Conn Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I am actually gonna die from envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Isn’t reshuffling the norm in the NFL?? Here I thought being patient was celebrated amongst the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobert Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I’d love to have Rivera as our Defensive Coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, redrobert said: I’d love to have Rivera as our Defensive Coordinator. He's gonna get another HC job. He's a damn good coach. The Newton injury boned him. The fact that he managed to get to 5-3 with dreadful Kyle Allen at QB says all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Imagine. Dont need to imagine. Can easily make the case that firing Marty after one season is among the worst mistakes of the Snyder era. Feels hasty, then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, wit33 said: Isn’t reshuffling the norm in the NFL?? Here I thought being patient was celebrated amongst the masses. Not sure what you're getting at. Continuity is only good when the thing you're keeping is good. How long exactly is the leash of your patience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 My gut says it's going to be someone like Marvin Lewis unless Dan throws a ton of money and full control to some big name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Not sure what you're getting at. Continuity is only good when the thing you're keeping is good. How long exactly is the leash of your patience? As you know, each situation is different and there’s no right or wrong way to do things, but an owner being credited with moving on from Rivera during a season most were lauding the team for staying in the race is strange. I did hear some rumors there was some contention behind the scenes with Rivera and FO, in regards to not wanting to IR Cam Newton among other things. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Rivera’s last year of his contract (didn’t check). No set time for a coach, but I’m always going to lean towards patience in hope of establishing some continuity, especially if the franchise doesn’t have a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, wit33 said: As you know, each situation is different and there’s no right or wrong way to do things, but an owner being credited with moving on from Rivera during a season most were lauding the team for staying in the race is strange. I did hear some rumors there was some contention behind the scenes with Rivera and FO, in regards to not wanting to IR Cam Newton among other things. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Rivera’s last year of his contract (didn’t check). No set time for a coach, but I’m always going to lean towards patience in hope of establishing some continuity, especially if the franchise doesn’t have a franchise QB. Reasonable people can certainly disagree on whether firing Rivera is the right move. But I'm crediting Tepper for having (and communicating to the fans of the team that he owns) such a clear and well-stated goal for the direction of his franchise. And that's not even getting into the actual merit of that stated direction--and I think it has tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I am sticking to my guns. Callahan is our next coach. It doesn't take much to look good to our clown front office. OT I am surprised opposition coaches don't get fired after every one of our wins. Miami letting us win, aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: I am sticking to my guns. Callahan is our next coach. It doesn't take much to look good to our clown front office. OT I am surprised opposition coaches don't get fired after every one of our wins. Miami letting us win, aside. It doesn't matter how this season ends--if Allen/Callahan is the combo they try to sell to this apathetic fanbase this offseason, they are going to be astounded to discover the further depths that attendance and local attention can still sink to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 A little off topic, but this thought crossed my mind today; when the Redskins play the Cowboys again, if Dallas continues to struggle, and the Redskins beat them, ol' Jerruh might have a conniption and can Garrett after the game. Talk about deflation, New England wouldn't have ANYTHING on Dallas! This season is starting to be very very entertaining, for one reason or another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, wit33 said: As you know, each situation is different and there’s no right or wrong way to do things, but an owner being credited with moving on from Rivera during a season most were lauding the team for staying in the race is strange. I did hear some rumors there was some contention behind the scenes with Rivera and FO, in regards to not wanting to IR Cam Newton among other things. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Rivera’s last year of his contract (didn’t check). No set time for a coach, but I’m always going to lean towards patience in hope of establishing some continuity, especially if the franchise doesn’t have a franchise QB. Tepper is in his 2nd year of ownership. He could've gotten rid of Rivera last year but decided to give him one more shot. Well, Rivera failed in that shot; whether it was really his a fault or not. The coach is the one ultimately judged. So Tepper will have his own man in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Panthers won't find a better coach then they had in Rivera... This is all in an effort for Tepper/ownership to do exactly what our FO and ownership do which is meddle in football business, which they know nothing about. bold strategy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: The coach is the one ultimately judged. Unless you've had 9 failed coaches in 20 years and stuck with 2 losing puppet GMs for a decade each and still can't win 40% of your games despite never actually tanking a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 13 hours ago, redrobert said: I’d love to have Rivera as our Defensive Coordinator. My first thoughts after he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Whoever the next coach is, I want them to be competent enough to NOT allow broken coverages in our secondary. NO other team in the league has the consistent breakdown of coverages like the Redskins. It’s been years of WIDE open receivers and our DB’s standing with their hands on hips or hands out with no idea how that just happened.....but we are close..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hire Rivera...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said: Hire Rivera...... As an upgraded DC under Coach Bill? Down with that. 😜 Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said: Panthers won't find a better coach then they had in Rivera... This is all in an effort for Tepper/ownership to do exactly what our FO and ownership do which is meddle in football business, which they know nothing about. bold strategy... I don't think this is remotely true. Tepper is a smart guy and was a minority owner of the Steelers for a while, so he's seen how a properly run legacy franchise operates. He's not the meddling type, sometimes you just need a fresh start after 9 years, especially when you're instituting a new vision from the top down as a new owner. Rivera is a good coach and by all accounts a great man. That doesn't mean a fresh start is automatically a bad idea--look at Philly post-Reid, despite some missteps before their SB and despite a poor season this year, I'd say fans overall are happy with the direction of their franchise now, despite Reid being one of the best coaches in the league. I think this is a Skins fan understandably projecting our experience with newer ownership onto another situation. But I don't think it applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 10 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: It doesn't matter how this season ends--if Allen/Callahan is the combo they try to sell to this apathetic fanbase this offseason, they are going to be astounded to discover the further depths that attendance and local attention can still sink to. Hopefully, if he's serious about change as is being mooted the media, the two are mutually exclusive and he sees sense and bins Allen. Then if this upward progression has continued through the last 4 games, Callahan has earned the gig on a permy basis without Allen hanging over everything. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said: It doesn't matter how this season ends--if Allen/Callahan is the combo they try to sell to this apathetic fanbase this offseason, they are going to be astounded to discover the further depths that attendance and local attention can still sink to. Yeah I do think Callahan is a difficult sell on his own. But Callahan and Bruce would be wild and I'd be shocked if its not a tandem in the end. I can't see one surviving without the other. But to your point, if they run that tandem, Dan likely will see depths of fans checking out that beat even this year. Don't get me wrong I can see Callahan-Bruce matching what we got for most of Jay's era -- that is, mediocre teams. But I think too many in the fan base are too checked out to be brought back by a narrative that the 2015-2018 teams were no flukes and they rediscovered the holy grail for mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 it seemed to me that rivera would get a lot of positive attention here when the news broke, and i think he'd be a better get for us than i've been expecting otoh, given the kind of character guy ron is widely reputed to be, i think it'd be fitting if he was offered the job and declined it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: As an upgraded DC under Coach Bill? Down with that. 😜 Hail. Rather he was HC and had control of defense...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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