ntotoro Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Is he suggesting NE won't make the paloffs without TW? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, carex said: if we were really desperately trying to win games then Penn's performance would have us trading Trent for players rather than either sitting him or sending him for picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, carex said: if we were really desperately trying to win games then Penn's performance would have us trading Trent for players rather than either sitting him or sending him for picks It's pretty rare for big time players (which Trent is) being traded for each other. It's typically picks. Some say the Texans offered Clowney but if so they'd inherit a player who could leave (unless he was tagged) let alone I doubt they saw (though after the first 2 games this season maybe that's changed) OLB as a top need. Having said that it doesn't sound out of place for the FO that a spitting match could be a key prime motive. So yeah it is plausible that "winning" the stand off is prime motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Also, Bruce was the one who released John Lynch, LOL. Good luck getting that deal done, hopefully, both sides can look away from the past and remember its business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibbidoe Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Blow it up. Trade any player 27+ who has good value, add as many draft picks as possible. Drop as much salary as possible. I want the new coaching staff/GM to have as much ammo as possible to build the team for 2021 and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: Also, Bruce was the one who released John Lynch, LOL. Good luck getting that deal done, hopefully, both sides can look away from the past and remember its business. The Jets just made a trade with Bill Belichick. If they can get past the amount of bad blood there, then any professional should be able to make deals regardless of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, ntotoro said: Is he suggesting NE won't win the Superbowl again without TW? 😂 I fixed it for you! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghedrick Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I hope this whole situation comes to an end.Wouldn't it be nice to send him for Ramsey and a second.I am also all for dealing Sherff I don't see the value of paying a guard 15 million a year get some picks and cap room.If Bruce plays this right we can get a few picks and ton of cap space by unloading these guys and cutting Reed and Norman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I would trade TW for Ramsey in a heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ghedrick said: I hope this whole situation comes to an end.Wouldn't it be nice to send him for Ramsey and a second.I am also all for dealing Sherff I don't see the value of paying a guard 15 million a year get some picks and cap room.If Bruce plays this right we can get a few picks and ton of cap space by unloading these guys and cutting Reed and Norman. I don't think Scherff is on the trading block. that would be news. People are just talking here about hypotheticals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 All we need is another record breaking contract at corner and all will be well. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: All we need is another record breaking contract at corner and all will be well. Sheesh. Ramsey is a diva. But I think he's better than Norman ever was including in Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Ramsey is a tremendous talent, but a couple of things: 1. He's a troublemaker and a jackass of the highest order. 2. He's about to require a gargantuan contract. 3. Don't think there's a chance the Jags aint gonna trade him for an aging Tackle. 4. If they did, they sure wouldn't throw in a pick to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Ramsey is a diva. But I think he's better than Norman ever was including in Carolina. Agreed on both fronts but I don’t see any positives to adding another big $ contract to what we’ve got going on around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I am not interested in trading the first round pick. And I'd rather have draft capital. but if its win or else season and they'd only trade Trent for players (don't know if that's the case or not) I'd be into Minkah or Ramsey if Trent is involved I gather it would have to be a three way trade. Probably pipe dream though. 11 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Agreed on both fronts but I don’t see any positives to adding another big $ contract to what we’ve got going on around here. Norman is off the books next year. The secondary is arguably the weak spot of the defense. We have no true shut down corners. Ramsey is a bonafide shutdown corner. But again am only interested if its a three way trade with us giving up no draft picks. That's unlikely. Edit: Just digested the blow up with Marrone, I'd pass based on that. Great player though. but probably has too much head case in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Putting a package together for Ramsey probably isn’t the smart or right move for this franchise, but it would be a very exciting move and, make no mistake...Ramsey would ball out. I like excitement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, CjSuAvE22 said: Christian is not doing anything in this league And neither is Moses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 two top corners want out of Florida, wonder if they'll dilute the market for each other I wonder if the players will do anything in the next CBA to make it easier to try to force trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I would think the Jags can be talked down a little bit on compensation because Ramsey is a head case, He is about to get PAID and AB couldnt even fetch a 2nd rounder. maybe something like a 2nd and 4th would get it done. Especially our picks, which figure to be REALLY high. 7 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Putting a package together for Ramsey probably isn’t the smart or right move for this franchise, but it would be a very exciting move and, make no mistake...Ramsey would ball out. I like excitement. Would love to see him lined up next to Collins. Half the field is basically dead to opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: I would think the Jags can be talked down a little bit on compensation because Ramsey is a head case, He is about to get PAID and AB couldnt even fetch a 2nd rounder. maybe something like a 2nd and 4th would get it done. Especially our picks, which figure to be REALLY high. Would love to see him lined up next to Collins. Half the field is basically dead to opponents. We have no second. We traded it for Sweat (unless I'm misremembering) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Money not paid to Trent this year, does that get rolled over to next years cap the same as when a team doesn’t use the cap??? The two game checks to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, wit33 said: Money not paid to Trent this year, does that get rolled over to next years cap the same as when a team doesn’t use the cap??? it does. That's basically how people are figuring us as having so much money this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: The more I think about the Scherff situation, the less I understand why we didn't work out an extension with him before the start of the season. I have been right with you on this. I got the feeling they planned to work out a deal before or during preseason but the Trent thing left them scared so they stayed away from Schreff. They should have traded Trent weeks ago. Yes front office incompetence, AGAIN. I'd love to get Minkah but no way Miami will want Trent. Not sure the Jags would have an interest in Trent. If they did bring in Ramsey. 33 minutes ago, Burgold said: We have no second. We traded it for Sweat (unless I'm misremembering) You are not misremembering.........I love that word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Norman and a 5th for Ramsey. Send TW to the Dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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