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Update - 3/11/21 - America Rescue Plan Bill is signed!


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3 hours ago, Busch1724 said:

Hell I didn't get the 600 yet. 

 

1 hour ago, TheDoyler23 said:


Yea, I checked into mine and it like “claim in on your taxes when you file.” 
 

Good thing I’m not hard up for the money, like many. 

 

Just make sure you qualified. That 600 phased out faster than the previous 1200. 

 

Total phase out would have been be 87k single and 174k joint agi.

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Biden extends mortgage relief, moratorium on foreclosures

 

The Biden administration Tuesday announced it's extending the moratorium on home foreclosures and the enrollment window for mortgage forbearance through June.

 

Why it matters: Many Americans have struggled to make home payments during the COVID-19 pandemic. Both programs were set to expire in March. The actions are an extension of a program the Trump administration started in 2020.

 

The departments of Housing and Urban Development, Veterans Affairs, and Agriculture will carry out the executive action, per the White House.


The new relief will provide up to six months of additional mortgage payment forbearance, in three-month increments, for borrowers who entered the program on or before June 30, 2020.

 

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Targeting Mid March for $1400:  https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/expect-next-stimulus-check-dates-230400228.html

 

 

Manchin has voiced support for dropping the income limit for stimulus checks. Individuals earning up to $75,000 were eligible for a full payment in the last two rounds, but Manchin has said he wants proof that someone making $75,000 is needy enough to receive the entire $1,400 this time.

If Democratic Senate leaders can keep Manchin in the fold, they may try to send the legislation directly to the Senate floor with no committee votes, according to the Washington newsletter Punchbowl News.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the goal is to have a bill on the president's desk in time to avoid a lapse in bonus unemployment money for millions of Americans. The existing federal booster benefits expire on Sunday March 14 (big deadline).

Provided there are no unexpected roadblocks — and Biden is able to sign the bill during the first part of March — the IRS could start churning out stimulus check payments within days. That means you might receive your next infusion of cash as soon as mid-March.

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Oh no, they're irked.  The horror.

 

GOP irked after last-ditch attempt fails to deter Biden push for quick passage of Covid relief plan

 

It was Super Bowl Sunday -- and President Joe Biden was on the phone with Sen. Susan Collins.

 

The Maine Republican had tried to make an urgent plea to the new president: Abandon the idea of going it alone with just Democrats on the $1.9 trillion relief bill and instead continue working on a bipartisan deal.


Biden, two sources familiar with the call said, was sounding out Collins, speaking freely to her and leaving the Republican with the distinct impression that he was receptive to deal-cutting with the GOP.


But the call quickly turned south after White House staff chimed in, with Collins and White House economic adviser Brian Deese engaging in an exchange about housing funding in the proposal -- and the Senate Republican contending there was outstanding money yet to be spent.


The end result: No deal, reaffirming Biden's view that the Republican approach was far too meager for the economic and public health crises at hand.

 

The previously unreported exchange illustrates the dilemma facing Biden as he tries to govern on his campaign promise of unifying the country while also navigating a sharply divided Congress that his party narrowly controls. After ultimately greenlighting a budget process that will allow Democrats to push through his massive plan without GOP support, Democrats plan to approve the sweeping bill in the House this week, a major step to achieving a central part of Biden's domestic agenda.


But Republicans, still irked by the lack of progress in the short-lived bipartisan talks, see a President who is hamstrung by both White House staff and Democrats in Congress whom they believe have far less interest in working with the GOP and seem more willing to advance their agenda without regard for the minority party. Republicans' argument: Biden seems willing to cut a deal but won't do so because of pressure from the people around him.

 

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The problem with a bi partisan approach to this specific bill is the same reason it was nearly impossible for bi partisanship on the HCR bill.  The GOP does not want it to happen in the first place.  They are being bad faith negotiators.  Not all of them, but a significant amount.  I read today they are going to try and come up with a strategy of listing all the "liberal goodies" in the package to try and sway public opinion.  So by this time in two weeks watch how many people GOP voters will magically turn against stimulus checks for themselves because for example, "mixed households" (meaning a spouse is an undocumented worker) also might get the checks too.....OH THE HORROR!


