Welcome to the Redskins Antonio Gibson, RB/WR Memphis

[wit33]

The team can be a power running team in shotgun sets with him in the backfield; immense value as it opens up so much for Turner, IMO. He’s shifty enough to make things in tight spaces and has tremendous power to help stay ahead of the chains. 
 

The RPO slant/hand-off to Terry/Gibson could be a staple for years to come if these two continue their upward trends and remain healthy. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by wit33

[tibbidoe]

15 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Same. I didn’t love the pick. I thought we should have gone for a real building block versus a gadget type player, but they very obviously had a plan to turn him into a three down back and so far the results speak for themselves. The emergence of Logan also helped alleviate my annoyance of not drafting a TE in that spot.

 

True. A career year from Thomas did help.

 

3 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

Kudos to you, for tolding yourself so

 

 

Yup. I can admit that I'm occasionally wrong.

[XxSpearheadxX]

9 minutes ago, wit33 said:

The team can be a power running team in shotgun sets with him in the backfield; immense value as it opens up so much for Turner, IMO. He’s shifty enough to make things in tight spaces and has tremendous power to help stay ahead of the chains. 
 

The RPO slant/hand-off to Terry/Gibson could be a staple for years to come if these two continue their upward trends and remain healthy. 

The shotgun sets with McKissic, Gibson, Logan Thomas, Mclaurin and whatever other reciever on the field at the same time are our most dangerous and difficult to defend by far. They are getting better at the non shotgun sets also. 

Edited January 3, 2021 by XxSpearheadxX

[wit33]

30 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said:

The shotgun sets with McKissic, Gibson, Logan Thomas, Mclaurin and whatever other reciever on the field at the same time are our most dangerous and difficult to defend by far. They are getting better at the non shotgun sets also. 

Love Alex as a player pre injury and believe his value this year has been immense, but imagine that personnel with an above average athlete at QB (pre injury Alex would’ve been dynamic). Alex still remains dynamic in the short game and pre and post snap reads, a high ceiling still remains with this trio, IMO. 
 

Gibson is in the beginning of his journey of running the ball under center, we’ll see. 

[Commander -JB-]

Need to pound the rock over & over & over again.  Last week they were just pounding Carolina into submission & then drop Haskins back & he’d make horrendous decisions ruining drives.  Have to stick with the run!

[Dark Acre]

Have there been any plays where Gibson motions out of the backfield to the line (as in WR) and then takes an end around?  If the D has to respect his ball-carrying and his route-running, it opens up a lot of options.  Did anyone say option?  Can he throw a catchable ball anywhere?  Make Sweat a 2-way red zone option at TE and Madden will go crazy.  I kind of want to see Chase Y. return punts and kickoffs.  It'd be like the Running of the Bulls in Pamploma - no one wants to be in the way of that stampede.  Yeah, I know (see Jason Seehorn), but..., you know what Joe Bostic said about Darrell Green...!  All this AND we've got: the absence of Haskins; our first round draft pick (wherever it is), Chase freakin' the Exciter Young and his all-star orchestra of Daron Payne, Jon Allen, Montez Sweat, Tim Settle; Terry McLaurin; A. Gibson.  AND AND, and we're getting back Matt Ioanidis next year.  Man, there's been mostly a reign of futility with Snyder, but every once in awhile someone brings some new hopium to town and we lap that stuff up.  Helluva a drug.  But thanks to guys like the ones who are coming here now, we may well be able to break our addiction to hopium with regular sessions of taking care of business.

[Malapropismic Depository]

 

 

[Malapropismic Depository]

I was confused too, @Koolblue13 , for the same reason 😆

[Malapropismic Depository]

Being in the company of S. Barkley is not a bad thing.

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Malapropismic Depository

[Riggo#44]

 

[Koolblue13]

I really think he is going to break out in a huge way this year. Our Line is better and he's had the time to study and practice like a RB for a full year. All the speed we added at WR, plus a blocker like Bates, you can't just load up against him.

