Gibbs828791 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The idea we missed out on some 1st rounder last year is looking like wishful thinking stated by some as fact in the media. Kiem and now I heard Cooley today say a 3rd rounder last year nothing higher! TW contract demand was always killing the trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I'd do a 3rd and a future 2nd. Someone has to bite on that, Trent is way better than anything you'll get in the 3rd round this year and the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Wolffe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: I'd do a 3rd and a future 2nd. Someone has to bite on that, Trent is way better than anything you'll get in the 3rd round this year and the next few years. If we dont acquire a 2nd then I would make him play this year. He has to perform well if he wants a new deal next year. At which point we can trade, tag and trade or simply receive a comp pick. All with getting motivated production from him this coming season and allow us an additional year to address LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, SkinsFootball said: If we dont acquire a 2nd then I would make him play this year. He has to perform well if he wants a new deal next year. At which point we can trade, tag and trade or simply receive a comp pick. All with getting motivated production from him this coming season and allow us an additional year to address LT. I really want a 2nd this year, there's a lot of guys I think can be quality pieces to our team in the 2nd round in the 2020 draft. Nobody is biting though and it's frustrating because teams want to steal him instead of making a fair trade. I don't think Trent will sit out this year, if he wants another NFL contract even close to what he thinks he's worth he'll play. The problem with relying on the franchise tag is that means we have to be conservative in FA, I don't see that happening so I'd like a trade get done because he's gone after next year no matter what in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: I really want a 2nd this year, there's a lot of guys I think can be quality pieces to our team in the 2nd round in the 2020 draft. Nobody is biting though and it's frustrating because teams want to steal him instead of making a fair trade. Thing is, getting Trent for a 2nd is getting him on the cheap. He's worth way more than that. He's a probowler and a borderline hall of fame caliber tackle. A second is more than fair. What teams are trying to do is screw the 'skins because Trent wants an arm and a leg and they think they have the 'skins over a barrel because they pretty much have to get rid of him. Bruce should have traded Trent to Houston last year. We would have gotten a first plus. Sucks, but that's where we are. Now, we will probably get chump change or nothing. Mind you if nothing means Trent comes back to play that's not a bad nothing, but still... The Redskins and Trent Williams both misplayed their hands really badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: I'd do a 3rd and a future 2nd. Someone has to bite on that, Trent is way better than anything you'll get in the 3rd round this year and the next few years. I'd rather Trent be our LT then get some 2nd round pick....We can hit the ground running hard if TW buys in. This has to be killing him to watch all these players changing teams while he sits watching..... 6 minutes ago, Burgold said: Thing is, getting Trent for a 2nd is getting him on the cheap. He's worth way more than that. He's a probowler and a borderline hall of fame caliber tackle. A second is more than fair. What teams are trying to do is screw the 'skins because Trent wants an arm and a leg and they think they have the 'skins over a barrel because they pretty much have to get rid of him. Bruce should have traded Trent to Houston last year. We would have gotten a first plus. Sucks, but that's where we are. Now, we will probably get chump change or nothing. Mind you if nothing means Trent comes back to play that's not a bad nothing, but still... The Redskins and Trent Williams both misplayed their hands really badly. And they deserve each other....Trent will love it if here if he just opens his mind and moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Let him sit and watch. Dunbar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Let him sit and watch. Dunbar too. Now that really would be cutting off our noises. Is that you Bruce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Seems like he's coming back at this point. What a crazy ride this has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Don't forget, even if he starts the year with us there is a trade deadline in season. The one we pretended to want to trade him last year. He should be motivated to maul people with us and treat it like an extended tryout for other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 He’s getting traded today or tomorrow. That’s my prediction. We’ve dicked about for long enough. We’re chipping away at the low end FA market right now waiting on something. This trade could be the catalyst. Get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, nonniey said: Now that really would be cutting off our noises. Is that you Bruce? Now you have cap room. You are in a rebuild. You are setting a new tone. You don't do that by becoming a charity to an unhappy well paid player. He needs to go out, find himself a team that will pay him AND give Washington what they want in return. The nose was cut off a year ago. Now it's as much about other players on the roster as it is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, nonniey said: Now that really would be cutting off our noises. Is that you Bruce? How so? This team is now in rebuild mode, from the FO attitude to the players on the field. It’s not as if a Super Bowl or even playoffs are in the cards. The players need to know this isn’t Brucie Boy or the useless Norval Gruden running things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 He needs to be gone, otherwise Rivera is going to make the same day 1 mistake as Shanahan did. Eventually, the culture and message you are sending to other 52 becomes more valuable than the pick you could get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 What do you all think of this : We address a bunch of needs, including a young LT to groom as the next replacement at the position, who may not be ready to start for a while...but because we can't fill all our needs right away, Penn comes back as a stopgap for just 1 more year ? https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/donald-penn-reportedly-wants-push-retirement-open-return-redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: