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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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So much for not advancing Talent already in House....O'Connell !!!!. Amazing how everyone else can see the potential in assistants here but all I hear is this board talking about other coaches coming in to replace Gruden. Seems Crazy. I hope Dan is not crazy enough to listen or be influenced by some on this board.

 

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6 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

I googled that f word and still dont get it man..what are ya trying to say?...and maybe come at me like a 5th grader lol

 

You said 'prey' instead of 'pray'.

 

Prey - hunt and kill for food.

 

Pray - address a solemn request or expression of thanks to a deity or other object of worship.

 

 
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1 hour ago, KDawg said:

 

You said 'prey' instead of 'pray'.

 

Prey - hunt and kill for food.

 

Pray - address a solemn request or expression of thanks to a deity or other object of worship.

 

 

Lol thank you..I most certainly did..thanks man..

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1 hour ago, brettstr said:

So much for not advancing Talent already in House....O'Connell !!!!. Amazing how everyone else can see the potential in assistants here but all I hear is this board talking about other coaches coming in to replace Gruden. Seems Crazy. I hope Dan is not crazy enough to listen or be influenced by some on this board to this board.

 

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Problem with O'Connell is that he hasnt even called plays before. We have no idea what he would do as a head coach because he has no prior experience and the guy he learned from was so bad we cut him mid-season. There is no reason to think he can do the job as it stands. 

 

And someone like O'connell with that kind of resume would not be able to 'stand up to' Bruce and Dan assuming thats going to be the power structure. 

 

Lots of questions with him, and this org is not built up to support a guy that is learning. Consider what we did with Gruden who had a ton more experience. 

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I must be missing something - why is O'Connell considered head coaching material?  Other than that he is here and would probably take the job?

 

In the end, this will come down to Callahan staying on as head coach, Gregg, or Rex Ryan who is surely sniffing around somewhere.  Probably Callahan.

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  • @Redskins fans hear me out... let BA keep President title. He’s not going anywhere (unfortunately). Hire Scott Pioli as GM. Try to pluck Kirby Smart from UGA for HC. Let O’Connell take over as OC with Asst HC title. Tomsula takes over at DC with Smart overseeing. @ochocinco for WR Coach. (Chad admires Scarry Terry already)

     
     
     
     

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    If you can’t get Pioli, take a look at Peyton Manning for GM. They’ll potentially have the #1 overall pick in the 2020 draft to work with which can be swapped with Miami for at least two of their first rounders and their 2nd rounder. Go for Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, or Tristan

    • Wirfs. If you can walk away with two of those, we are set. Re-sign Scherff. Another scenario would be if you let Haskins play it out and he’s not your guy, then pull an Arizona and go for Tua or Herbert in the top 5. Most importantly, now is the time to trade assets for picks:

       
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    • Trent Williams, Josh Norman, Jordan Reed, Ryan Kerrigan. See what you can get on the open market. Be sellers at the deadline and those guys should get the opportunity to compete with a potential playoff team this year.

       
       
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Bruce Allen and Dan discussing the job with potential coaching candidates....

 

Sir, we have quite the job for you, what do you say???

 

 

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3 hours ago, theTruthTeller said:

I must be missing something - why is O'Connell considered head coaching material?  Other than that he is here and would probably take the job?

 

He's young and we got burned before.  Other than that, there's nothing that suggests he's head coaching material.

 

Havent really heard any buzz that he's a hot coaching candidate in demand around the league either.

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I know some people are not on board with Todd Bowles...

 

But I tell you what...If Bruce Allen stays, and Bowles is willing...he may be the best choice. The nostalgia effect may be enough for him to receive more control over the building than other coaches would get. Heck, Dan may even side with him over Bruce every once in a while. We know how Dan loves guys that actually played. Could he even make a power play to get Bruce out of there?!? 

 

As we go along, and I start to come to the realization that Bruce isn't going anywhere, I begin to change my views. Can't look at it like a normal situation where we just go get the best possible candidate. We are sick, and need the correct medicine to get well. 

 

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33 minutes ago, dballer said:

I know some people are not on board with Todd Bowles...

