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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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!!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

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Just now, desertbeagle85 said:

Cool can Fitzpatrick play on the oline as well? 

 

If we trade a 1st rd pick for this guy. This organization is for ever doomed. 

 

If Flowers can do it ...

 

 

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1 minute ago, volsmet said:

 

If Flowers can do it ...

 

 

 

If Flowers can do what? I'm not even talking about Flowers. He hasn't even been the problem. The rest of the line has. 

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Why are so many fans eager for them to trade away picks? The team stinks. Will most likely end up with a high pick every round. They already don't have a 2nd next year.

 

The organization isn't close to winning, despite what they think. Ramsey or Fitzpatrick isn't going to change that.

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I love this idea lets go into next year cleaning house. Hire a new coaching staff and GM. Real appealing for a new staff no 1st rd pick or 2nd rd pick. 🙄

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3 minutes ago, Makaveli said:

Why are so many fans eager for them to trade away picks? The team stinks. Will most likely end up with a high pick every round. They already don't have a 2nd next year.

 

The organization isn't close to winning, despite what they think. Ramsey or Fitzpatrick isn't going to change that.

 

Because the fan base would rather get something new and flashy instead of getting wins. 

2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Fitz traded to the Steelers

 

For a 1st rd pick 

 

Thank god that is over. Let the Steelers be the dumb team.

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Fitz is a good player and all but glad we dodged that one.No way should we trade our first for guy like that at this point.

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3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Fitz traded to the Steelers

 

 

 

Snyders master plan is finally coming into play. All we have to do is keep our staff and training staff intact. Then..out-lose the Dolphins. Miami will have accumulated 6 first round picks and then we'll just trade back from our #1 slot for a boatload of picks. Problem solved

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1 minute ago, desertbeagle85 said:

 

If Flowers can do what? I'm not even talking about Flowers. He hasn't even been the problem. The rest of the line has. 

 

This is the kind of post that gets me in trouble.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, desertbeagle85 said:

 

 

For a 1st rd pick 

 

Thank god that is over. Let the Steelers be the dumb team.

 

I didn’t want to trade our first round pick for him.  But I don’t think the Steelers were dumb to do it, he was the 11th pick in the draft 2 years ago and all he has done is live up to his billing. It’s not as if every 1st round pick is a slam dunk star. Fitzpatrick is 22 years old and still on a cheap contract.

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7 minutes ago, Makaveli said:

Why are so many fans eager for them to trade away picks? The team stinks. Will most likely end up with a high pick every round. They already don't have a 2nd next year.

 

The organization isn't close to winning, despite what they think. Ramsey or Fitzpatrick isn't going to change that.

 

Who is eager to trade picks? 

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I didn’t want to trade our first round pick for him.  But I don’t think the Steelers were dumb to do it, he was the 11th pick in the draft 2 years ago and all he has done is live up to his billing. It’s not as if every 1st round pick is a slam dunk star. Fitzpatrick is 22 years old and still on a cheap contract.

 

Fitz would be a top 10 lock in the upcoming draft, obviously.

 

Pitt with Rudolph, well done Miami.

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1 minute ago, volsmet said:

 

Who is eager to trade picks? 

 

Yep most of us on this thread are begging Bruce to add picks.  If only he’d listen. 🙄

 

 

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1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I didn’t want to trade our first round pick for him.  But I don’t think the Steelers were dumb to do it, he was the 11th pick in the draft 2 years ago and all he has done is live up to his billing. It’s not as if every 1st round pick is a slam dunk star. Fitzpatrick is 22 years old and still on a cheap contract.

 

The Skins aren't close and need there 1st rd pick. Glad he's going to the Steelers.

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4 minutes ago, desertbeagle85 said:

 

The Skins aren't close and need there 1st rd pick. Glad he's going to the Steelers.

 

Agree from the Redskins point of view.  but you said let the Steelers be the dumb one. I don’t think it was a dumb move for the Steelers.

 

Good move for Miami, too considering their mission.

 

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Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yep most of us on this thread are begging Bruce to add picks. 

 

 

I still think Bruce believes he has nothing to gain this year trading Trent.  Otherwise he would trade Trent either for a younger player or as many picks as he can get.  

 

If the Skins lose on MNF, which I know you have said they have a shot at winning, I think they’re going to turn that Mitch guy into Dan Marino, I think Bruce needs to sit down with Dan and see if he has a job next year.  If he does, he needs to start shedding players and salary cap at the trade deadline to get as many assets for next year as possible.  Because this team ain’t close and it’s time he calls a spade a spade.  If he doesn’t, I’ll fund the parade.  And somebody else should start shedding players and salary for picks ASAP.

 

If they win, it’s more complicated.  

