justice98 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 11:57 AM, Califan007 The Constipated said: Yikes lol...Cousins' legacy so far: I dont think people appreciate how hard it is to even get a QB at Cousins' level, let alone hope you get your hands on a unicorn like Mahomes or Brady. At best, the Vikes would have to hope to save some money to build up the rest of the team and hope they find a cheaper QB that can perform at 75% the level of Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 9:52 PM, 88Comrade2000 said: Cards remove that study clause from Kyler's contract. That is insane to me. They look worse for removing it than they did for putting it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, justice98 said: I dont think people appreciate how hard it is to even get a QB at Cousins' level, let alone hope you get your hands on a unicorn like Mahomes or Brady. At best, the Vikes would have to hope to save some money to build up the rest of the team and hope they find a cheaper QB that can perform at 75% the level of Cousins. The bigger point imo is that you don't want your GM making comments like that about the team's starting QB. I'm assuming "burning it down" either means starting over at the QB position or going all-out at the position like the Rams did with Stafford (and ironically like the Vikings did with Kirk lol). Either way, not a good soundbite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Watson got a 6 game suspension. Browns schedule looks like they go 2-4 or 3-3 without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) I know I shouldn't be surprised at how pathetic the ruling is, but somehow I still am. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/01/discipline-officer-requires-deshaun-watson-to-get-massages-from-browns-staff-only/ Quote The six-game suspension handed to Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson includes an apparently unprecedented condition: Watson can only get massages from therapists on the Browns’ staff. That mandate from Judge Sue L. Robinson means that Watson can’t hire his own therapists, according to Tom Pelissero of NFL Network. Edited August 1, 2022 by NickyJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I'll give the NFL the most meager credit it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 NFL better appeal the decision. Anything less than a suspension for the entire season is a ****ing joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I thought he'd get 8. 6 is a slap on the wrist. I know things were weird b/c of the new disciplinary guidelines, but this ruling still at least preserves the idea that the NFL can punish a player just for giving the league a black eye since Watson is not facing criminal charges. That is huge for future discipline developments. There was an idea that they lost the ability to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Kyler Murray tested positive for Covid. Will be out at least 5 days. Interesting to see the Covid rules in action and how it will effect this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I don't like the Watson punishment but I think the NFL should accept it. This was decided by an independent third party (and a female to boot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 18 hours ago, FootballZombie said: Kyler Murray tested positive for Covid. Will be out at least 5 days. Might be a good time to kick back and watch some film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Nfl is appealing Watson decision. They want an indefinite suspension and a fine. They are looking for at least one year suspension. Nflpa is fighting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34342566/nfl-appealing-deshaun-watson-six-game-suspension Quote The NFL on Wednesday appealed the six-game suspension for Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson, seeking a tougher penalty for violating the league's personal conduct policy in the wake of disciplinary officer Sue L. Robinson's ruling Monday. In a statement, the league said it notified the NFL Players Association that it would appeal and then filed its brief Wednesday afternoon. The league said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will determine who will hear the appeal. Under the CBA, Goodell has the option to consider the appeal himself or he can appoint a designee to do so. A source told ESPN that the league is appealing for an indefinite suspension that would be a minimum of one year (as it had previously sought), a monetary fine (which Watson was not levied initially by Robinson) and treatment that the star QB must undergo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Wow. Indefinite suspension possible….would he even be able to be any good when he returns, after 2 seasons of not playing at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Wow. Indefinite suspension possible….would he even be able to be any good when he returns, after 2 seasons of not playing at all? Who says he be any good thus year after a 6 game suspension. He already missed a year and if he plays will be rusty . Speaking of qbs;I can’t believe how everyone is penciling San Fran as a contender with Trey Lance. This is his first year as a starter and you expect to lead San Fran to goods things in year 1? I think he’ll struggle in an up and down year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 4 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Speaking of qbs;I can’t believe how everyone is penciling San Fran as a contender with Trey Lance. This is his first year as a starter and you expect to lead San Fran to goods things in year 1? He might. Mahomes was pretty good in his first year after sitting behind a veteran though. And both benefit by playing for genius offensive minds. So you never know. Rodgers was also good his first year but he did sit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 You forgot to mention that RG3 had Shanahan as his OC and was rookie of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 11:25 PM, Voice_of_Reason said: He might. Mahomes was pretty good in his first year after sitting behind a veteran though. And both benefit by playing for genius offensive minds. So you never know. Rodgers was also good his first year but he did sit longer. Trey Lance’s last full season as a starter was 2019. 