 

But I tell you what...If Bruce Allen stays, and Bowles is willing...he may be the best choice. The nostalgia effect may be enough for him to receive more control over the building than other coaches would get. Heck, Dan may even side with him over Bruce every once in a while. We know how Dan loves guys that actually played. Could he even make a power play to get Bruce out of there?!? 

 

As we go along, and I start to come to the realization that Bruce isn't going anywhere, I begin to change my views. Can't look at it like a normal situation where we just go get the best possible candidate. We are sick, and need the correct medicine to get well. 

 

 

I'm not anti-Bowles per se, but I would worry about the offense and developing a QB.  Unless he retained O'Connell or pulled some QB developer from somewhere.

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Brian Daboll, Offensive Coordinator, Buffalo Bills

Washington has been unable to establish its own team culture for a decade, so in the past few years it decided to import Nick Saban’s. Eight of the 53 players on Washington’s roster played at Alabama under Saban, including defensive leaders Jonathan Allen and Landon Collins.

“You know the culture is actually damn good,” team president Bruce Allen said at his press conference Monday. “These people care. We have a very young core of players that we have brought in here that are accustomed to winning.”

Short of hiring Saban himself, the best person they could bring in to keep that going is Bills offensive coordinator Daboll. He served as Alabama’s co–offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2017 before taking the OC job with Buffalo last year. Saban hired Daboll as a graduate assistant at Michigan State back in 1998, and Daboll has bounced around the Saban–Bill Belichick coaching tree ever since, including winning three Super Bowls on the Pats staff when he was on it from 2000 to 2006, working as an assistant for Eric Mangini for four years across two teams, serving as offensive coordinator for Romeo Crennel, heading back to the Patriots as tight ends coach for the best years of Rob Gronkowski’s career, and then heading to Bama. Buffalo’s offense is not exactly explosive, but the Bills are 4-1 with Josh Allen at QB, so he’s doing something right.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/10/8/20904341/washington-head-coach-byron-leftwich-mike-tomlin-dan-snyder

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Kirby Smart... He was the DC for Saban. Been saying it for a few years now. Doubt he or anyone would want this craphole job but who knows. I want a defensive background coach, not offense. Defense wins championships. We have a good, young core here.

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15 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

It’s one of those ideas that sounds so incredibly stupid, that you can actually believe it could be true.  Only Dan, only freaking Dan.

Its totally going to happen.  Dan would do it so you know its real, and its Bruce's way of showing Dan what a wheeler and dealer he is.

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26 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

DHall might wanna refrain from prognostications.  

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20 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

These delusional ass Steelers fans actually believe this 😂😂

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I would hate to have to trade any picks for him, but I'd Love to have Mike Tomlin as a coach. He seems like a no nonsense type of guy and that's this team needs. He also would probably have the ability to attract some decent assistants who would want to be a part of his staff. I think that everybody forgets that no matter how good the Head Coach, he cant do it alone. if you look back to Joe Gibbs and the glory years (seems like forever I know) but we had some awesome assistants back then. Let Tomlin be the Enforcer and get some brilliant minds to coach the Offense and Defense and perhaps we may have some success. Oh wait.....Bruce!!  Never mind!!  

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It will probably be someone who has an Allen OAK/TB connection.  Someone they can rope a dope and screw around with until that guy is worn out.  Lather, rinse, and repeat.

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5 minutes ago, SAli457180 said:

It will probably be someone who has an Allen OAK/TB connection.  Someone they can rope a dope and screw around with until that guy is worn out.  Lather, rinse, and repeat.

 

Sadly, you're probably right.

 

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6 hours ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Kirby Smart... He was the DC for Saban. Been saying it for a few years now. Doubt he or anyone would want this craphole job but who knows. I want a defensive background coach, not offense. Defense wins championships. We have a good, young core here.

I wasn't too big on this idea, but the more I think about it, I love it.  Smart comes from the Saban tree, he is a defensive minded coach and his Georgia team always looks ready and disciplined.  Pair him up with a solid young offensive coordinator and we certainly couldn't do any worse than what we've had for the last 10 years. 

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Since Bruce will be here, it really doesn't matter.  We will get a bum as the next coach, who will probably ruin any shot Haskins has.  In 2-3 years we will be looking for a new coach, qb, etc...

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