 

The issue is the trade deadline is so early in the NFL season, you have to decide early if you’re buyers or sellers. 

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2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Agree from the Redskins point of view.  but you said let the Steelers be the dumb one. I don’t think it was a dumb move for the Steelers.

 

Good move for Miami, too considering their mission.

 

 

The Steelers are 0-2 and just lost Ben for the year. They might have just traded a top 10 pick for a CB. When draft day comes by next year. They might not be happy with what they just did. 

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Miami is loading up on picks.If only Bruce could do the same even if we turn it around at best this is 6 or 7 win team.We have no need for an ageing left tackle that don't want to be here.Trade him get some picks move on.Also Sherff,Kerrigan Norman,Moses and Reed should all be shipped out or cut as well.We can get blown out without them.I love Kerrigan but we should do him a solid he deserves better than us.Maybe if we get him to a winner he would get the credit he deserves.

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Thank the lawd for the Steelers. 

 

They saved ourselves from ourselves. We gonna need that high #1 pick to draft an LT in 2020

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9 minutes ago, Ghedrick said:

Miami is loading up on picks.If only Bruce could do the same even if we turn it around at best this is 6 or 7 win team.We have no need for an ageing left tackle that don't want to be here.Trade him get some picks move on.Also Sherff,Kerrigan Norman,Moses and Reed should all be shipped out or cut as well.We can get blown out without them.I love Kerrigan but we should do him a solid he deserves better than us.Maybe if we get him to a winner he would get the credit he deserves.

 

We should have been a year ahead of them, but Bruce gonna Bruce 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said:

Thank the lawd for the Steelers. 

 

They saved ourselves from ourselves. We gonna need that high #1 pick to draft LT in 2020

 

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4 hours ago, bowhunter said:

Then..out-lose the Dolphins.

No way the Fins will make it happen. Medias are now claiming they're on a 2 years tanking trip.

 

The person said the team continues to “wait out” Williams, believing he will eventually tire of missing game checks and incurring the fines that have piled up since he began missing training camp practices. The person also said Redskins owner Daniel Snyder does not want to renegotiate Williams’s contract as a way to end the holdout.  Link

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8 hours ago, desertbeagle85 said:

 

The Steelers are 0-2 and just lost Ben for the year. They might have just traded a top 10 pick for a CB. When draft day comes by next year. They might not be happy with what they just did. 

 

He's not just a CB.  Same conversation I used to have on the draft thread about Derwin James being just a safety.  He's a unique player.    He was picked with the 11th pick two years ago and no one said it was a reach, most had him as a top 10 pick and deservingly so.  Steelers have a short window to win with Big Ben.  His career isn't over.

 

I noticed on twitter some complementing the Steelers on the move, some panning them.  So mixed reception.    I think their move is fine.  Now I wouldn't have made it for the Redskins but that's for different reasons. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I still think Bruce believes he has nothing to gain this year trading Trent.  Otherwise he would trade Trent either for a younger player or as many picks as he can get.  

 

If the Skins lose on MNF, which I know you have said they have a shot at winning, I think they’re going to turn that Mitch guy into Dan Marino,

 

If they turn Trubisky into Marino then I think heads will roll.    I think they win the next 2 games.  Will see.

 

8 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I still think Bruce believes he has nothing to gain this year trading Trent.  Otherwise he would trade Trent either for a younger player or as many picks as he can get.  

 

 

Finlay made the case once that Bruce thinks this way just in general.  He talked about it both in advance and even in retrospect as for Kirk leaving.  He said in 2017 they knew Kirk was going to be gone after that season but had no interest in trading him because the way they see things on that front is that even 2 seasons away might as well be 20 seasons away.  It's all about the upcoming season.  The main thing is they knew they can win more in 2017 with Kirk on the roster than off the roster and that's all that mattered to them.  Finlay talked about it that summer in 2017 saying someone in the FO told them they have a year to year approach with their veteran players, they aren't concerned about 2 years out and it's a win now league. 

 

By the way as I am typing this Keim just said that Jay doesn't have the power from what he understands to remove Manusky, Bruce has to approve it. 

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I don't agree with Galdi about trading for a CB but I do agree with the playing the middle part.  I've seen a few people say that the FO are totally rebuilding but dressing up the rebuild just a little with the right mix of veterans.

 

I disagree.  I read somewhere that 19 rosters are younger than ours.  I do agree that they have a bunch of young building blocks, and that makes the future exciting if Haskins can develop.  But this isn't an all in rebuild.  Dan has never done an all in rebuild.  And you don't have to do it as dramatically as the Dolphins are doing it.  But trading Trent to me is a no brainer move if this team is truly leaning heavily towards rebuilding.  To me this team is playing it in the middle with a slight leaning (not heavy) towards rebuild. 

 

 

 

 

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