genuis on offense but IMO he's fatal flaw was he fancied himself as a talented evaulator on defense too which IMO he was not -- and he glot slammed by the Denver media for that specifically. 

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There is something utterly comical about Ron Rivera getting brought in to change the culture of the Washington Football Team and one of his first hires becomes the target of a raid by Federal law enforcement. Lmfao just always something with this damn organization...

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Ryan Vermillion putting a whole new twist on "winning off the field"

 

"The opioids are actually damn good" -Team President Ryan Vermillion

 

"Are you talking about all the narcotics and stuff?" -General Manager Ryan Vermillion

 

"No heroin, no diamonds" -QB Ryan Vermillion

 

"The DEA done messed up" -QB Ryan Vermillion

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7 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

There is something utterly comical about Ron Rivera getting brought in to change the culture of the Washington Football Team and one of his first hires becomes the target of a raid by Federal law enforcement. Lmfao just always something with this damn organization...

I mean, for all we know, this actually literally has nothing to do with the team in any way that had any affect on the culture change. The trainer could’ve done something awful outside of work, can’t blame that on the organization. Maybe let’s wait for more details first 

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2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

I mean, for all we know, this actually literally has nothing to do with the team in any way that had any affect on the culture change. The trainer could’ve done something awful outside of work, can’t blame that on the organization. Maybe let’s wait for more details first 

 

When the DEA raids your facility this statement falls apart.

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2 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

When the DEA raids your facility this statement falls apart.

if it’s for him selling drugs outside of work (just guessing) and they were only there to search him/his office, that’s about HIM and has nothing to do with the team, right? How would that be related to the team at all?

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@Cooleyfan1993 DEA raiding team facility = related to the team. Has something to do with the team.

 

Team put out a statement about it. Ron will be asked about it. Players have been interviewed by the feds. Rivera deliberately hired this guy and vouched for him.

 

The head trainer did not travel to Atlanta for a game where several players got injured. Was their quality of care impacted? Who's going to perform the duties of the job now?

 

Say it's not a big deal all you want if you'd like, but it's objectively wrong to say this "isn't related to the team in any way". It is already affecting the team.

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7 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

if it’s for him selling drugs outside of work (just guessing) and they were only there to search him/his office, that’s about HIM and has nothing to do with the team, right? How would that be related to the team at all?

 

I've seen a couple of associates in my business investigated so I know a little about it based on what i was told about those cases. 

 

Based on that, my best guess is if the WFT indeed has nothing to do with the investigation then it could be something like this.   They'd be investigating the trainer by going through his computer records in ALL places he has them.  So that would be confiscating his phone, his home computer and work computer.  His work computer obvioulsy being at the WFT facility.   And when they confiscate a computer they don't just send one agent but send a slew of them as to protocol.   I think part of that is for their own protection in case the culprit they are invesitigating gets violent or they have to deal with any resistance. 

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1 minute ago, CapsSkins said:

@Cooleyfan1993 DEA raiding team facility = related to the team. Has something to do with the team.

 

Team put out a statement about it. Ron will be asked about it. Players have been interviewed by the feds. Rivera deliberately hired this guy and vouched for him.

 

The head trainer did not travel to Atlanta for a game where several players got injured. Was their quality of care impacted? Who's going to perform the duties of the job now?

 

Say it's not a big deal all you want if you'd like, but it's objectively wrong to say this "isn't related to the team in any way". It is already affecting the team.

When i say it has nothing to do with the team in any way, i mean what he possibly did had nothing to do with the team. That’s different than saying what he did is having an affect on the team after the fact. 

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C'mon man.

What? Explain to me how my possible explanation could be wrong. 
 

DEA has to do with drugs, right? If he was possibly selling drugs outside of work on personal time, that has nothing to do with the team. It would however have an affect on the team right now, but that doesn’t mean what he did had something to do with the team itself. 

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6 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

What? Explain to me how my possible explanation could be wrong. 
 

DEA has to do with drugs, right? If he was possibly selling drugs outside of work on personal time, that has nothing to do with the team. It would however have an affect on the team right now, but that doesn’t mean what he did had something to do with the team itself. 

Sure, it's possible he's selling dime bags out of his condo.

 

However, something tells me there's probably more to it than that.  🤣

 

 

 

 

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