[Llevron]

24 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I really think he is going to break out in a huge way this year. Our Line is better and he's had the time to study and practice like a RB for a full year. All the speed we added at WR, plus a blocker like Bates, you can't just load up against him.

 

This is really what I'm hoping is the key cog in our O this year. If he can break out we are going to be a nasty nasty team to deal with. 

[Warhead36]

I really feel like he can be a Kamara like player for us. I want to see him moved around all over the field.

[wit33]

3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I really feel like he can be a Kamara like player for us. I want to see him moved around all over the field.

I agree to some extent, but his ability to line up next to the QB in shotgun sets and provide a legit power run game is extremely valuable. Rather Mckissic and Samuel be in the joker role. 

[Llevron]

9 minutes ago, wit33 said:

I agree to some extent, but his ability to line up next to the QB in shotgun sets and provide a legit power run game is extremely valuable. Rather Mckissic and Samuel be in the joker role. 

 

His ability to line up anywhere is a legit threat and you have to use it for people to plan for it. And everything they have to spend time planning for is a weakness we can exploit. I think thats the idea, anyway.  

[HTTRDynasty]

 

[wit33]

23 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

His ability to line up anywhere is a legit threat and you have to use it for people to plan for it. And everything they have to spend time planning for is a weakness we can exploit. I think thats the idea, anyway.  

I just don’t think it will be as much as some may want, due to his unique ability to run with power in the gun formation. He puts a lot of pressure on a defense out of that set and once he’s motioned out that unique threat is gone. I like him more as a check down, screen or option route guy underneath. Don’t need the bell cow for running fly patterns or slants and expending energy.
 

Not that it shouldn’t ever happen, but he’s not a Kamara due to his responsibility to be the bell cow back. Kamara is a guy expected to carry 12-14 and catch 6-8 a game versus Gibson carry 18-22 and catch 2-4. 

[skinny21]

9 minutes ago, wit33 said:

I just don’t think it will be as much as some may want, due to his unique ability to run with power in the gun formation. He puts a lot of pressure on a defense out of that set and once he’s motioned out that unique threat is gone. I like him more as a check down, screen or option route guy underneath. Don’t need the bell cow for running fly patterns or slants and expending energy.
 

Not that it shouldn’t ever happen, but he’s not a Kamara due to his responsibility to be the bell cow back. Kamara is a guy expected to carry 12-14 and catch 6-8 a game versus Gibson carry 18-22 and catch 2-4. 

Yeah, to me it’s a situational thing as he could handle either role.  If we’d drafted a bell cow like Harris, we could flex Gibson out a lot more, but with McKissick as the other contributor, it makes more sense for Gibson to be in the backfield.

[Llevron]

28 minutes ago, wit33 said:

I just don’t think it will be as much as some may want, due to his unique ability to run with power in the gun formation. He puts a lot of pressure on a defense out of that set and once he’s motioned out that unique threat is gone. I like him more as a check down, screen or option route guy underneath. Don’t need the bell cow for running fly patterns or slants and expending energy.
 

Not that it shouldn’t ever happen, but he’s not a Kamara due to his responsibility to be the bell cow back. Kamara is a guy expected to carry 12-14 and catch 6-8 a game versus Gibson carry 18-22 and catch 2-4. 

 

I feel you. But that bring me to the idea that it will depend on the team we are playing and how best to hurt them. He can do a lot on the football field. Limiting him based on anything but what the other team is able to stop would be irresponsible to me. 

 

Also im a idiot. I think a lot of stuff and have a lot of theories, but I generally dont know anything about football. 

[wit33]

24 minutes ago, skinny21 said:

Yeah, to me it’s a situational thing as he could handle either role.  If we’d drafted a bell cow like Harris, we could flex Gibson out a lot more, but with McKissick as the other contributor, it makes more sense for Gibson to be in the backfield.

