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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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It looks like to me that Callahan is trying to keep the job.  Why hire someone that worked for you earlier if you thought you were going to be fired at the end of season.  I tend to agree with Rex though in that I think they'll have options after the season.  Only so many head coaching jobs available so think people will want one of the openings.  For the most part, I think the Dan Snyder thing is a by-product of the local media and fanbase.  Even Joe Gibbs said Dan did everything asked of him.

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4 hours ago, illone said:

If you dont think Tomlin is great than you are suffering from stockholm syndrome.

 

Not sure this comment makes sense, are people suggesting the Redskins current coaches are better than Tomlin?

 

I'm not the biggest Tomlin fan, it would seem similar to the Carolina Panthers hiring George Seifert. Great records with a stacked team, but he's not likely to turn much around here. But I think it's a moot point. Even if Tomlin somehow became available, why would he come here?

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47 minutes ago, owa said:

It looks like to me that Callahan is trying to keep the job.  Why hire someone that worked for you earlier if you thought you were going to be fired at the end of season.  I tend to agree with Rex though in that I think they'll have options after the season.  Only so many head coaching jobs available so think people will want one of the openings.  For the most part, I think the Dan Snyder thing is a by-product of the local media and fanbase.  Even Joe Gibbs said Dan did everything asked of him.

Dan would because Gibbs won 3 SBs with the Skins.  Someone else probably a different story.

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Tomlin winning in the playoffs here, hilarious.

 

He won't go 8-8 here.

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If Snyder's plane was really in Pittsburgh earlier this week, I'd be shocked if it had anything to do with Tomlin. No HC coach is going to take a meeting with another team during the season- no how, no way! That plane could've been there for any number of reasons, but I'm sure it wasn't there for any type of meeting with Tomlin or Steeler executive's. Hearing how Gibbs is advocating for Louis Riddick for our GM and that Snyder likely listens to anything Gibbs suggests, I guess a possibility could be that plane was in Pittsburgh for Riddick, who played college football at Pittsburgh and may or may not have a home in the vicinity. 

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Can someone remind me when the last time a team gave up draft picks in trade for a head coach...I dont remember ever seeing it happen..

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15 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Can someone remind me when the last time a team gave up draft picks in trade for a head coach...I dont remember ever seeing it happen..

 

TB/OAK Jon Gruden trade

 

In the early-morning hours of Feb. 18, 2002, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers sent two first-round draft picks, two second-round picks and $8 million to the Oakland Raiders -- for a head coach...

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Just now, tibbidoe said:

 

TB/OAK Jon Gruden

So it's been 18 years or so....I hope Daniel dont trade away draft pics for Tomlin 

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Just now, bakedtater1 said:

So it's been 18 years or so....I hope Daniel dont trade away draft pics for Tomlin 

 

May not have to. Tomlin could be fired.

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http://profootballdaly.com/trading-draft-picks-for-coaches/

 

**not the last per your request but figured I’d throw this in there**

 

2001 — Marty Schottenheimer from the Chiefs to the Redskins for two picks. Schottenheimer lasted just one season in Washington, going 8-8 (with eight wins in his last 11 games). Owner Dan Snyder fired him after trying — and failing — to get Marty to replace one of his assistants.

 

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2 hours ago, fearlessNelms said:

If Snyder's plane was really in Pittsburgh earlier this week, I'd be shocked if it had anything to do with Tomlin. No HC coach is going to take a meeting with another team during the season- no how, no way! That plane could've been there for any number of reasons, but I'm sure it wasn't there for any type of meeting with Tomlin or Steeler executive's. Hearing how Gibbs is advocating for Louis Riddick for our GM and that Snyder likely listens to anything Gibbs suggests, I guess a possibility could be that plane was in Pittsburgh for Riddick, who played college football at Pittsburgh and may or may not have a home in the vicinity. 

Maybe went to chat with Russ Grimm?

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11 hours ago, BruceAllenIsFootballGenius said:

Kris Richard will be the next head coach. Let him bring in a OC to work with Haskins. 

 

I like what I've read about Richard but am assuming he's not a sexy enough name for Dan. 

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5 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I like what I've read about Richard but am assuming he's not a sexy enough name for Dan. 

 

Dan may need to commit to donning his whiskey googles and dial up a 1am bar closing Roseanne level sexy coach.

 

Tomlin?, lmao ffs.  He ain’t coming here.

 

Start at maybe, MAYBE, Bowles or Harbaugh and work backwards.

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Urban Meyer might be the super coach in Snyder's eyes he wants (ties with Haskins) and pays him more than any HC in the league to acquire his services.  Question is will Meyer want to come here?

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I've developed an extremely easy formula for success!  Competent general manager + Russ Grimm = Superbowl.  I know he's not a popular candidate here but I sure do miss Redskin football.  A strong physical running game paired with a monster defense.  Russ Grimm is Redskin's football although I'm not sure how old he is, lol.  

