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7 hours ago, GibbsGreen11 said:

Joshua Tree, Ca My man retired US Army Vet., part time drinking bud.

My brother (USMC) and I are remodeling a house next door. When the banner went up a few months back, police drove by and scouted.

Always gotta send a scout first before your drive-by.

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Ervin Staub: A Holocaust survivor’s mission to train ‘heroic bystanders’

 

A training programme designed to discourage police misconduct is being adopted across the US after months of protests over the use of excessive force. The Holocaust survivor behind the training believes that, after initial success in one city, it can change police culture nationwide.

 

As World War Two reached its crescendo, the actions of two people left an indelible mark on Dr Ervin Staub's life.

 

Born in Hungary to a Jewish family, he was a six-year-old child when Nazi German forces occupied Hungary in 1944. At the behest of the Nazis, hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were rounded up and deported to extermination camps.

 

Two decisive interventions ensured Dr Staub and his family did not meet the same fate.

 

A woman named Maria Gogan hid him and his one-year-old sister with a Christian family.

 

After enduring the war, and a decade of communism in Hungary, Dr Staub fled via Vienna to the US, where he studied the psychology of violence, genocide and morality. He did a PhD on the topic at Stanford University and taught at Harvard University, before applying his theories on harm prevention to experiments and field research.

 

The training, called Ethical Policing Is Courageous (EPIC), encourages officers to intervene if they see misconduct within their ranks. It was first introduced by the police force in the Louisiana city of New Orleans in 2014.

 

Crucially, it emphasises the responsibility, not of the perpetrator, but of bystanders. Every officer is reminded of their duty to act if they see bad behaviour, repudiating the so-called blue wall of silence. This ethos upends the way officers traditionally think about loyalty to their partners.

 

"Loyalty isn't saying, 'well, you've done something wrong, I'm going to protect you'," Lisa Kurtz, an innovation manager at the New Orleans Police Department (NOPD), told the BBC. "Loyalty is me saying, 'you're about to do something wrong, and I'm going to stop you'."

 

Ernest Luster, a veteran NOPD officer, said the training has completely changed the dynamic of policing in the city.

 

Even Mr Luster, an EPIC trainer, can recall an incident when he struggled to keep his emotions in check. He almost hit a handcuffed man who had resisted arrest for trespassing.

 

"At that moment, a rookie cop walks over to me. He puts his hands on my chest, and immediately I thought about EPIC. Just like that. And I walked away. Now, had he not done that, I could have lost my job for excessive force."

 

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57 minutes ago, clietas said:

 

Saw this earlier at my brothers house. My question is who paid his bail? 

 

My guess is Right/Far Right leaning folks with deep pockets (of which there are many). Maybe stoken funds of some kind.

 

Clearly no good person/persons would do this.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

My guess is Right/Far Right leaning folks with deep pockets (of which there are many). Maybe stoken funds of some kind.

 

Clearly no good person/persons would do this.

 

Most likely you're right. Some type of fundraising. Tho my first thought was the Minneapolis Police Union.

 

 

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7 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

 


so this kid walked into a mall with a loaded stolen gun and threatened someone with it (promoting many calls to 911).  When confronted by police he ran and fired the gun while running.  Police then shot him while he still held the gun.  There’s no video of the actual shooting, but there’s no real dispute of the central facts of the case.  
 

What am I missing here, what about this merits outrage?  

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