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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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!!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

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3 minutes ago, volsmet said:

 

I think a good indicator of CB level, though not super exact, is Pass Defense Ranking.

Last year, our pass defense was ranked 15th in the NFL.

Not great, but not bad, and not nearly as bad as the CB ranking.

And we have the same starting corners this year. And upgraded Safety. So I think that's more meaningful, than their formula for rating our corners.

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On 8/22/2019 at 7:12 PM, Skinsinparadise said:

 

We need @volsmet to negotiate the deal.  Bruce apparently might not be loved over there in the Texan FO. 😀

 

If that's so, it reminds me some of the talk about the RG3 deal.  At the time it was said that someone with the Rams I think it was either their GM or Fisher who couldn't stand Bruce so others had to do the direct negotiation. 

 

I can see that.  

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Trying to talk football semi-seriously on the ES, always interesting. 

 

 

 

Kerrigan & Sweat aren’t viewed as LBs in any nfl fo, they’re DE’s. Who needs reality.

 

Maybe pff is out of line with their rankings & groupings too, maybe they don’t have enough ESperts on staff. 

 

 

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Who wants to bet me that if we trade for Evans, that Doctson doesn't make the team ? 😄

 

It does kinda sound like Tampa might be shopping for some OL

 

 

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5 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Oh good lord....there’s a rumor that redskins and Vikings are finalizing a deal to send Trent to them in exchange for Stefon diggs and a pick (@NFL_Trade_News on Twitter reported this rumor....i doubt this is true 😂

 

Trent for Diggs and Reiff has been my ideal trade all along. But I didn't start the rumor :806:

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Would love if any of these trade rumors finally materialize. Pull the trigger, Bruce.  Don't drag this deal out any longer and end up with zero in return. 

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1 hour ago, LetThePointsSoar said:

Would love if any of these trade rumors finally materialize. Pull the trigger, Bruce.  Don't drag this deal out any longer and end up with zero in return. 

 

Yep negotiation skills I don't think is Bruce's forte.   Ditto trades aside from moving up and down in the draft.  Prove me wrong Bruce.  I don't mind it dragging out until now.  This coming week is about the time frame that I considered makes sense.  But don't IMO drag it until the season, too risky I think. 😀

 

One of the rumors I saw on twitter the other day (thought I think it was just from some blog fan type was Trent for AJ Green.  I hope not.  But it would fit the win now drill.  The post below, that dude has 100,000 followers, so I take him a little seriously. 

 

Texans trading a receiver?   I saw some Redskins fans hyping Hopkins on twitter but to me no way they trade him.  He's arguably the best receiver in the NFL.  I wouldn't trade Hopkins if I were them and definitely not for Trent.  Maybe Will Fuller.  And I wouldn't make that trade if I were the Redskins.   Get some picks.  

 

Can we deputize @volsemt so he can make a deal with Chris Cooper?

 

 

 

 

 

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Do the Browns have any assets? As someone else pointed out they only have a handful of draft picks

 

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2020

Team Transactions
Round 1
Browns
Browns
 
Round 2
Browns
Browns
 
Round 3
Browns
Browns
 
Texans

Texans

Browns

Browns (conditional if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019)

 

PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE JOHNSON HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE FOR 10 GAMES IN 2019

 

Traded • Duke Johnson to Texans for • 2020 conditional round pick (third round if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019, else fourth round) (?-?) on 2019-08-08

Round 4
Browns
Browns
 
Texans

Texans

Browns

Browns (conditional if Johnson is active for fewer than 10 games in 2019)

 

PICK WOULD TRANSFER BECAUSE JOHNSON HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVE FOR 10 GAMES IN 2019

 

Traded • Duke Johnson to Texans for • 2020 conditional round pick (third round if Johnson is active for 10 games in 2019, else fourth round) (?-?) on 2019-08-08

Round 5
Browns
Browns
 
Round 6
Browns
Browns
 
Cardinals
Cardinals
Browns
Browns

 

Traded • Jamar Taylor to Cardinals for • 2020 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2018-05-18

Round 7
Bills
Bills
Browns
Browns

 

Traded • Corey Coleman to Bills for • 2020 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2018-08-05

Browns
Browns
 

 

https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Future/Browns.htm

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42 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Yeah, the Bucs O-Line was completely abysmal last night.