What do you all think of this : We address a bunch of needs, including a young LT to groom as the next replacement at the position, who may not be ready to start for a while...but because we can't fill all our needs right away, Penn comes back as a stopgap for just 1 more year ? https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/donald-penn-reportedly-wants-push-retirement-open-return-redskins I'm fine with Penn returning....lets do it. Meanwhile, hold on to Trent and let other teams see that we have our bases covered and won't budge from our compensation demands. It's game on now. We gave Trent permission to seek a trade and his jackass agent went out and coupled that with a demand for 20 mil a year? Total screw up by the agent. Find a deal for your client then talk extension, or just find a trade partner and play one year then become a free agent. Don't put a price on your client to kill a deal before it even develops....The Skins have said they are willing to negotiate, sounds like Trent and his agent aren't. That's bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 He should have played last year. He would have been gone by now thru a trade. His timing sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: What do you all think of this : We address a bunch of needs, including a young LT to groom as the next replacement at the position, who may not be ready to start for a while...but because we can't fill all our needs right away, Penn comes back as a stopgap for just 1 more year ? https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/donald-penn-reportedly-wants-push-retirement-open-return-redskins That ship has sailed. After the Lucas signing, it makes no sense right now to bring Penn back. It's not that Lucas is good, it's that Penn isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: That ship has sailed. After the Lucas signing, it makes no sense right now to bring Penn back. It's not that Lucas is good, it's that Penn isn't good. There is serious talk that Lucas may be pushing for Moses' job, not the LT opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean 3621 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 22 hours ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Let him sit and watch. Dunbar too. I’d go get his replacement regardless and make him play LG or give him a new deal that would make trading him next year easier 3 year deal 15-17 million first year 18-20 million second year (incentive laden) same for year three We get Trent back for 15 million the first year, he proved he’s worth trading for and has a two year deal making him easier to trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sean 3621 said: I’d go get his replacement regardless and make him play LG or give him a new deal that would make trading him next year easier 3 year deal 15-17 million first year 18-20 million second year (incentive laden) same for year three We get Trent back for 15 million the first year, he proved he’s worth trading for and has a two year deal making him easier to trade I guess anything is possible but your proposal would mean both sides have to be willing to do a contract extension and I don't think either side is willing to at this point. It seems to me that TW is gonna need to come back and talk with RR again to fill him in on what he learned these past two weeks while searching for a trade partner. This is looking more and more like a guy who doesn't love the game anymore and is trying to get what he can. Many posters have already said this but it just seems to be getting more clear. One thing is for sure to me, we just can't settle and give him away, not after the way he has handled everything and hung the team out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean 3621 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, kingdaddy said: I guess anything is possible but your proposal would mean both sides have to be willing to do a contract extension and I don't think either side is willing to at this point. It seems to me that TW is gonna need to come back and talk with RR again to fill him in on what he learned these past two weeks while searching for a trade partner. This is looking more and more like a guy who doesn't love the game anymore and is trying to get what he can. Many posters have already said this but it just seems to be getting more clear. One thing is for sure to me, we just can't settle and give him away, not after the way he has handled everything and hung the team out to dry. Yea I’d rather move on from this guy at this point but not for free. I’d tell him to except a deal or be prepared to be playing special teams, LG,FB or any other crap position I can think of maybe we try you out at CB. I’ll have your big ass out there running go routes against Terry. Either swallow your pride and take our deal or find a trade now! Who knows who we’ve missed out on already much less going forward how. This situation needs to be fixed ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sean 3621 said: Yea I’d rather move on from this guy at this point but not for free. I’d tell him to except a deal or be prepared to be playing special teams, LG,FB or any other crap position I can think of maybe we try you out at CB. I’ll have your big ass out there running go routes against Terry. Either swallow your pride and take our deal or find a trade now! Who knows who we’ve missed out on already much less going forward how. This situation needs to be fixed ASAP Jeez what the heck is wrong with many of you? You guys must have really liked Bruce Allen because this is how he acts. Would rather carry out some petty vindictiveness than do what is best for the team. If he plays for us this year he better damn well be our starting left tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, nonniey said: Jeez what the heck is wrong with many of you? You guys must have really liked Bruce Allen because this is how he acts. Would rather carry out some petty vindictiveness than do what is best for the team. If he plays for us this year he better damn well be our starting left tackle. What's best for the team is getting his fat, ungrateful ass off of it. Let him be someone else's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Hello Everyone! GM Mock draft starts at Noon tomorrow. Rosters will be locked down at Noon Tomorrow, First pick is at 12pm tomorrow!! Please send in your listS of preferred players to me or @goskins10 to keep the draft moving. Let’s really try to get through this with a little urgency. Best way to avoid Long waits is to just send us your lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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