gbear Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Is this better than black face? https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/adult-mexican-man-costume/46515.uts I don't know if it is just me, but I suspect 10 to 15 years from now some people who think it is funny now will regret wearing these costumes. Personally, I hope it doesn't take that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilandil Tasardur Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 As a Mexican American, I certainly don't appreciate the costume and think it's in poor taste. I don't appreciate being turned into a cartoon or a mascot for a white person's amusement at a party. But I won't pretend it's comparable to black face either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If I wore that around here (NM) to a party I'd wind up with black and blue face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Vilandil Tasardur said: As a Mexican American, I certainly don't appreciate the costume and think it's in poor taste. I don't appreciate being turned into a cartoon or a mascot for a white person's amusement at a party. But I won't pretend it's comparable to black face either. I'm glad i waited to say anything, my initial reaction was "no", but now I realize I jus wasnt personally offended. I wouldnt wear it simply because its attempting to be a stereotypical Mexican, but I wouldnt say anything if I saw an actual mexican wearing that costume or white person trying a redneck cosplay. The more I think about what Northam did, I think about people doing blackface to play characters in a script that actual black people would feel too demaning to do themselves. Northam was jus going to a party, he wasnt doing that because he felt he was superior to black people. Racially insensitive, absolutely. Racist? I would see it in his policies or it doesnt matter, he was talking about taking down Confederate statues when he was running for governor. When it happened I wanted him gone because how insensitive he seemed about it, not because I thought he was a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I doubt Mexicans (the ones in Mexico, or at least grew up there) would be offended by that. Not saying it isn't offensive, it is, just that this level of offensive is tame by Latin American standards of humor. Latino-Americans, I mean the ones born in the US, would almost certainly find the costume offensive. I don't think it's as bad as black face because it lacks the history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Recent politics make this extra sketchy to me. Im not a big fan of this at all. Though im struggling to find the correct words and not sound biased or prejudiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 You would only show up to a Halloween party wearing that if you knew it was an all white party. Let’s be honest. Same with black face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If you have to ask, it probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, -JB- said: You would only show up to a Halloween party wearing that if you knew it was an all white party. Let’s be honest. Same with black face. I could see it at some hispanic parties, I've seen worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I might be contrary, here. The question I'm hearing being asked is "If I saw somebody wearing this costume, would I conclude that he's racist?" And I think the answer is "no". (Now, if the question is "Is this a racial stereotype?" The answer is "No ****, Sherlock." But to me, it's such an exageration of the stereotype, that I have to conclude that it's intentional.) Again, maybe I'm overthinking this. But if I see that costume, what I see is someone who's making fun of Trump voters for whom the scariest thing in the world are scary Mexicans who are coming here to rape and murder the white women. Someone who's not making fun of Hispanics, but making fun of a lot of people's prejudices towards Hispanics. But then, it's well known that I'm weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I like your version @Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Ya, if we can all agree racism, prejudice, and stereotyping arent the same thing, thatd go along way in this whole melting pot thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 58 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: If you have to ask, it probably is. Also, if you have to ask, you just might be a dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderDOOM Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Httr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Ya, if we can all agree racism, prejudice, and stereotyping arent the same thing, thatd go along way in this whole melting pot thing Well, while different, there is often a lot of overlap between those circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Is this ok to post? I’ll delete if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Larry said: Well, while different, there is often a lot of overlap between those circles. Check this out when you have a chance and let me know what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Why does Morgan Freeman sound like he's been inhaling helium in that video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, China said: Why does Morgan Freeman sound like he's been inhaling helium in that video? Because it's a ripped copy, likely someone recorded it using a computer and reposted it, why the resolution is off. I have the science channel, so I can watch these on their website now, but before I had to watch a lot of the documentaries I found interesting on YouTube. Some of them look like a mirror image with everything backwards. This is my favorite show, asks questions some arent sure how to ask and puts into perspective that science doesnt know everything and isnt saying it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 1:12 PM, Renegade7 said: Check this out when you have a chance and let me know what you think It's an hour long! I got the drift from the first few minutes but anything over 5-10 requires a big screen and a couch for me. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chachie said: It's an hour long! I got the drift from the first few minutes but anything over 5-10 requires a big screen and a couch for me. 🙂 Does your cable box have YouTube built in? : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, China said: Why does Morgan Freeman sound like he's been inhaling helium in that video? Probably to try to sneak by copyright infringement bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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