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25 minutes ago, Andre The Giant said:

 

 

 

The article gives the impression that the business side of the team is essentially rudderless since he who shall not be named got the boot.

 

Snyder needs to either take charge or hire someone to take over those responsibilities.

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Personally, I like the Washington Warriors.

 

noun
noun: warrior; plural noun: warriors; noun: warrior pose; plural noun: warrior poses
  1. (especially in former times) a brave or experienced soldier or fighter.
     
    We can even keep the fight song with a few minor tweaks.
     
    Hail to the Warriors!
    Hail Victory!
    The brave on the Warpath!
    Fight for old D.C.!
    Run or pass and score—We want a lot more!
    Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,
    Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
    Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won
    Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!
    Hail to the Warriors!
    Hail Victory!
    The brave on the Warpath!
    Fight for old D.C.!
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Careful when choosing Army related names. Although I retired from the Army, I do realize that some of the names have fairly questionable meanings and origins.

 

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Warriors is so bland that it's perfect for the current NFL.

 

I'm sure the NFL's marketing operation will have a big say in this. Don't expect anything edgy or fun. 

 

Also remember, whatever it is has to be able to be trademarked.

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They want something paying tribute to Native Americans and the military:

 

• AH-64 Apache attack helicopter
• UH-60 Black Hawk utility helicopter
• UH-72 Lakota utility helicopter
• CH-47 Chinook heavy-lift transport helicopter
• OH-58 Kiowa observation helicopter, which the Army is considering retiring them
• OH-6 Cayuse observation helicopter
• TH-67 Creek trainer helicopter—the Army may retire them, too
• C-12 Huron transport aircraft
• RU-21 Ute electronic intelligence aircraft, a variant of the C-12
• BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile

• UH-1 Iroquois utility helicopter, retired in 2011
• H-34 Choctaw transport helicopter, left service in early 1970s
• RU-8 Seminole utility aircraft, 1992
• H-21 Shawnee transport helicopter, 1967
• OV-1 Mohawk twin-engine observation aircraft, 1996
• T-41 Mescalero trainer aircraft, no longer in the Army but still flying for the Air Force

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Are they not going to poll fans and see what they think?

 

Wouldn't be surprised if they had been sending out trial balloons on the name through sources for awhile now, especially on twitter.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Are they not going to poll fans and see what they think?

 

Snyder and Ron already have their minds made up, that was all talk when they were saying there would be fan input. At least Abe Pollin pretended to care what tbe fans thought when he changed the Bullets name.

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

Are they not going to poll fans and see what they think?

 

Rivera did mentions two options he likes...maybe we choose between them? 

 

It's hard to have a more open fan vote in 2020 when anyone on the internet can pile on for laughs to troll a man and team they dislike. So narrowing it down to the fewest possible options meansnit can't really be screwed up. 

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Given that it seems likely the name will have both a native American and military component but also not be something that could be construed as a joke (RedTails for ex.)  here are my top candidates:

 

1. Warriors- odds on favorite leading by three lengths at the clubhouse turn

 

2. Braves- meh but works

 

3. Code Talkers- yuck!

 

4. Chinooks- both a helicopter and a Native American tribe

 

5. Apaches- (see above)

 

6. Please give me some help a few of these are potentially god awful team names.

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2 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

Rivera did mentions two options he likes...maybe we choose between them? 

 

It's hard to have a more open fan vote in 2020 when anyone on the internet can pile on for laughs to troll a man and team they dislike. So narrowing it down to the fewest possible options meansnit can't really be screwed up. 

 

That's an excellent point...

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Wasn't the movie about the Code Talkers called Windtalkers (whitewashed to star Nic Cage of course)? Is that a thing? 

 

Would be terrible.

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Tough pill to swallow, as I've always believed we had the coolest name and logo in sports. Any change will be a significant downgrade.

Losing that logo would be just as bad. Hoping they at least keep that.

 

Warriors is just too lame and generic for my taste

Not wanting anything else with "Red".

Call me a pessimist I guess...I don't have any faith Dan and Rivera will come up with anything good.

Would prefer something unique that keeps the logo.

I guess that only leaves Natives? That's my pick so far

 

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

At this rate, I don't care what it is, so long as we stray from the need to "Honor" Natives. You're not honoring anyone naming a football team after them. Just stop with that .

 

I agree. Also against the military-related name. But we have to assume Rivera means what he says and it's in that category unfortunately. 

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1 minute ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Wasn't the movie about the Code Talkers called Windtalkers (whitewashed to star Nic Cage of course)? Is that a thing? 

 

Would be terrible.

 

Yup. Of course Nicolas Cage ruined that like he ruins everything else

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

At this rate, I don't care what it is, so long as we stray from the need to "Honor" Natives. You're not honoring anyone naming a football team after them. Just stop with that .

 

I agree with you whole heartedly but unfortunately our two headed semi-sequestered brain trust has apparently decided otherwise.

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Trying to see why Warriors might be a good choice (don't really like it, but...). I also am starting to understand the desire for an NA-military connection.

 

 

 

These Meaningful Military Traditions Come From Native American Culture

 

Ties to a warrior culture

Many Native American nations have strong roots as warriors. Throughout the modern US, there were tribal clashes, alliances, and outright wars as long as there have been people living here. Tribes fought over territory, horses, and for honor. 

 

Robert Holden, Deputy Director for the National Congress of American Indians, is a veteran and member of the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. He believes that many Native people are still drawn to the warrior mentality of the US military thanks to their cultural heritage.

 

“It’s the warrior cultures,” Holden said. “Warriors have always been in our presence and always will be. . .not only in times of conflict, but in times of peace as well. They became the leaders.”

 

Appropriation or homage?

In recent years, cultural appropriation is a buzzword that seems to be on everyone’s lips. There has been more awareness of how institutions, people, and groups have used racial, cultural, and ethnic stereotypes as an insult or negatively. A prime example is the debate about renaming the Washington Redskins. 

 

So, why are some references to Native Americans considered derogatory and others, well, just fine?

 

It’s the intent behind the naming.

 

The instances in this piece were carefully screened, using sources connected to the Native American or Indian community, to be positive connections. In the case of the aircraft, there was a genuine intent at the outset to reflect the best of the warrior mentality. 

 

There are other instances where a name or an emblem has been used distastefully. Images on a unit insignia or as a squadron nickname that reflect outdated and insulting stereotypes also is evident in the military. There are Scalp Hunters and too many patches that feature very insulting drawings.

 

However, there is also genuine admiration and respect for the tradition of Native American warriors among the US military. We revere the Code Talkers and use the names of brave leaders and nations to denote strength of character and force.

 

 

https://www.military.com/undertheradar/2018/04/16/these-meaningful-military-traditions-come-native-american-culture.html

 

 

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