 

OJ Howard and a 2nd, maybe?

ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered 

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2 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said:

ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered 

Would it be to replace Jordan Reed? OJ Howard is a beast isn't he?... I sure wish Jordan Reed had a helmet that wasn't painted with a target on it.

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28 minutes ago, XxSpearheadxX said:

ooh a young stud TE is just what the doctor ordered 

 

Agree but I think zero chance Tampa trades Howard.  They got blocking issues and they trade one of the best blocking TE's in the league in his prime?  Be awesome but I doubt it.  I can see Evans though on the trading block. 

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Tunsil on the trading block in theory would dilute Trent's value some.  that would mean 2 LT's on the block, one who is 31 and the other 25.  I am guessing there has to be something cooking with Tunsil because he's a good young player in his prime -- they are worried about him and weed again or something?

 

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Hopkins ain't going anywhere my very long time best friend(huge phins fan)says the rumors of tunsil being shopped is poop

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27 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Hopkins ain't going anywhere my very long time best friend(huge phins fan)says the rumors of tunsil being shopped is poop

 

Not sure though how a fan would know.  I am in South Florida I know their sports writers writings fairly well -- Omar Kelly from the Sentinel is reliable typically I'll track him.  It would make their interest in Trent supposedly from awhile back make a little more sense.  But it still seems weird for them to want to deal him unless there is something about Tunsil they don't trust.  And I continually read about how obsessed the owner is with getting Tua so maybe they want to continue to add draft capital to make that easy. 

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4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Not sure though how a fan would know.  I am in South Florida I know their sports writers writings fairly well -- Omar Kelly from the Sentinel is reliable typically I'll track him.  It would make their interest in Trent supposedly from awhile back make a little more sense.  But it still seems weird for them to want to deal him unless there is something about Tunsil they don't trust.  And I continually read about how obsessed the owner is with getting Tua so maybe they want to continue to add draft capital to make that easy. 

Completely 100% agree with you as I sent that post in it hit me that it might look like I'm trying to say my friend is an Insider LOL and he's just a goofball Idahoan from Florida like me except for me I'm not from Florida lol.. I told him not to hold his hand over his ass

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This guy covers the dolphins for SB nation.   The guaranteed money part throws me off though if they are interested in Trent. Yeah Trent doesn't have much guaranteed money left but if you are trading for him I presume you intend to pay him, guaranteed money or not

 

 

 

 

Current Contract

Laremy Tunsil signed a 4 year, $12,457,650 contract with the Miami Dolphins, including a $7,260,109 signing bonus, $12,457,650 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,114,413. In 2019, Tunsil will earn a base salary of $2,148,770, while carrying a cap hit of $3,963,798 and a dead cap value of $3,963,798.

CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $12,457,650 SIGNING BONUS$7,260,109 AVERAGE SALARY$3,114,413 GTD AT SIGN:$12,457,650 TOTAL GTD:$12,457,650 FREE AGENT:2021 / UFA
  BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
YEAR   AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH  
2016 Contract details by year 22 $450,000 $1,815,027 $2,265,027 $12,007,650 $7,710,109($7,710,109)  
2017 Contract details by year 23 $1,016,257 $1,815,027 $2,831,284 $10,192,623 $1,016,257($8,726,366)  
2018 Contract details by year 24 $1,582,514 $1,815,027 $3,397,541 $7,361,339 $1,582,514($10,308,880)  
2019 Contract details by year 25 $2,148,770 $1,815,028 $3,963,798 $3,963,798 $2,148,770($12,457,650)  
2020 Contract details by year 26 $10,350,000 - $10,350,000 - $10,350,000($22,807,650)  

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