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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

Thrilled to see keenum starting out of the gate. I hope he is successful, so gruden doesn't have the urge to throw Haskins in there.  Young bucks on oline and wr need to step up!!

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Not at all surprised that Keenum was announced starter.

But a little surprised he didn't wait longer to announce it.

So Haskins is the #2.

Wonder if this means Colt could be cut.

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I’m fine with it IF Haskins is 2nd, and colt is cut. If they yank Keenum at 0-4 and put in Colt, I’m done with this staff

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5 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

Not at all surprised that Keenum was announced starter.

But a little surprised he didn't wait longer to announce it.

So Haskins is the #2.

Wonder if this means Colt could be cut.

Agreed but we need a back up, Im not comfortable with 2 QB's on th roster after last season. And don't say Jalen McClendon

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6 hours ago, benskins26 said:

I’m fine with it IF Haskins is 2nd, and colt is cut. If they yank Keenum at 0-4 and put in Colt, I’m done with this staff

But if we are 0-4 bc the QB doesn't have time to throw and is constantly getting hit/pressured, is that the scenario you want Haskins entering into?  

 

I'm hoping the situation takes care of itself from here on out.  If the offensive line holds up, and the offense is moving the ball, and the skins are winning some games, they have no need to remove keenum this year.  If it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

If the line is a disaster, the QB is getting pummeled, the offense can't move the ball, and the skins are losing games, I'm hoping its painfully obvious putting in your green QB of the future is not a good idea.

 

The worst scenario in my opinion: a mixed bag on offense, with some wins and losses, and an injury to keenum.  The offense shows ability to move the ball at times, but also has protection issues and leads to QB hits.  We have a 500 record and the coaching staff feels we could challenge for a playoff spot, and gruden starts to feel the warmth of his seat, and puts Haskins in behind a struggling oline, and the offense regresses due to his inexperience, and DH gets hit often.  I'm hoping we can avoid this, but I think Murphy was a Redskins fan, and I can't help but thinkwhat can go wrong, will go wrong.

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Alright, it is what it is, he will have a short leash as soon as Colt is healthy, best of luck to him.

 

 

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11 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

DeShaun Watson is next and it kills me.  Hurt so bad he had to take a bus to travel.

 

These guys are the toughest athletes in team sports and they're getting worn out.  Having a functional offensive line is a big deal.  Making sure your QB is ready to set his protections and read blitzes before you run him out there to get his head taken off is a big deal.  The longer we can sit Haskins, the better it will be for him.

I have little sympathy...you get QB's getting 58 Mil, 80 Mil and taking higher % of cap space they have to live (rather Die) on the fact that the money is not there for supporting casts...Brady IS smart enough to realize that...and make money by volume than over 3 years...

 

tahts why I hate this "renegotiation" crap while under contract..

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I find this extraordinarily uninspiring, however I also think that it commits the team to having to win at least 2 of their first 5 games. 

 

If they go 1-4 or 0-5, then I think the wheels are going to come off and anything is possible. 

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I honestly don’t know how anyone can be logically upset about this. I understand the excitement of a shiny new toy but we’re not winning this year, we can all agree that he’s not ready and we can all agree that the OL is more a liability than any other unit on this team. We’ve seen what happened with Campbell and Ramsey and Rg3, why do we want a repeat of any of their careers??

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Yup, we all saw this coming.

 

Games that Keenum gets a pass on (Chicago, New England).  But only if he performs well, even with a loss, against the division rivals.  I can see him sticking around at 1-4, but the offense has to be showing something good.  Otherwise 2-3 is the only way he survives heading into Miami.

 

Why do we have a week 3 game against the Bears on Monday Night Football?  How does that make sense?  Bears D against who at QB?  It's like the schedule makers had a brain fart back in April.  ESPN must hate that they couldn't get a better matchup.

 

So if Keenum goes 0-3, it's going to be really hard to bench him for Haskins on a short week.  Only 6 days to prep for the next game with a rookie QB if that's to be his next start?

