Mr. Sinister Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I really am starting to not believe they're even the fed. Wouldnt put it past these monsters to just dress up various white supremacists and have them go out and handle their business 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 This is not going to end well in Portland. Ratcheting this situation up to an 11 was not the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Oregon Sues Federal Agencies Over Protest Enforcement The Oregon Department of Justice is suing several federal agencies for civil rights abuses, and state prosecutors will potentially pursue criminal charges against a federal officer who seriously injured a protester. The federal lawsuit names the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals Service, the United States Customs and Border Protection and the Federal Protective Service, agencies that have had a role in stepped-up force used against protesters since early July. The state filed the lawsuit late Friday night. When asked for comment, the U.S. Marshals Service told OPB it does not comment on pending litigation. The lawsuit lists defendants specifically as John Does 1-10 because the “identity of the officers is not known, nor is their agency affiliation,” the lawsuit states. Click on the link for the full article 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, spjunkies said: All kinds of **** would go down if one of these federal cops kidnap some guns rights extremist by mistake. Key point here is the silence by the far-right is because they likely won't expect to be kidnapped themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Trump sees that antagonizing the protesters isn't working for him...so he doubles down on it? How was this idiot ever elected? Does he have an actual strategy for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Key point here is the silence by the far-right is because they likely won't expect to be kidnapped themselves. Oppression of the White man is what drives the hate/fear in a lot of these groups that tend to overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 PCS, The guy getting beat and maced in that thread really must be made of steel. He did not even flinch, just turned, walked back giving them 2 one finger salutes. Even my deadened nervous system would be hard pressed to take that without showing other more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Simmsy said: Does he have an actual strategy for anything? In my experience, ignorant people rarely do. They just meander through life riding on everyone else's knowledge. This is the extreme of that observation, btw. I've never known another human so unwilling to admit being wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Is Oregon a stand your ground state? I would recommend shooting kidnappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Mr. Sinister said: Is Oregon a stand your ground state? I would recommend shooting kidnappers It's a nice thought, but good luck surviving that. You'd need a militia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, PokerPacker said: It's a nice thought, but good luck surviving that. You'd need a militia. Well yeah, but in the 2 vids I've seen since the George Floyd murder, it's been no more than 2 individuals randomly showing up in vehicles, with scores if people standing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Sinister said: Well yeah, but in the 2 vids I've seen since the George Floyd murder, it's been no more than 2 individuals randomly showing up in vehicles, with scores if people standing around. I'd still expect two individuals with the element of surprise to have the upper hand on a private citizen with weapon holstered and presumably out of sight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: I'd still expect two individuals with the element of surprise to have the upper hand on a private citizen with weapon holstered and presumably out of sight. Right, but I wouldn't expect them to have a prayer against a group of 10 or more people. Probably didn't communicate my thoughts well enough. I wouldn't recommend anybody going out and protesting unless it's at least 8-10 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Sinister said: Right, but I wouldn't expect them to have a prayer against a group of 10 or more people. Probably didn't communicate my thoughts well enough. I wouldn't recommend anybody going out and protesting unless it's at least 8-10 of them. Hence my mentioning of a militia. Another option would be for the governor to deploy the National Guard in defense of their citizens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Not a good look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 19 hours ago, PokerPacker said: Hence my mentioning of a militia. Another option would be for the governor to deploy the National Guard in defense of their citizens. I don't know I was hoping we wouldn't get to this point until after the election, common sense would say the closer Trump gets to realizing he doesn't stand a chance in this election the more desperate he will get. What I don't like is him figuring out he can do constitutional **** at least until the courts catch up to him because Congress isn't moving any faster, if at all. As usually, he's practicing why he can get away with. Mussolini formally established his secret police wing after an asassination attempt, Hitler lead to establishing the Gestapo almost as soon as he was elected Chancellor. Trump doesn't have the power he needs to say it out loud like they did, I'm having a hard time processing that many Americans okay with being told to do this for a national implementation. It sounds like trying to nuke Japan into surrender knowing he only has two working nukes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I already know what's going to happen - they're going to try and make the narrative that these police forces are 'true American patriots' fighting back against ANTIFA protestors.....and then the right will fall in line and look the other way like always because they've been labeled ANTIFA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 As Antifa becomes the boogie man of the right, I wonder how many of them would declare themselves "pro facism?" I get not knowing for what Antifa stands( "Anti-Fascism" ). It is just a little funny to me that in their efforts to fight antifa, they are fighting in the side of enabling the fascist/authoritarian tilt of our country. Antifa support does not mean anarchy support. Atleast, this is how I have heard it explained to me. Is it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Well if there's potential for a showdown between locals and feds @Fresh8686 and others,this might be it right here. Mayor Lightfoot doesn't take a lot of ****. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Edited July 20, 2020 by Cooked Crack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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