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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
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Ramsey for TW straight up?

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I cant be the only one kicking around the notion... Tdub is checked the F out, and not missed so much on that side of the line. Jags need a probowl T, and we need help at corner.

The dream-

Norman looks MUCH better with an actual cb1 covering the wr1- and that helps the Dline- and that helps the D actually help the O... And now we dont suck?! Yay!

We already have waaay to much money tied up in Norman and Collins- but still, we are playing a 58 year old as a starter opposite of Norman and expecting to not get torched?

 

Give me Ramsey, JNo, and TPC and I think a LOT of our woes dissapear! BOM!!!

 

Money. Outspoken. Real life. All good points as to why not... But how bout why ya?

 

 

Feel free to move if in the wrong subforum... 

HTTR

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Not sure if they'll take a straight up 1 for 1 trade lake that, especially given Trent's age. We'd probably have to throw in AT LEAST a 2nd, which we don't have, or a 1st, which we cannot afford to do.

 

Even though I'd like Ramsey on this team and he can definitely help this atrocious secondary, I don't know if we can make it work without shooting ourselves in terms of draft capital.

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Maybe Trent Williams + Josh Norman, and a 3rd would be sweet enough? A Moreland/Ramsey tandem could be very good.

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There's absolutely no use in bringing in top flight talent if the coaches aren't going to use those guys in a way that fully utilizes that talent. Too many times, we've drafted or picked up a guy in FA, only to ask him to do things that were counter to the reasons why he was a coveted player. We can't get out of our own way. 

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1 hour ago, skinzplay said:

There's absolutely no use in bringing in top flight talent if the coaches aren't going to use those guys in a way that fully utilizes that talent. Too many times, we've drafted or picked up a guy in FA, only to ask him to do things that were counter to the reasons why he was a coveted player. We can't get out of our own way. 

 

We are the kings of this. Acquiring a big time expensive player, then playing them out of the position that made them who they were, only for them to never repeat their former successes. Shocker. 

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Old broken down past his prime  LT for one of the best young corners in the game who's young? No way would that happen. 

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This isnt Madden. This trade makes sense if it's 2012-2015. Ramsey is an All Pro CB. Trent, while still good, is  an aging, increasingly worn down, past his prime LT. Anyone on the Jags who did that deal would be summarily executed

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5 hours ago, CowboyKillerz said:

I cant be the only one kicking around the notion... Tdub is checked the F out, and not missed so much on that side of the line. Jags need a probowl T, and we need help at corner.

The dream-

Norman looks MUCH better with an actual cb1 covering the wr1- and that helps the Dline- and that helps the D actually help the O... And now we dont suck?! Yay!

We already have waaay to much money tied up in Norman and Collins- but still, we are playing a 58 year old as a starter opposite of Norman and expecting to not get torched?

 

Give me Ramsey, JNo, and TPC and I think a LOT of our woes dissapear! BOM!!!

 

Money. Outspoken. Real life. All good points as to why not... But how bout why ya?

 

 

Feel free to move if in the wrong subforum... 

HTTR

 

The only team that will give away an All-Pro Corner for a Tackle who hardly finishes the season are the Skins.

 

Unfortunately, the Skins are on the opposite side of the deal. 

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

This isnt Madden. This trade makes sense if it's 2012-2015. Ramsey is an All Pro CB. Trent, while still good, is  an aging, increasingly worn down, past his prime LT. Anyone on the Jags who did that deal would be summarily executed

 

Not 100% coming at you, but it’s funny, the “this isn’t Madden” statements aren’t as relevant these days, due to teams operating more like “Madden” players lol.

 

Your thoughts on Williams are subjective. Williams still grades out as an elite LT and has experienced no serious significant lower body injuries. Big guys (Olineman) that move like Williams have a much longer shelf life than others. Think Jason Peters. 

 

You may be right though, the Jags May value draft compensation over a player entering most likely his final contract window. Maybe if they would’ve pulled out the win last week a greater motivation to make a trade for Williams would be present. 

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17 minutes ago, WilberMarshall said:

 

The only team that will give away an All-Pro Corner for a Tackle who hardly finishes the season are the Skins.

 

Unfortunately, the Skins are on the opposite side of the deal. 

 

My thinking exactly!

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Why would the Jags want to make that trade? Foles is done until at least mid November, and by that time it's likely they aren't even in it any longer.

 

Why would the Skins want to make that trade? A splash maybe.  But I can't wrap my head around why fans would want it.  The dude is a certified pain in the ass, what makes you think he'd come here and fall in line?  Beyond that, he wants to be the highest paid corner in the league.  Just no.

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Honestly, I don't know why we're even talking about this. There is zero chance he goes anywhere but NE, and it'll be an incredibly one-sided deal. a 4th or something like that. And he'll get in line. And the Pats will go undefeated. 

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4 minutes ago, benskins26 said:

Honestly, I don't know why we're even talking about this. There is zero chance he goes anywhere but NE, and it'll be an incredibly one-sided deal. a 4th or something like that. And he'll get in line. And the Pats will go undefeated. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

Not 100% coming at you, but it’s funny, the “this isn’t Madden” statements aren’t as relevant these days, due to teams operating more like “Madden” players lol.

 

 Maybe in terms of boldness, buy not in terms of lopsided trades. Deals like these get people fired, especially tor a team like Jacksonville, who isn't really going anywhere this year, and is letting their best player go, for one at a different stage of his career

 

 

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Your thoughts on Williams are subjective. Williams still grades out as an elite LT and has experienced no serious significant lower body injuries.

 

I'm ok with giving you the "Still elite" tag, though Im not sure I agree (but would have to spend time going over whatever criteria you used to make that assessment in order to make a counterargument).

 

But,  it's a testament probably to Williams toughness, all that he's played through recently, being able to stay on the field l, enduring various injuries, and I absolutely believe those take a toll, season ending (you didnt use that term, but I'll assume thats what you meant) or not.

 

 

I agree with the rest though, the only way a trade like this makes sense is if its something like Bailey-Portis, and even then, a draft pick was still involved.

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

 

 

I agree with the rest though, the only way a trade like this makes sense is if its something like Bailey-Portis, and even then, a draft pick was still involved.

 

The team getting the far better player, who wasn’t going to resign, got the draft pick, though. 

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I said in the TW thread when it came across the wire I'd do it in a heartbeat BUT the Mincah Fitz trade was for a 1st and 3rd 2020 then 6th 2021 from Pittsburgh.  

 

It's never gonna happen.

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3 minutes ago, HigSkin said:

I said in the TW thread when it came across the wire I'd do it in a heartbeat BUT the Mincah Fitz trade was for a 1st and 3rd 2020 then 6th 2021 from Pittsburgh.  

 

It's never gonna happen.

 

Fitz is younger, cheaper, & more versatile. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, volsmet said:

 

The team getting the far better player, who wasn’t going to resign, got the draft pick, though. 

 

Right, im speaking hypothetically there. I think they'd laugh at us and hang up.

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