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Starting Keenum is (imo - adding that for clarity) the absolute, 100% correct move.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Alcoholic Zebra said:

 

Why do we have a week 3 game against the Bears on Monday Night Football?  How does that make sense?  Bears D against who at QB?  It's like the schedule makers had a brain fart back in April.  ESPN must hate that they couldn't get a better matchup.

 

 

No Sunday Night games two years in a row.  This time no 4 pm games either.  Wow.   I get this is a team that obviously the NFL people think do not draw viewers but MNF games at home are somewhat cruel considering the history here with them.   Maybe part of the drill is to see if they can keep losing these MNF games for curiosity sake?  🙄  We got a couple of segments on ESPN after a recent MNF loss including a spot on First Take where Stephen Smith said the Redskins should be banned from MNF.  

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On 8/25/2019 at 2:33 AM, Veryoldschool said:

Luck is so beat up he is going to retire when he's 29 and should be in his prime as a QB.  I don't want Haskins rushed on the field before he's ready and have his career cut short like Luck's.

 

So what do you propose they do when Keenum stinks up the joint in a game and McCoy is still injured?  Sign another veteran and start them?

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38 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

No Sunday Night games two years in a row.  This time no 4 pm games either.  Wow.   I get this is a team that obviously the NFL people think do not draw viewers but MNF games at home are somewhat cruel considering the history here with them.   Maybe part of the drill is to see if they can keep losing these MNF games for curiosity sake?  🙄  We got a couple of segments on ESPN after a recent MNF loss including a spot on First Take where Stephen Smith said the Redskins should be banned from MNF.  

 

Ouch.

 

Every team is required at least 1 primetime game, but usually they shove two teams with questionmarks onto TNF instead.

 

Only way the MNF game becomes worth it is if the NFL thinks it'll be a defensive showdown.  Given that the Bears defense is a clear tier above us, I doubt that.

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16 hours ago, PartyPosse said:

We’ve seen what happened with Campbell and Ramsey and Rg3, why do we want a repeat of any of their careers??


I 100% think that this organization is run by people who couldn't organize a trip to the toilet let alone run a football organization, but this myth that Griffin, Campbell, and Ramsey were ruined by this organization doesn't make any sense to me.  Campbell was given chance after chance after chance with this team and it never clicked.  Guess what happened when he went to a different organization?  Benched for Bruce Gradkowski.  Same with Griffin.  He's with a much better ran organization now, and he's relegated to being a backup.  And Ramsey was never going to be a good NFL QB no matter what line we had at the time.  

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28 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:


I 100% think that this organization is run by people who couldn't organize a trip to the toilet let alone run a football organization, but this myth that Griffin, Campbell, and Ramsey were ruined by this organization doesn't make any sense to me.  Campbell was given chance after chance after chance with this team and it never clicked.  Guess what happened when he went to a different organization?  Benched for Bruce Gradkowski.  Same with Griffin.  He's with a much better ran organization now, and he's relegated to being a backup.  And Ramsey was never going to be a good NFL QB no matter what line we had at the time.  

 

RE: Campbell. I agree. He had chances. He never took advantage (though he was never as bad as many say, he wasn't good.

 

RE: Griffin. Jury is out. He's relegated to a back-up for the time being. But I think Lamar Jackson is a ticking time bomb. Griffin is probably the better QB, and if he has learned at all about not running the second things get tense, he may still come out of this whole thing as a starting QB in the NFL. However, I don't think Griffin is a case of playing too soon... He was the best of two rookie options on the roster (which sticks to my personal: Best QB plays) at the time, and then he wasn't a few years down the road and Cousins took over. He got injured because of his playstyle (which I suppose you can blame on coaching), but it's clearly also his instinct to run when nothing is there.

 

RE: Ramsey. This is a case, in my opinion, of getting him beat up and gun shy and ruining his career. Ramsey was similar to Haskins in a lot of ways (don't think he's as talented), but he really needed some time. He was rushed, behind a bad line, and then he got completely gunshy. 

 

There is no one sized fits all. But if you go with the mantra of "play the best QB" I think your decision can always be backed with reasoning and logic.

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