 

Its also a lot to do with me believing he has special ability to provide power in gun sets like I’ve never really seen before. He provides an under center feel to the run game in a finesse set. 

 

7 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

I feel you. But that bring me to the idea that it will depend on the team we are playing and how best to hurt them. He can do a lot on the football field. Limiting him based on anything but what the other team is able to stop would be irresponsible to me. 
 

 

Oh ya, I agree. Not saying it should be an all or nothing type thing. I want to see him split out to expose a matchup/assist the QB in decoding the defense. 

 

7 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

Also im a idiot. I think a lot of stuff and have a lot of theories, but I generally dont know anything about football. 

Lol, total fan view on my part as well. Not expertise or mastery of the subject. 

[terpfan]

6 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

This is an anecdotal observation on my part, but it certainly feels like he was used more in short yardage and goal line situations as the year went on. That stat would indicate he is very viable in those situations and he certainly has the size for it. Hopefully he doesn't have to come off the field in those situations this year for a guy like Peyton Barber, who gives you so much less explosive ability and not much value in any other aspect of the game... so would be nice not to have to tie up a roster spot in a player like that.

 

Also, Gibson needs all the goal line work he can get to pad his stats for a Pro Bowl appearance.

[Burgundy Yoda]

25 minutes ago, terpfan said:

This is an anecdotal observation on my part, but it certainly feels like he was used more in short yardage and goal line situations as the year went on. That stat would indicate he is very viable in those situations and he certainly has the size for it. Hopefully he doesn't have to come off the field in those situations this year for a guy like Peyton Barber, who gives you so much less explosive ability and not much value in any other aspect of the game... so would be nice not to have to tie up a roster spot in a player like that.

 

Also, Gibson needs all the goal line work he can get to pad his stats for a Pro Bowl appearance.

Gibson has a great nose for the endzone. He felt nearly automatic there before he got turf toe, I can definitely see him putting up high tier TD numbers, like 15+.

[FootballZombie]

You want another guy like Barber taking those short yard reps. Gibby had like 35 rushing touches in college, total. His body is not built or prepared to handle that level of carnage. We saw that in the cornucopia of nagging injuries he picked up.

 

While Gibson is very strong and can get you those short yard situations, about 40 of Barber's 90 carries were pure "Don't kill Gibby by making him run thru jumbos" looks. 

 

Its cool to give Gibson some goalline looks, as that is the money area, but you don't want to send your guy into a guaranteed car crash several times a game. Not when he does not sport a history that says he can handle that kind of workload. If giving a few other guys some TDs gives me a healthy RB, I'll take that tradeoff.

 

[terpfan]

2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

You want another guy like Barber taking those short yard reps. Gibby had like 35 rushing touches in college, total. His body is not built or prepared to handle that level of carnage. We saw that in the cornucopia of nagging injuries he picked up.

 

While Gibson is very strong and can get you those short yard situations, about 40 of Barber's 90 carries were pure "Don't kill Gibby by making him run thru jumbos" looks. 

 

Its cool to give Gibson some goalline looks, as that is the money area, but you don't want to send your guy into a guaranteed car crash several times a game. Not when he does not sport a history that says he can handle that kind of workload. If giving a few other guys some TDs gives me a healthy RB, I'll take that tradeoff.

 

This is a fair point and I’m not necessarily suggesting Gibson get every short yardage carry or significantly more overall work than he had last year. But for critical short yardage situations, I’d prefer him on the field to Peyton Barber. And it would be nice not to HAVE to carry a RB specifically for short yardage, if said RB doesn’t provide much value otherwise. Maybe someone like Jaret Patterson gives you higher upside and a more well rounded skill set. 

[FootballZombie]

7 minutes ago, terpfan said:

 

 

Agreed, and all that could drastically change next year, but for now, as long as RB2 is 195lb McK, than RB3 has to be able to give you short yardage ability and anything else is just bonus.