The Dems need to get real about this and give a hard deadline on it that they won't budge on, and lay out the terms of which they will not bend on.

 

Only the Dems can take a piece of legislation that is popular across the board and drag their feet on it, allowing the GOP to poison public opinion on it once again.  No GOP voter is going to be cashing their $1400 check while simultaneously angry at Biden/Dems that the GOP wasn't involved enough.  It is such an empty threat of an idea.

 

Come on already.

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7 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Or the Dems could just drop all the liberal goodies and make it solely about getting money in the hands of the people, and put it back on the GOP.

 

Well I am not even sure I agree with the "liberal goodies" narrative anyway.  I only used that term as it was what was being quoted in the article by a GOP strategist.   I wouldn't say aid to farmers or mixed households getting checks are "liberal goodies" in the first place, to be honest. I am sure some of the GOP feels the entire bill is a liberal goodie to begin with.  

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Well I am not even sure I agree with the "liberal goodies" narrative anyway.  I only used that term as it was what was being quoted in the article by a GOP strategist.   I wouldn't say aid to farmers or mixed households getting checks are "liberal goodies" in the first place, to be honest

I’m not familiar with what’s in it, but if it’s anything like most bills, there is pork in there.  

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He is ****ed no matter what he does. So let's at least try not to piss of the people the voted FOR him. We all know the Rep idea of unity is they get their way. 

 

So just pass it and let the GOP explain to the American population why they were against it while people are cashing their check and the economy begins a major resurgence. 

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1 hour ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

Why take the min wage out of it? 
 

 

 

I read that if they included that they couldn’t use the procedural vote thing to allow a simple majority to pass in the senate.... 

 

Honestly though if they did pass it it would just result in it taking longer to get people employed, but I’m sure there will be people who argue no job is better than a minimum wage job....

 

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1 hour ago, NoCalMike said:

 

Well I am not even sure I agree with the "liberal goodies" narrative anyway.  I only used that term as it was what was being quoted in the article by a GOP strategist.   I wouldn't say aid to farmers or mixed households getting checks are "liberal goodies" in the first place, to be honest. I am sure some of the GOP feels the entire bill is a liberal goodie to begin with.  

 

It's a sea of elected GOPers who watched their party fail the economy again. They're complaints should be ignored or at most met with a "these are unserious people who have no track record of real long lasting economic results in their lifetimes." and move the **** on. You're likely to lose the ability you have now in 2 years. No regrets. Do as much as you can now. 

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GOP not worried about voting against popular relief bill

 

Republicans are dismissing the idea that they'll be punished at the ballot box for voting against President Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package.

 

The relief measure is expected to get few, if any, GOP votes as it moves through Congress in the coming weeks. Democrats are trying to pressure Republicans into voting for the package, touting polls that show it's popular with the public.

 

Republicans counter that much of the bill is focused on Democrats' longstanding priorities rather than coronavirus relief. And strategists note that it's unclear whether voters will be thinking about the relief package closer to the midterm elections, which are more than a year and a half away. 

 

“I don’t see any risk to Republicans at all opposing this, especially as it relates to the 2022 election,” said Ford O'Connell, a Republican strategist and former congressional candidate in Florida.

 

Democrats are hoping their relief package will be signed into law in the next few weeks, giving Biden a major legislative win early in his presidency. The House is expected to vote on the bill this week.

 

House Republican leadership is whipping against the relief package, arguing the bill isn’t targeted and includes Democratic priorities unrelated to the coronavirus. Specifically, they’re criticizing aid to state and local governments and a provision to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. 

 

“It’s clear Democrats have no interest in approaching COVID relief in a timely and targeted fashion and are instead using the reconciliation process to jam through their liberal wish list agenda,” House Minority Whip Steve Scalise’s (R-La.) whip team wrote Friday in an email to Republican lawmakers.