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On 10/10/2019 at 8:13 PM, SemperFi Skins said:


you didn’t answer my question... how many championships? One? And that team was inherited? Please, produce something more. By your logic, he could go 9-7 for 10 years (winning percentage, right?) and he’s a great coach? 
 

come on, man! He’s a product of a great front office which even he can’t produce trophies with. Good coaches get it done. He hasn’t. He won’t, and will most likely be canned... (Save for an extension of another Cowher team SB win)

 

he can go coach your team, but I don’t want him near mine... He’s closer to Mike McCarthy than Bill Belichek

You are a liar, I LITERALLY answered your question unless you are not able to understand that words "won a superbowl".  You must be taking lessons straight from the classroom of Bruce, not impressed.  Hes 2nd among all HC's in winning seasons.  Hes in the top 6 in Winning percentage, in playoff wins, in CHAMPIONSHIPS.  Hes had teams that have gone 13-3, 12-4, 12-4, 12-4.  Hes one of only 6 to win a superbowl.  

 

One of the top 6 coaches in the entire world in winning percentage, winning seasons, playoff winning percentage, championships won?  Not good enough for the super special, super precious, super SemperFi Skins.  You want to take that view, you are a fool among fools and would deserve a great place among Bruce Allens elite.

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If our O looks good the remainder of the season, I think O'connell deserves a look. Pair him with a competent and aggressive DC (one thing we haven't had for a while)

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7 hours ago, TheDiplomat said:

If our O looks good the remainder of the season, I think O'connell deserves a look. Pair him with a competent and aggressive DC (one thing we haven't had for a while)

Right now, we're 28th place in yards per game - with 3 of the 4 teams below us having lost their starting QB to illness or injury and the remaining team actively trying to lose games.  In terms of points per game we're at 30th place.  Converting on 3rd down - 31st.  Time of Possession - 30th.  Rushing yards/game - 27th.  Passing yards/game - 26th!

 

But that's not really my problem, because he has the second worst talent in the NFL and isn't running his own offensive scheme.  My problem is that he has no experience in any leadership role and he's the perfect candidate for Bruce and Danny to push around.  And then blame when everything goes wrong.  He's Son of Zorn, except without the exceptional quarterback career.

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On 9/25/2019 at 6:46 PM, jamellm78 said:

Keep your eyes on Eric Bieniemy , the OC for Kansas City. In sure he'll be getting offers in the off-season. 

I was surprised he didn't get any this offseason.

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What if Callahan and group go on a run (literally) and rattles off a bunch of wins and goes like 8-8 or 9-7?

 

Does it give BA the confirmation on roster talent, "we're close"?  Would that make him less vulnerable?  Would they make Callahan the HC?

 

IMO, this is the ultimate nightmare scenario....LOL

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Peregrine said:

You are a liar, I LITERALLY answered your question unless you are not able to understand that words "won a superbowl".  You must be taking lessons straight from the classroom of Bruce, not impressed.  Hes 2nd among all HC's in winning seasons.  Hes in the top 6 in Winning percentage, in playoff wins, in CHAMPIONSHIPS.  Hes had teams that have gone 13-3, 12-4, 12-4, 12-4.  Hes one of only 6 to win a superbowl.  

 

One of the top 6 coaches in the entire world in winning percentage, winning seasons, playoff winning percentage, championships won?  Not good enough for the super special, super precious, super SemperFi Skins.  You want to take that view, you are a fool among fools and would deserve a great place among Bruce Allens elite.


you seem fun... maybe take a break for a little bit? 

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On 10/10/2019 at 8:40 AM, stoshuaj said:

You all are nuts.  Why in the Sam hell would Tomlin come here?

 

If, IF he gets canned by Pittsburgh, he goes on tv to get fluffered for 5 years while his perceived value continues to rise and then he gets to pick his spot.

 

or, he comes to this **** hole. 

 

Remove your blinders, Skins are getting a has been or never was.

 

If the paycheck/power is enough, Tomlin or nearly any coach looking for work will sign. We've seen it in the past. I remember back in 2000 on ESPN, Marty publicly stated he would never work for Daniel Snyder and.....a year later he was working for Daniel Snyder. I'm sure Joe Gibbs thought the same thing prior to 2004, Mike Shanahan as well. Money and power certainly changes a coaches mind.

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22 hours ago, emoore0222 said:

I've developed an extremely easy formula for success!  Competent general manager 


Alvin Walton is the guy.

5 minutes ago, mike42 said:

 

If the paycheck/power is enough, Tomlin or nearly any coach looking for work will sign. We've seen it in the past. I remember back in 2000 on ESPN, Marty publicly stated he would never work for Daniel Snyder and.....a year later he was working for Daniel Snyder. I'm sure Joe Gibbs thought the same thing prior to 2004, Mike Shanahan as well. Money and power certainly changes a coaches mind.


A weekend on the super yacht can be convincing.

 

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1 hour ago, SemperFi Skins said:


you seem fun... maybe take a break for a little bit? 

Why?  Where would be the fun in that?  Do you hate fun?

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On 10/11/2019 at 7:16 AM, tibbidoe said:

 

May not have to. Tomlin could be fired.

I would think the Steelers, if they were going to fire Tomlin, would be smart enough to call Dan and Bruce to see if they wanted to trade for him. Why not, we'd be dumb enough to deal our 1st for him, if not more. 

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