carex Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, megared said: It's over man. All of this stuff is already in the CBA. And Bruce's chronic mismanagement of the roster isn't enough to get it changed. And good luck getting buy in from the other GMs he screwed by not taking offers seriously. Most of the rabbit holes we've gone down, are pretty much unprecedented territory. Alot of this stuff was written for apocalypse scenarios that were never intended to actually occur. no it isn't because this is not something that's happened before, and if he can redefine what holding out and reporting is team owners would support them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Maybe if our so called "damn good culture" wasn't so toxic we could keep our elite tackle around and see him finish out his career here. He has several good years left and we could build around him but nope......this damn good culture runs good players and coaches away and we the fans are left with a 1 to 2 win team that has a front office that believes we suck because of circumstance beyond their control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: As much as I can understand TW not wanting to play here. He’s dead to me. And Bruce needs to be Bruce and go medieval on his ass and recoup every last penny he can plus fight for him not being able to get this year counted. F both these guys! Super wack we waited and got left waiting, we are the pinnacle of incompetence. I’m normally not a fan of can we all just get along, but in this case I think we need to give him an extension and up his guaranteed money and move on from the PR nightmare. Make it seem like it was about money and have the medical staff stuff die down. That’s what he smart play at this point in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, carex said: no it isn't because this is not something that's happened before, and if he can redefine what holding out and reporting is team owners would support them It's inapplicable to 99% of GMs and FOs because it'd never get to that point. It usually doesn't. And they define these sort of things in the CBA. Other than that, they pretty much roll with precedence from arbitration cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Sorry phone glitch and double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: I mean, I’ve been killing Bruce for years for being inept, but I actually held out some glimmer of hope that not even his dumbass would really let this thing end up here. That's what you get for being an optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Burgold said: If Trent refuses to play the Redskins ought to have an argument that he never reported. I said before the season started that when he finally started playing determined how I felt about how he handle this nonsense. He loses credibility with me completely if he reports and refuses to play then tries to claim a full year. He must be high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, SoCalSkins said: I’m normally not a fan we all just get along advocate, but in this case I think we need to give him an extension and up his guaranteed money and move on from the PR nightmare. Make it seem like it was about money and have the medical staff stuff die down. That’s what he smart play at this point in my opinion. Or maybe there's no extension to be worked out, because he wasn't after the money. The only chance they'd have to salvage the relationship is by immediately settling his fines and finding a path forward. It probably would've never even been a holdout if the FO had asked him to show up, waived his fines, and agreed to work towards a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, megared said: Or maybe there's no extension to be worked out, because he wasn't after the money. The only chance they'd have to salvage the relationship is by immediately settling his fines and finding a path forward. It probably would've never even been a holdout if the FO had asked him to show up, waived his fines, and agreed to work towards a trade. We are where we are regardless of how it could have been handled better. Money can quickly heal raw wounds players have. No one has said anything publicly that makes it impossible to recover. Throw money at it and no one will even remember it once the new league year starts in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 What about this FO strikes you as conciliatory? I'm sure they're sitting in Dan's office right now, plotting revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Trent for Adams in the off season? 😀 Too bad he's really a SS. We'd need a FS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I said before the season started that when he finally started playing determined hownibfwlt he handled husband of this nonsense. He loses credibility with me completely if he reports and refuses to play then tries to claim a full year. He must be high. You must have been high when you wrote this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 How much money is Trent making this season? How much did he forfeit by sitting out 8 games? I'm assuming he was getting fined. I don't think he should make anything frankly. He isn't going to come right in and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 55 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: At the very least, he can step on the field and play like a turnstile Nah, I don't think Williams would do that. Adrian Peterson is one of his closest friends. I doubt Trent would half-ass it out there and let his friend get his clock cleaned by some defensive player. Nor letting the QB get nailed by a defensive player. He would lose respect of all the other players if he took his grievance with the front office out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, megared said: Or maybe there's no extension to be worked out, because he wasn't after the money. The only chance they'd have to salvage the relationship is by immediately settling his fines and finding a path forward. It probably would've never even been a holdout if the FO had asked him to show up, waived his fines, and agreed to work towards a trade. If it wasn’t about money then he wouldn’t have shown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I think the FO botched it with Trent big time. But no way I am throwing more money to Trent to appease him. He has two years left on that contract. He was the highest paid LT in the league for a spell. You sign a long term contract and yeah that's how it rolls eventually someone get paid more at the tail end of the contact who is worse than you -- that's just the nature of FA. Keim talked about hearing that they want to extend Kerrigan. Wonder if they make a point to Trent in part by extending Kerrigan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, PartyPosse said: If it wasn’t about money then he wouldn’t have shown up. Disagree - it was about getting away from the Redskins and only thing he had in his power to do that was show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, megared said: What about this FO strikes you as conciliatory? I'm sure they're sitting in Dan's office right now, plotting revenge. They like their stars. Trent is Bruce’s first 1st round pick. I don’t think he wants his Hall of Fame first rounder walking out the door... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megared Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, PartyPosse said: If it wasn’t about money then he wouldn’t have shown up. It absolutely wasn't about the money. It's about him accruing a season, and being closer to the Redskins not controlling his rights. Otherwise he would've threatened to retire last off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 It’s a business. Trent tried to power play his way out with his timing. Bruce wanted to punish him so he held off trading him. Trent isn’t stupid and wants to accrue a year so he doesn’t get stuck in purgatory forever. Trent will take at least 2-4 weeks to get to in game shape, that takes us to week 12. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a legitimate injury that is grossly over exaggerated and he doesn’t play a single down this year AND he gets his year and the Skins get nothing. Morally it’s a different story. But from a business perspective Trent played this completely correctly and the Skins botched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, Panninho said: This is going to be fun... Good lord, they gonna go to arbitration now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said: Nah, I don't think Williams would do that. Adrian Peterson is one of his closest friends. I doubt Trent would half-ass it out there and let his friend get his clock cleaned by some defensive player. Nor letting the QB get nailed by a defensive player. He would lose respect of all the other players if he took his grievance with the front office out on the field. I know. Not his kind anyway, guy is a real football player. I was just going through the different possibilities of "reporting to the team, and still **** the team up one way or another". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, KDawg said: So... let me get this right given the reaction of this thread: 1) Some of you thought we’d get a first rounder + AT the trade deadline for Trent Williams And 2) Some of you thought he wouldn’t show up and that he wouldn’t accrue a season just because he’s upset with the team... and he’d rather stay home and keep his contract at 2 years going into next season. None of this is surprising. Yep all pretty much expected from where we were for the last few weeks really. The one surprise to me - if true - is he has ‘reported’ but is refusing to play. He probably had better lawyers in his team than I do (I don’t have any) - but to me that means he’s not reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: You must have been high when you wrote this. Doing too much, I edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, Burgold said: If Trent refuses to play the Redskins ought to have an argument that he never reported. That's what I am thinking. I know that PFT article brought up the Joey Galloway situation from a few years ago but didn't Galloway play that year? I find it hard to believe that the NFL would allow this to be called "a year" if he does nothing but walk in and out of Ashburn Park once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.