Bozo the kKklown Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Something is happening around the world. People are rising against government corruption, income inequality, etc. I am sharing stories from around the world From earlier this month: Business Insider - World on fire: 13 major protests happening around the globe right now South China Post: Hong Kong, Chile, Lebanon: protests erupt around the world Nations that had major protests the last month: Argentina Hong Kong Hati Indonesia Netherlands Ethiopia Spain Bolivia France Russia Peru Egypt Lebanon Syria Iraq Jerusalem South Korea Chile Ecuador In Chile, they are protesting over income inequality https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50191746 18 civilians killed so far in Chile Reuters: Catalonia's mayors call for self-determination before protest march The Guardian: Protests against Ethiopia's Nobel peace prize PM turn deadly 67 killed in Ethiopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Not long before this kinda stuff is happening in America every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Hey, spend 50 years systematically tilting the negotiating table between capital and labor in the direction of capital, and allowing corporations to become more powerful than governments, and who could have predicted this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, Springfield said: Not long before this kinda stuff is happening in America every day. Depends on the election, as I've said before, our situation is different because we can wait for vote for systematic change in our government instead of having to die for it. For now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Depends on the election, as I've said before, our situation is different because we can wait for vote for systematic change in our government instead of having to die for it. For now. Can we? Can we vote for systemic change? Remember when the Party of W got voted out of office, after he became the worst President in at least modern history? What changed, for the GOP? They got more resentful about always being told that their evil racist policies were evil. They didn't change the polices. Just got resentful about always being told that. And the evil simply became more systemic. A bigger part of their brand. The voter suppression got more universal, much more carefully orchestrated, and more obvious. They took the biggest shift of the House in modern history. Have they even toned back their obstruction of justice? Even made a token effort to conceal it? After every attempt to implement the prosperity which will surely come from the proven success of trickle down economics, the result has been an exploded deficit, and an actual reduction in the trickle down. And they won't even admit that the previous versions didn't work. They lose power, go back into a huddle, come back out with the same policy with a new label slapped over it, do the same thing again, and then act surprised when it produces the same result. (Well, except for this last time. This time, they simply pretend that the result doesn't even exist. Until they calculate that it's time to notice it, and use their newly-discovered deficit to push a different evil part of their agenda.) Yeah, I assume that if the GOP were to lose all power for a decade or two, then they might decide that they need to change their policies if they want back in. But I don;t see the voters doing that. They should. But I see no sign that they will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) @Larry the 2018 midterm is clear sign that present course will cost the GOP power. I dont care if they change if they lose congress and the White House, but they will if we get blue wave after blue wave. What was the response to Kansas becoming a case study in slashing taxes and funding as low as possible? They have a Democrat as governor. Kansas. Edited October 26, 2019 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: @Larry the 2018 midterm is clear sign that present course will cost the GOP power. And what "systemic change" do you see happening? Can you see any slight hint that the GOP is even dialing the evil back a notch? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Depends on the election, as I've said before, our situation is different because we can wait for vote for systematic change in our government instead of having to die for it. For now. Not sure how much we can count on elections fixing our issues. Those in power have rigged the system in their favor, and a lot of research has gone into how to manipulate the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I really hope we are not far away from turning this world around. We have the capability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Renegade7 said: Depends on the election, as I've said before, our situation is different because we can wait for vote for systematic change in our government instead of having to die for it. For now. The only time systemic change happened in this country is through violence (Civil War) or protest (Civil Rights movement). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: Not sure how much we can count on elections fixing our issues. Those in power have rigged the system in their favor, and a lot of research has gone into how to manipulate the masses. The House passed a bill for election and campaign reform that the senate wont vote on, I recommend checking it out. Elections alone wont do it, but you need people willing to attack the concept of citizens united, and we starting to get that. I believe in people like Warren and Bernie not selling us out even if I dont agree with everything they want to do. 6 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: The only time systemic change happened in this country is through violence (Civil War) or protest (Civil Rights movement). The New Deal doesnt count? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Larry said: And what "systemic change" do you see happening? Can you see any slight hint that the GOP is even dialing the evil back a notch? Their present model is unsubstainable, we've already had this discussion in other their threads. Their base is either leaving or slowly dying off. You may see a party getting worse I see a party in its death throbes. If we want to bump this thread after they lose the White House and congress, sure, but I'm choosing not to stress about this. It took a while to get this point, it will take some time to see what I'm talking about, but it's happening in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I want to believe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: The New Deal doesnt count? There were plenty of protests during the Great Depression, for example the Bonus Army: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, techboy said: There were plenty of protests during the Great Depression, for example the Bonus Army: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army Theres protest now, I was at March for our lives in DC and passed through the one for climate change Greta was at during lunch. Occupy Wall Street seems like a lifetime ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I could believe in the magical power of the ballot box to restore balance to the Force, if I could see signs that the voters are well and truly fed up with what's going on. But I'm not seeing it. (And it's blatantly obvious, neither is one single Republican on capitol hill.) 3 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: The New Deal doesnt count? that’s fair, but the New Deal transpired after the collapse of western economics. On top of that, there was a wave of socialism around the world that was bubbling in America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, Llevron said: I really hope we are not far away from turning this world around. We have the capability. I've long felt like another black death is what may have to do it. Morbid, I know. I'll see myself out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Larry said: I could believe in the magical power of the ballot box to restore balance to the Force, if I could see signs that the voters are well and truly fed up with what's going on. But I'm not seeing it. (And it's blatantly obvious, neither is one single Republican on capitol hill.) Americans are comfortable and docile. We have some how become proud of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. Sinister said: I've long felt like another black death is what may have to do it. Morbid, I know. I'll see myself out So I assume you are being supportive of the anti-vax movement? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: I've long felt like another black death is what may have to do it. Morbid, I know. I'll see myself out I keep watching the watchmen trying to figure out how to become Dr. Manhattan myself, so I’m with you. (The movie version, that is) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Larry said: I could believe in the magical power of the ballot box to restore balance to the Force, if I could see signs that the voters are well and truly fed up with what's going on. But I'm not seeing it. (And it's blatantly obvious, neither is one single Republican on capitol hill.) I feel like you jus ignored my points out of pessimism. That's fine, I'm not here to change anyone's mind. When I see majority of the country wants him impeached and removed from office and growing, I'll stay optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Just now, PokerPacker said: So I assume you are being supportive of the anti-vax movement? Its Darwin's will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PokerPacker said: So I assume you are being supportive of the anti-vax movement? A legit pandemic would outrun our ability to vax it. Whatever blows past us, I doubt it will be something we already have vax for. Not rooting for it, but plague ended the dark ages and ushered in the renaissance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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