2020 covid resulted him only having one game that year. I don’t he’s going to be that great in his first year. All of his fellow draftees struggled last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 7 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Trey Lance’s last full season as a starter was 2019. 2020 covid resulted him only having one game that year. I don’t he’s going to be that great in his first year. All of his fellow draftees struggled last year. All of this is fair, but nobody has any real idea. Kyle Shanahan is an offensive genius, and Lance has now had a full year in the system. Kyle also is the guy who got a historic season out of Griffin who we found out later couldn't read a defense at all. I don't have a DeLorean Time Machine, but if there was one HC/OC I trusted to get a first year starter up to speed and contribute, it's Kyle Shanahan. I guess, the second would be Andy Reid, who did it with Mahomes, and to a slightly lesser extent, McNabb. It could be Lance stinks, and it could be he's rusty. But I think there are too many factors pointing to the fact he's going to be in a perfect situation for him to dismiss that he really could hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: All of this is fair, but nobody has any real idea. Kyle Shanahan is an offensive genius, and Lance has now had a full year in the system. Kyle also is the guy who got a historic season out of Griffin who we found out later couldn't read a defense at all. I don't have a DeLorean Time Machine, but if there was one HC/OC I trusted to get a first year starter up to speed and contribute, it's Kyle Shanahan. I guess, the second would be Andy Reid, who did it with Mahomes, and to a slightly lesser extent, McNabb. It could be Lance stinks, and it could be he's rusty. But I think there are too many factors pointing to the fact he's going to be in a perfect situation for him to dismiss that he really could hit the ground running. People are expecting San Fran to go the SuperBowl Thinking he would top Big Ben. He had a great rookie year but didn’t win the SuperBowl until the next year. He played at North Dakota. Yeah, I think that’s same school as Carson but he played much less. Doesn’t matter if his coach is 28-3 Kyle; I think the kid will struggle in his first year. Maybe he plays well, San Fran has a another wild card appearance. I don’t think Kyle is that great. Sean Mcvay is a better coach than him. Maybe you and the pundits will be right, maybe I will. We’ll just see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 1:30 PM, 88Comrade2000 said: I don’t think Kyle is that great. Sean Mcvay is a better coach than him. Maybe you and the pundits will be right, maybe I will. We’ll just see. Did you not see the NFFCG where the 49ers almost beat the Rams, after beating the Packers with a clearly inferior team. And they were beating the Chiefs in the SB a few years earlier. Their new QB might not be that good, but Garoppolo wasn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/5/2022 at 1:30 PM, 88Comrade2000 said: People are expecting San Fran to go the SuperBowl Thinking he would top Big Ben. He had a great rookie year but didn’t win the SuperBowl until the next year. He played at North Dakota. Yeah, I think that’s same school as Carson but he played much less. Doesn’t matter if his coach is 28-3 Kyle; I think the kid will struggle in his first year. Maybe he plays well, San Fran has a another wild card appearance. I don’t think Kyle is that great. Sean Mcvay is a better coach than him. Maybe you and the pundits will be right, maybe I will. We’ll just see. One would think McVay, with two SB teams, would have a better winning percentage than .364 against Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) On 8/6/2022 at 7:04 PM, Ball Security said: One would think McVay, with two SB teams, would have a better winning percentage than .364 against Shanahan. Yet, he has a ring. Tom Brady is New Orleans's **** but he was able to win a superbowl in 20 and division last year. Niners maybe Sean's kryptonite but he's had more success than Kyle. Edited August 10, 2022 by 88Comrade2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 8:25 PM, 88Comrade2000 said: Yet, he has a ring. Tom Brady is New Orleans's **** but he was able to win a superbowl in 20 and division last year. Niners maybe Sean's kryptonite but he's had more success than Kyle. Both Sean and Kyle got an average QB to a SB. Then McVay got a better QB and won it. Kyle is a hell of a good coach. Is he better than McVay? I don’t think so. But that doesn’t make him bad. Just maybe in the 5-10 range and I put McVay 1-5. (I put Reid, McVay, Belichick and Harbaugh as my top 4. I put Shanahan right after that somewhere.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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