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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Skins Can't Win With These Coaches

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28 minutes ago, illone said:

Here is the other question...

 

Can the redskins win with ANY coaches?

 

Define "win."

 

Win games and make the playoffs? Occasionally... when the rest of the Division is on a down year. Win the Super Bowl? Nope.

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The Redskins definitely need a whole new coaching staff but who is going to take a job? Gruden is a terrible HC and doesn't know how to design a game plan nor make in-game adjustments. He is too soft on his players and doesn't hold them accountable to their miscues or mistakes. Poor tackling, too many penalties and lacking any urgency.  I have been a Redskins fan since 1966 and have never seen such a poorly prepared team as this team. I have supported this team and still do but someone needs to be fired if they lose to the Giants. The players will say it is there responsibility because they are the ones playing but bad coaching will lead to losing. A game plan changes during a game and this bunch of coaches are out coached  in every aspect. 

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Watching good morning football weekend edition. DHall was on there. Trashed Norman and the Skins D multiple times. Talked about Breeland and Fuller and how well they played in KC and said maybe it’s not the players maybe it’s the coaching and then said that’s a shot at Washington not KC 

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So tell me again how this performance is Bruce Allen's fault?  Jay is a nice guy?  He is calling plays when he should be managing a game that is another embarrassment.  Penalties? Check downs short of a first down?  Dan and Bruce are horrible at what they do, but not having your team ready to play and play sloppy is all on Jay.  Communication is still an issue on defense, guess what Jay, take off your play-calling headset and do your job for a change, let those little things drop back into place and have someone else call the Offense and Defense.  This isn't working. Oh, but your a nice guy Jay and it's not your fault.

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I’m officially off the keep Gruden bandwagon. He is a sickness making everything worse. No one wants to fight for him and that can’t be good for our young players.

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This team isn’t beating anybody with any coaches. Look at our friggin offense. We don’t have an NFL ready quarterback, Peterson is done (Jay was right about that), bunch of rookie WRs, OL who would be depth on most teams, and a Jeremy Sprinkle.

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It wouldn't surprise me if some top college teams could beat the current Redskins.

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Did Jay talk to Dwayne on the sidelines at all?  I saw KCO with him on the bench talking to him.  I'm just curious, and if he didn't it just speaks to his leadership.  He is weak and needs to be gone.  Anyone at this point is not going to lead a turnaround, but having a coach such as this is bad for the team. 

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3 minutes ago, Jhans76 said:

Did Jay talk to Dwayne on the sidelines at all?  I saw KCO with him on the bench talking to him.  I'm just curious, and if he didn't it just speaks to his leadership.  He is weak and needs to be gone.  Anyone at this point is not going to lead a turnaround, but having a coach such as this is bad for the team. 

All year, Gruden seems to have been pouting. He absolutely doesn't want to run Peterson or play him. He absolutely did not want to play Haskins or prepare him to be the Redskins QB. I've never seen a situation where they didn't try to make the rookie number one draft pick shine at all. There's no playbook ready to execute what Haskins does well. He's an afterthought to Gruden.

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29 minutes ago, D’Pablo said:

I’m officially off the keep Gruden bandwagon. He is a sickness making everything worse. No one wants to fight for him and that can’t be good for our young players.

Welcome to where you should have been 2016.  He's awful. I refuse to believe Sean McVay would not have been at least somewhat successful here.  Maybe not SB appearance successful but 1-2 playoff berths or seasons laying the groundwork for success.

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Just now, Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin said:

Welcome to where you should have been 2016.  He's awful. I refuse to believe Sean McVay would not have been at least somewhat successful here.  Maybe not SB appearance successful but 1-2 playoff berths or seasons laying the groundwork for success.

 

Ha. I was there in 2016. I never thought Gruden should have been hired. It was only after we drafted Haskins that I thought maybe we needed him to stick around. After today, not so much.

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This is without a shadow of a doubt the worst Washington Redskins football team I have ever seen, and considering the fact that im 31 and am used to atrocious Redskins football, that is saying something...

 

They may not win for a long time, if ever.

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4 minutes ago, Burgold said:

All year, Gruden seems to have been pouting. He absolutely doesn't want to run Peterson or play him. He absolutely did not want to play Haskins or prepare him to be the Redskins QB. I've never seen a situation where they didn't try to make the rookie number one draft pick shine at all. There's no playbook ready to execute what Haskins does well. He's an afterthought to Gruden.

Gruden is a ****, has been the entire time.  He gets too much credit for Dalton, he can design a play but he can't CALL plays and can't coach as a leader.  He's really awful and has been the entire time.  The fact that we passed on up on hiring McVay is still painful to me and I only wish Snyder were as impulsive as they used to claim because he'd have been fired 2-3 years ago and we'd at least have some hope or some ability to truly evaluate where we are now.  

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Jay's overall body language at the press conference is just horrible.  He is giving off the perception he doesn't care, but it would be better if injured players were here.  At least he admitted he called a horrible game, but we all know he won't do anything to fix that (give up play calling). 

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3 minutes ago, D’Pablo said:

 

Ha. I was there in 2016. I never thought Gruden should have been hired. It was only after we drafted Haskins that I thought maybe we needed him to stick around. After today, not so much.

Ok, understood. :cheers:

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