Dr. Do Itch Big Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: stupidity is corona's best friend People attend wizards games? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, visionary said: This is ****ing ridiculous. When the president speaks, people listen and do as he says. Trump is the president and he is responsible for cutting our budgets and not preparing us for this, and not only not reacting fast enough, but making things much worse with his attempts to coverup and deny what was happening publicly and through policy. Maybe 20 percent listen to him. 20 percent laugh, and 60 percent absolutely hate him. How so you think this would have turned out if the CDC funding wasn’t cut? Did Italy and China also cut CDC funding? Edited March 11, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Trump says crazy things, and people mistake what he says for US policy. So it makes it seem like we are doing a terrible job. The President of the United States doesnt speak for the policy decisions of the executive branch? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, bcl05 said: Trump (and his administration) are doing an objectively terrible, ineffective, self-serving, short-sighted, and dishonest job of addressing this. So pretty much how they've handled every other topic over the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PF Chang Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 This embarrassing administration has finally run into a problem you can't lie your way out of. There's no CNN to blame here. The President is a giant toddler, the emperor has no clothes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Offices In Reston just ‘Strongly advised’ we remote work indefinitely starting tomorrow. Building will still be open though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: People attend wizards games? Warriors eliminated before the Wizards this year, is the basement in your new arena even finished yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: You probably already said it, but what actions do you want them to take that they aren’t taking? Not being a smart ass, your last point about the reasons for quarantine were enlightening. 1. Not cut funding to CDC pandemic response team 2. Recognize the failure of CDC to produce acceptable testing capacity and incentivize/enable other clinical labs to produce testing. This is kind of happening now, but about a month too late. 3. Not continuously lie and spread misinformation, eroding trust that people have in expertise and limiting people's response to expert- and data-driven recommendations 4. Treat this as an emergency and lead. Trump has the largest megaphone on the planet, and his messaging was that they had it under control, business as usual, nothing to see here. If he called this an emergency in January, and acted accordingly, we could have prevented this. Now, we have a significant percentage of the population who think this is a liberal conspiracy hoax. This is his fault, and highly detrimental to any efforts to control the spread. 5. Collect and report accurate data - meaning testing broadly any and all persons who may have contacted this virus. It is far too late to do this now, but early in the course it could have identified and prevented spread. His interest in keeping numbers down and ignoring the problem made it vastly worse than it had to. 6. Listen to Anthony Fauci, not Larry Kudlow. 7. Make Fauci (or someone else with real expertise) in "charge" of this, not the science-denying Mike Pence. The list could go on and on, but I have patients to go see. When a problem is increasing exponentially, the time to act is when it feels far too early. This is a basic fact of math and epidemiology. He doesn't get that, at all. Fundamentally, I simply wish he was honest and smart. He is obviously, transparently, neither. He hasn't been, at any point in his presidency, so I recognize that my wish is folly. I suspect these answers are blatantly obvious to any objective observer. Edited March 11, 2020 by bcl05 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExoDus84 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said: People attend wizards games? Someone did once... I'm sure of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 some Trump supporter thoughts on the virus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bearrock Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: Maybe 20 percent listen to him. 20 percent laugh, and 60 percent absolutely hate him. How so you think this would have turned out if the CDC funding wasn’t cut? Did Italy and China also cut CDC funding? Maybe we would have more working tests for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: You probably already said it, but what actions do you want them to take that they aren’t taking? Not being a smart ass, your last point about the reasons for quarantine were enlightening. Not saying it's like the flu. That today there are 5, tomorrow there will be 1 case. That the vaccine should be ready soon. That people should still go to work. Not try to pass a payroll tax cut. Or push for a fed rate cut. How about be a leader? How about use your soap box to push what the experts are saying, so people listen and get it. He has done pretty much everything wrong. Because he's a clown. Stop excusing clown behavior. And if you're going to say you're not excusing it, yes you are. That's what you do when you pretend there's nothing he could have done right, or that what he did wrong doesn't matter because people don't listen to him. Or any of the number of dumb things you've said on the topic. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: How so you think this would have turned out if the CDC funding wasn’t cut? Did Italy and China also cut CDC funding? That's an impossible question to answer. It is reasonable, however, to assume that cutting the CDC's budget and specifically outlining outbreak prevention and overseas posts for outbreaks did not help and likely hurt their abilities. And the thing is, the move was chided hard core when it happened. The only people who shrugged it off are republicans/conservatives/tumpers The people now pretending it didn't matter, cause they can't bring themselves to admit maybe they were wrong on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, Destino said: Real talk, is it time for me to stop playing basketball? I hate the idea of giving up my weekly games. I'm not going to quit working out but the struggle is real 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: NCAA President Mark Emmert statement on limiting attendance at NCAA events Actually surprised. I guess I shouldn't be since the real money is in TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 You know, I thought about that earlier. Prostitutes/call girls/manginas, strippers, all other pleasures of the flesh. Gotta be tough. That being said, people probably didn't stop throwing **** during the Plague either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Mr. Sinister said: You know, I thought about that earlier. Prostitutes/call girls/manginas, strippers, all other pleasures of the flesh. Gotta be tough. That being said, people probably didn't stop throwing **** during the Plague either True. And a third of Europe died. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StillUnknown Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Mr. Sinister said: You know, I thought about that earlier. Prostitutes/call girls/manginas, strippers, all other pleasures of the flesh. Gotta be tough. That being said, people probably didn't stop throwing **** during the Plague either the oldest profession will be the last profession to stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, tshile said: It is reasonable, however, to assume that cutting the CDC's budget and specifically outlining outbreak prevention and overseas posts for outbreaks did not help and likely hurt their abilities. I think, when you compare our outcome to the outcome in other countries, then it’s not an impossible question to answer. It doesn’t seem to have made much difference. Of course, it’s early and we will have to see how it plays out before drawing a conclusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1) Still, they're only a threat to people who would see a prostitute during these times. 2) I wonder if this will affect prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 All these tweets by right wingers complaining about event cancellations really hammers home the danger of a president spreading misinformation. Those people clearly believe precautions aren’t needed and there’s no convincing them otherwise now, because they think any word to the contrary is politically motivated. So now even this is a conspiracy theory. In other news, seasonal allergies will soon be in full swing making things that much more exciting. Itchy eyes. Symptoms in public places making people nervous. Wonderful. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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