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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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!!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

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Don't trade for Tunsil, even if he's average he's going to want over 10M a year next year and probably hold out for a new contract, then Bruce will let him sit too.

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Some of these rumors are absurd imo. Bucs ain't trading Evans and the Texans ain't trading Hopkins.

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4 hours ago, abdcskins said:

Some of these rumors are absurd imo. Bucs ain't trading Evans and the Texans ain't trading Hopkins.

Well, what I heard was the Texans are going to trade Clowney for Evans straight up and turn around and trade Hopkins, Evans and their 1st picks in 2020 and 2021 to the Redskins for Trent.

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18 hours ago, carex said:

 

Trent may have lead to a healthy Smith, he missed the Texans game

 

But we finished with seven wins with Kirk and with Smith and co and Case took a team to the NFC championship so it seems viable

 

 

 

You called people clueless for thinking 4-6 wins as a prediction.  Could they viably win 7-8ish games, sure.  To assume it is silly.

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13 hours ago, volsmet said:

Maybe pff is out of line with their rankings & groupings too, maybe they don’t have enough ESperts on staff. 

 

 

 

ESpert, I like that.

Did you just come up with that yourself ?

Or has it been around, and I'm late with the trend ?

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****ing Dolphins of they muddy the water of all the years

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18 hours ago, volsmet said:

Pff ranks us 23rd at cb.

 

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-secondaries-ahead-of-the-2019-nfl-season

 

Pff ranks us 14th on the Oline, with Trent Williams starting in the highest valued position. 

 

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-entering-2019

 

 

 

Gets tough, I imagine, ranking units after the elite to good as it requires a great deal of projecting to take place, opening wide gaps of subjectivity. My guess teams 10 through 25 are pretty comparable and a particular years success will depend largely on parts around them and team success overall.

 

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I just don't see how we can trade Trent for a guy who immediately needs a huge contract. I know we technically could make more cap space with some high profile cuts

 

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three way trade: Williams to Texans, Clowney to Dolphins, Dolphins 1st rounder to us

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17 minutes ago, carex said:

three way trade: Williams to Texans, Clowney to Dolphins, Dolphins 1st rounder to us

 

Never happens but this would be fantastic. That's a top-5 pick in all likelihood

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Hope we can at least get 2 2nd rounders for him if not a first.  No one that seems available for trade excites me that much but really at this point, a bag of chips and a pepsi would be acceptable.  Tired of the guys holding out (in the league) that have years remaining on their contracts.  Wish we didn't have the salary cap so we could just cut the malcontents while having adequate backups.  

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The Dolphins trading away their #1 would be about the dumbest thing any team has done since the 2012 trade our buffoons did.

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36 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

Never happens but this would be fantastic. That's a top-5 pick in all likelihood

 

for the Dolphins to do something like that all their beat guys would have to be wrong about their intentions about treating their first rounder next year like gold.   supposedly they are in love with Tua and are well aware they have a top 5 pick or so in all likelihood.

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Tunsil, a 2nd, and a bong made out of an 1820s diving helmet for Trent Williams and a greenhouse in CO full of chronic...

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4 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Let's package Trent and AP to the Texans after that Miller injury. Least we can do. 

 

Love Peterson so would hate to include him but heck I'll sacrifice anyone to help the rebuild

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Can you see Bruce Allen about to pull the trigger on sending Trent to the Dolphins and being like..."Wait, just give me five minutes...Yeah, no, I'll call ya back, just need a few minutes."

 

**dials Trent's phone number**

 

"Hey, Trent...yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to talk to me...we're actually about to ship you to MIAMI.  Are you suuuuuuure you don't want to stay here? "

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Incarcerated Bob

 

Trent and AP best buds for Fuller and a 2nd. 

 

Ok **** it give us Hopkins duh.

 

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Looks as if whatever's going to happen will happen soon.

https://twitte

 

>>Two prominent players currently staying away from their current teams could be on the move.

Benjamin Allbright, a NFL Insider for KOA 850 AM & 94.1 FM in Denver, reported that Washington offensive tackle Trent Williams and Houston Texans linebacker Jadeveon Clowney could be on the move soon. He added that both players have multiple suitors.

 

"I suspect both the Trent Williams and Jadaveon Clowney situations are going to get wrapped up pretty quickly.

Both have multiple suitors."

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) August 23, 2019<<
 
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/08/nfl-rumors-texans-jadeveon-clowney-washingtons-trent-williams-on-the-move.html

r.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1165032048236449793

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Just now, SonnySideUp said:

Looks as if whatever's going to happen will happen soon.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I suspect both the Trent Williams and Jadaveon Clowney situations are going to get wrapped up pretty quickly. <br><br>Both have multiple suitors.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1165032048236449793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Welcome to the site, Sonny. Cool name.

I'll repost your twitter link since it didn't work

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Can you see Bruce Allen about to pull the trigger on sending Trent to the Dolphins and being like..."Wait, just give me five minutes...Yeah, no, I'll call ya back, just need a few minutes."

 

**dials Trent's phone number**

 

"Hey, Trent...yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to talk to me...we're actually about to ship you to MIAMI.  Are you suuuuuuure you don't want to stay here? "

 

No, I can't see that. lol I don't think he'd handle it like this. 

 

And I bet Trent would like not paying income taxes. It's like getting a new contract. 

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