Destino Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 This one too. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
tshile Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) I’ve basically been bowsing kristol’s feed for the last 10 minutes since I found it. Good stuff. i hope there’s real meaning and intent behind all that stuff. I hope it’s not just fluff. Cause our politicians have failed us miserably. So we don’t have much left Edited June 4, 2020 by tshile 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hersh Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, tshile said: I’ve basically been easing kristol’s feed for the last 10 minutes since I found it i hope there’s real meaning and intent behind all that stuff. I hope it’s not just fluff. Cause our politicians have failed us miserably. So we don’t have much left Maybe it took seeing no GOP senators condemn ****face Trump for gassing American citizens for a photo-op for them to finally hit send to deliver the message. ****face Cotton's op-ed probably helped too in that regard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade7 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Destino said: If you think of it strategically, the reason doesn’t seem like too big a mystery. They don’t want anything that helps protesters resist their efforts and remain in the area. If they want medical aid, they’d prefer this force them to leave. Not saying I agree with it, just that I think I understand why they’d do it. Take it and give it to folks who need it elsewhere. Stabbing water bottles while folks don't have clean water in Flint? They confiscate drugs all the time before destroying them, that wasn't necessary at all, that was sending a message. Whoever approved that message needs to be fired, too. The logic they used was lazy, imo, confiscate, don't destroy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Mattis' statement was amazing. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
mistertim Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 The military leaders basically indirectly contradicting and rebuking Trump publicly with those memos is pretty unprecedented. I'm wondering if him wanting to bring in the military to deal with peaceful protesters will end up backfiring (like most things he does). Will Trump take the hint and realize that the military may very well refuse his orders if they think them illegal or immoral or will he keep pushing? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Jon Jones https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/jon-jones-confronts-vandals-protesters-ufc-new-mexico-video/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TryTheBeal! Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 All progressive movement in the US has always been from the people. By blood and sweat and gold. The idea of a political messiah is a fools errand. For 250+ years... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Destino Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Take it and give it to folks who need it elsewhere. Stabbing water bottles while folks don't have clean water in Flint? They confiscate drugs all the time before destroying them, that wasn't necessary at all, that was sending a message. Whoever approved that message needs to be fired, too. The logic they used was lazy, imo, confiscate, don't destroy. I’d have gone the opposite route and had them ask if they could help these medical tents, share supplies, and give them a line of communication in case a serious injury turns up that needs to be evacuated. Let police j ow where they are so that they aren’t targeted, even if there is nothing they can do to stop tear gas from drifting inside. Democracy is messy but it’s the best system we got. Protests are part of that process. Everyone has to do their part to minimize the damage. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Sinister Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Jon Jones https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/jon-jones-confronts-vandals-protesters-ufc-new-mexico-video/ Bout to get them Israel hands lol 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Barry.Randolphe Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 oh, he mad. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
The Sisko Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Thanks so much @UKskins. You have no idea how uplifting and encouraging it is to see people around the world show up to support not only our struggle, but for the rights of their own marginalized communities as well. The Syrian tribute was especially touching given everything they’ve endured. Nothing can bring George Floyd back, but the **** that murdered him immortalized him 2 hours ago, tshile said: I grew up in a law enforcement house and environment. Majority of our family friends were such through law enforcement. It has taken me a long time to realize just how many awful people are police officers. And it was a rough road. I’ve argued countless times against many in this thread on this subject over the years. And it’s very sad to me because it flies in the face of how I was raised and what I’ve believed for the last 35 years. and it makes me feel like an idiot for believing what I believed and holding onto it for so long. No worries man. I managed to make my way into the Republiklan party for the better part of two decades. We all make mistakes. As for the cops destroying the water and medical aid station, among other things we’ve seen in this and the original thread. Does anyone still think it’s over the top to call them fascists and brown shirts? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Simmsy Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 The police are so stupid. I never thought I would see the day that people of all races, sex, religion, age, demographic, etc would be all in on the anti police rhetoric. Perhaps we've actually turned a corner? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
spjunkies Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I'm not trying to drift too far, but it says a lot about this country that dinosaurs from the 1980's and 90's are still running things. Our society's growth is being held back by their old twisted ways of thinking. We have to do better. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Sinister Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) RIP to people navigating their way through DC for the first time Edited June 4, 2020 by Mr. Sinister 12 Link to post Share on other sites
visionary Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Edited June 4, 2020 by visionary Link to post Share on other sites
Bacon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Los Angeles is already trying to shift $110 million away from the LAPD to social reforms. Should pass it June 8. Long way to go, but you can see how quickly local governments are responding. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: RIP to people navigating their way through DC for the first time It's a GRID. But...traffic circles. Link to post Share on other sites
visionary Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Wait...is the admin viewing DC as a prison? Link to post Share on other sites
RansomthePasserby Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I get how the cops (especially the bad apples who enjoy being bullies) can continue to clash with protesters, but I wonder how long before the National Guard troops start losing motivation? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade7 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Destino said: I’d have gone the opposite route and had them ask if they could help these medical tents, share supplies, and give them a line of communication in case a serious injury turns up that needs to be evacuated. Let police j ow where they are so that they aren’t targeted, even if there is nothing they can do to stop tear gas from drifting inside. Democracy is messy but it’s the best system we got. Protests are part of that process. Everyone has to do their part to minimize the damage. If everyone did the right thing, what a wonderful world this would be, right? Obviously someone told them to keep them from allowing supplies in wrong hands. I'm not going to defend it because it's purely tactical as you noted. If that's what they want to do, which I agree is wrong, don't make it double wrong. There's no "just doing my job" there, they enjoyed that. Edited June 4, 2020 by Renegade7 Link to post Share on other sites
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