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"Offensive Genius" Spurrier: Meet the real Washington Redskins


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Steve Spurrier is about to set a modern-day Redskin record: the coach leading the Redskins to the fewest games with more than 27 points scored in any two-year period. If the Redskins fail to score 28 points in either of their final two games, the record will be his.

What does that mean?

Every Redskin coach since 1959-60 has led the Redskins to more than 27 points more times than Spurrier has, over a two-year period.

Spurrier's team has scored more than 27 points only three times in two years: twice in 2002 (31, 31) and once this year (33).

All this from what the media called the biggest offensive genius in football at any level. :doh:

Well, Mr. Spurrier: allow me to introduce the real Washington Redskins. The ones who set our proud tradition in motion. The ones who put us here, even now -- because we remember.

More than 27 points scored in a game

1961: 28, 34

1962: 35, 34

1963: 37, 28

1964: 35, 30, 28, 36

1965: 31, 34, 35

1966: 33, 33, 30, 72, 34, 28

1967: 30, 38, 28, 31, 37, 35

1968: 38

1969: 33, 28, 28, 34

1970: 33, 31, 33, 28

1971: 30, 38

1972: 33, 35

1973: 38, 28, 31, 33, 38

1974: 28, 42

1975: 41, 49, 30, 31, 30

1976: 31, 30, 37

1977: (zero)

1978: 35, 28, 38

1979: 30, 34, 38, 34

1980: 40, 31

1981: 30, 42, 33, 30, 38, 30

1982 (strike): 37, 28

1983: 30, 37, 38, 47, 38, 45, 33, 42, 28, 37, 31, 31

1984: 31, 30, 35, 34, 28, 41, 31, 30, 29

1985: 44, 30

1986: 41, 30, 28, 44, 41, 30

1987 (strike): 34, 28, 38, 34

1988: 30, 35, 33

1989: 37, 30, 32, 38, 29, 31, 29

1990: 31, 38, 41, 31, 42, 28, 29

1991: 45, 33, 34, 42, 56, 41, 34

1992: 34, 41, 28

1993: 38, 31, 30, 30

1994: 38, 41, 29

1995: 31, 34, 36, 35

1996: 31, 31, 31, 31, 34, 37

1997: 31, 30, 38, 35

1998: 28, 42, 29, 28

1999: 35, 50, 38, 48, 28, 28

2000: 35, 33

2001: 35, 40

Steve Spurrier:

2002: 31, 31

2003: 33

Here's the crying shame: Spurrier has probably been paid more in two years than all Redskins coaches in history put together.

Nice investment, Mr. Snyder.

And speaking of you, Mr. Snyder: notice a trend since you began exerting control in your first offseason, after the 1999 season?

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Our QB's over that time period,

Danny W.

Shane Mathews

Tim Hasselbeck

and Patrick Ramsey, who is still young and inexperienced.

In order for Spurriers system to work the QB must be talented and know the system well. Ramsey is talented, but is still learning the system and getting comfortable with it.

So I think we may need to back off Spurrier just a little bit. Be a little patient.

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Originally posted by ThatGuy

27 points??? :)

Why not 25? or 30??

27 points is a very common game score. I chose more than 27 points to isolate exceptionally good offensive performance. I could have chosen 30 with similar results.

The point is pretty simple and dramatic when compared to the last 40 years of Redskin football: the Redskins under Spurrier simply aren't scoring a lot of points in almost any of the games they've played.

Norv Turner easily outclassed Spurrier in that area, and Gibbs easily outclassed Turner.

What I find interesting about this historical view is that it gets around problems that can drag down the "average points scored in a year" -- such as Ramsey's injury that will probably deflate the 2003 average. What this particular stat shows is how many games did the Redskins score on all cylinders -- how often did the coaching and the system really work?

There are clear patterns here. For example, take the extreme example of Gibbs: in SEVEN different years, his teams scored more than 27 points SIX TIMES IN A SEASON.

Norv Turner is another interesting example. Despite his overall failing record with the Redskins, it's clear from this statistical view that Norv's system COULD work and often did with great success. In five straight seasons, his teams scored 27 points at least four times.

By contrast, Spurrier has achieved this bar of success only three times in two years. That's pretty overwhelming evidence that Spurrier's system/coaching almost never has worked in the NFL with any notable success.

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Originally posted by Henry

If ASF ever learns to properly implement the scientific method, God help us all. :)

it's: "make a hypothesis and then do research to fit your hypothesis, thereby proving it correct"

right? :silly:

no matter what number you put to it or how you come to your conclusion, the fact does remain that spurrier is not getting the job done. on that, i think we can all agree.

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In comparison of "second seasons".........

In the second year under Gibbs, the team scored more than 27 TWICE and that was a strike-shortened season. However in the second year under Spurrier, the team only eclipsed 27 ONCE. And we shouldn't have any reason to believe they'll do it in the last two games.

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Final scores don't tell the story of the point you are trying to make. Defense and special teams points count the same as offense.

Any idea how many scores our defense has this year?

One - the 2 point safety by Armstead.

The ST? One - the KR TD by Morton.

Take a random year 1995. The ST had a safety in one game, and a TD in another (in a game we scored 34 total). The D had a one TD game (dGreen Int TD in a game we scored 36) and a 2 TD game (we scored a total of 34 that game)

This year has to be the leanest year for D and ST scores in many years.

It aint always the O that scores the points. In this year's case, however, it just about always is.

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All you all getting on ASF about about his Hasselbeck endorsement last week need to chill. If I'm not mistaken the vaunted Michael Vick had a quarterback rating of 19 against Indy last Sunday.

Does that mean Vick sucks. No. Would you take Vick. Yes. Was Hasselbeck useless last Sunday? Yes. That still does not take away what he accomplished in the games prior.

Hasselbeck is probably a back up? I rate him about even now. In each game he took five steps foward. Sunday he took fifteen steps back. He's even.

I do think he will struggle against the Eagles. Wew! They are straight disruptive.

Keep busting out those stats ASF. You do do your research.

NewEra.

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Newera, we were getting on ASF about his endorsement because it was based on three games' worth of data. Now, that the data after four games is not so favorable, we should wait and see? Well, wait and see is pretty much what the rest of us have been saying this whole time.

I'm glad we now all agree.

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