 

Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) office responded with a statement saying that while Americans are in need, “House Republicans don’t care.”

 

Democrats are using the budget reconciliation process to move the relief package, meaning no GOP votes are required so long as Democrats stick together. Republicans say the use of reconciliation is a sign Democrats aren’t interested in bipartisanship.

 

The White House has responded to questions about whether they think support from GOP lawmakers is unlikely by pointing to polls showing support for the relief package, warning that GOP lawmakers who vote against it are going against their constituents. 

 

“The vast majority of the American people like what they see in this package. And that should be an indication, or should be noted by members of Congress as they consider whether they're going to vote for it or not,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a briefing last week.

 

The Quinnipiac poll found that 68 percent of adults back Biden’s proposal, while 24 percent are opposed. The bill had majority support from both Democrats and independents. Among Republicans, 47 percent said they opposed it, 37 percent said they supported it and 16 percent said they didn’t know or didn’t have an opinion.

 

A key provision in the bill, and one that has substantial public support, involves the $1,400 stimulus payments. In the Navigator Research poll, the majority of Americans, including half of Republicans, called the direct payments the most convincing reason to pass the bill. In the Quinnipiac poll, the stimulus checks received majority support from Democrats, Republicans and independents.

 

Republicans are nonetheless moving forward with opposition to the measure, unveiled Friday afternoon by the House Budget Committee, arguing it will be ineffective at spurring an economic recovery from the pandemic.

 

“House Democrats’ $2 trillion socialist boondoggle puts partisan politics first and fails to address the most pressing needs facing Americans, like getting kids back in the classroom and reopening small businesses,” said Torunn Sinclair, a spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee, the House GOP’s campaign arm. 

 

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2 hours ago, China said:

 

 

Republicans are nonetheless moving forward with opposition to the measure, unveiled Friday afternoon by the House Budget Committee, arguing it will be ineffective at spurring an economic recovery from the pandemic.

 

“House Democrats’ $2 trillion socialist boondoggle puts partisan politics first and fails to address the most pressing needs facing Americans, like getting kids back in the classroom and reopening small businesses,” said Torunn Sinclair, a spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee, the House GOP’s campaign arm. 

 

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So I guess that means the majority of American are in favor of a socialist boondoggle.  The $1400 is not designed to "spur the economy" so much as give people a tiny bit of relief considering how little they received in the previous 10 months.  

 

If I was Biden, the minute business start re-opening on any kind of "wide-scale" I would demand another stimulus.  Easy to explain too: "Businesses are back open, but the consumers are still in need coming out of 18+ months of the pandemic.  Those businesses re-opening need customers.  Get money into the hands of consumers now and jump start the re-opening of the economy"  easy enough explanation, hard to go against, and it would likely be happening a lot closer to the mid-terms.  And if the Dems really want to get saucy, explain that the stimulus will partially/largely be paid for by rescinding Trump's tax cut on the wealthy.

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11 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

 

So I guess that means the majority of American are in favor of a socialist boondoggle.  The $1400 is not designed to "spur the economy" so much as give people a tiny bit of relief considering how little they received in the previous 10 months.  

 

If I was Biden, the minute business start re-opening on any kind of "wide-scale" I would demand another stimulus.  Easy to explain too: "Businesses are back open, but the consumers are still in need coming out of 18+ months of the pandemic.  Those businesses re-opening need customers.  Get money into the hands of consumers now and jump start the re-opening of the economy"  easy enough explanation, hard to go against, and it would likely be happening a lot closer to the mid-terms.  And if the Dems really want to get saucy, explain that the stimulus will partially/largely be paid for by rescinding Trump's tax cut on the wealthy.

Another part of the new stimulus is an increase of the additional UI to $400/week through August 29th. That's an increase of $100/week and an extension past the current deadline of march 13th for anybody receiving UI.

 

I like your idea and would add the next stimulus include (more) money for the small businesses reopening. 

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