KDawg Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 The rising numbers doesn't mean much right now to be honest. As someone who lives in NY tests are just recently (this week) becoming steadily available. Obviously, the more testing you do the more the numbers are going to rise. I think almost every country's numbers are MUCH higher for being COVID-19 positive than the reports indicate. Hospitalizations rise with the number of people who are confirmed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 the spike in cases is expected and easily explained by the testing backlog the deaths and hospitalizations and need to dispatch a naval hospital ship already... that's just confirming what many of us have been saying would happen for a while now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: The rising numbers doesn't mean much right now to be honest. As someone who lives in NY tests are just recently (this week) becoming steadily available. Obviously, the more testing you do the more the numbers are going to rise. I think almost every country's numbers are MUCH higher for being COVID-19 positive than the reports indicate. Hospitalizations rise with the number of people who are confirmed. Hospitalizations spike because they are severe cases. They aren’t going to take up a valuable bed unless the patient needs it. That’s not indicative of a testing increase being responsible for the case increase. That’s indicative of a massive number of infected people in the state. Just extrapolating some back of napkin numbers. Estimates are 10% of cases result in hospitalization. Also that it’s *roughly* two weeks from infection date to hospitalization date. And case doubling every 4 days. 500 hospitalizations today means 5,000 infections two weeks ago. Doubling rate means there were 10k cases 10 days ago, 20k six days ago, 40k two days ago, and 80k two days from now. With a 10% hospitalization rate. We’re gonna need more hospital ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) @tshile I appreciate your comments on NBA players getting tested, I re-evamuated my position. I just found this article and felt like sharing https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-testing-rich-people/608062/ Edited March 18, 2020 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Holy ****. they’re invoking the national production act. also the administration is finally telling people being young doesnt ****ing matter. that was known at least a week ago but we’ve continue to push this nonsense that only elderly people are seriously impacted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, tshile said: Holy ****. they’re invoking the national production act. also the administration is finally telling people being young doesnt ****ing matter. that was known at least a week ago but we’ve continue to push this nonsense that only elderly people are seriously impacted. We knew it was coming and we wasted so much ****ing time. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, skinsfan_1215 said: We knew it was coming and we wasted so much ****ing time. Yup. our government has failed us in an incredible way. hope there are some lessons learned here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I'm just glad everyone (on the political front at least) finally seem to be taking this seriously. One of the historian on MSNBC compared this to the challenges facing the country during WWII. Same type of response is going to be needed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 CMS is going to direct hospitals to stop all non-essential surgeries, medical and dental procedures For those that don't understand, this is huge. Surgeries are to hospitals what NCAA basketball and football are to NCAA sports; they support the system. Hospitals mostly make their money from surgeries. Surgeons get away with a lot more **** than anyone else in the hospital politics because they're the money makers. Hospitals will be (and have been) reluctant to shut those down because of that fact. it's wrong, you know it's wrong, but this is how people behave. Direction from the federal government to shut it down and shut it down now takes that decision making away from the hospital. It allows members of their leadership team, that have asking to implement this for days/weeks now and have been shot down because of the money aspect, to finally start prepping their surgical units (including staff) for how to take care of COVID-19 patients. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Why do people watch these press conferences and comment on Trump having the correct tone? He's more somber but he's still spewing bull****. How are people being confided by this? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 *screams into the void* 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Why do people watch these press conferences and comment on Trump having the correct tone? He's more somber but he's still spewing bull****. How are people being confided by this? He blamed this mess on Obamas admin and said that its a fact of life that the well connected get better treatment. Crazy ****. But he sounds less like a douche bag so lets congratulate him. Ill never understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Why do people watch these press conferences and comment on Trump having the correct tone? He's more somber but he's still spewing bull****. How are people being confided by this? If you start with the premise that people are stupid, it clears things up pretty quick 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, tshile said: Holy ****. they’re invoking the national production act. We should have done this a month ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Has anyone asked him about Fox News’ early handling of this, the impact of his derision of news outlets, and the polls showing the percentage of people that are taking it seriously/not seriously among political demographics? Probably a waste of time I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I googled national production act and for defense production act. What’s up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Springfield said: I googled national production act and for defense production act. What’s up? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, skinny21 said: Has anyone asked him about Fox News’ early handling of this, the impact of his derision of news outlets, and the polls showing the percentage of people that are taking it seriously/not seriously among political demographics? Probably a waste of time I guess.... They seem to be tackling one or two major controversial per press conference. Why he keeps calling it Chinese Virus came up, and he said it was to defend America from the propaganda China is putting out that US made it. No one made it, it came from China. I don't agree with still calling it that, that's just his reasoning Edited March 18, 2020 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, tshile said: CMS is going to direct hospitals to stop all non-essential surgeries, medical and dental procedures What is CMS? And am I the only one that finds "Kung Flu" at least a little funny? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, tshile said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act Ok, same thing I was googling. Any thoughts on what the president wishes to control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) Stock market halted, limit-down 7%. Restarts in 15 minutes. Edited March 18, 2020 by FanboyOf91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 You read that correctly, -12%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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