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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       

       
       
       
       
       
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!!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

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18 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Trent's buddy Antonio Brown is there so maybe he will recruit him. 

 

Medical staff are useless there too. No idea what to do with frost bitten feet.

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It is really tough to guess about trade compensation for Trent, or just about any NFL player these days.  I would have thought Antonio Brown would have cost more than a 3rd and 5th.  I would have said there is no way that Philly could get a 1st for Bradford.  Best hope for the Skins to get a 1st for Trent is if you have at least two teams that are serious about trying to get him.

 

I know a lot of Texan's fans are really wanting him to come to Houston.  However, I would guess they would hesitate to give up a first for him.  Primarily because they don't have a GM.  They are getting a lot of flack for giving up too much for a RB, and they might have trouble getting a good GM if you have already given away your 1st and 3rd round picks.  They also have a lot of good players that need extensions in the next year or two.  

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4 hours ago, max21 said:

I’m getting over this, trade the dude already so the talk can stop and we don’t have this drama going into the season. Get whatever you can for him

 

Does the talk really matter? This is what happens  every year with the Redskins. Once Trent is gone there will be something else with this organization. I'm not trading a probowl tackle for nothing, because of noise. That's what Trent and his agent want. He can enjoy watching football from his couch unless the Skins get a 1st Rd pick out of it. 

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Skins have control of TW as he signed a binding contract with them.  Again, around the 3rd or 4th season PS game is when he more than likely is traded to another team.  Yes, a 1st or 2nd and other draft picks will get him shipped to another team.  If not, TW doesn't get paid.

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13 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Skins have control of TW as he signed a binding contract with them.  Again, around the 3rd or 4th season PS game is when he more than likely is traded to another team.  Yes, a 1st or 2nd and other draft picks will get him shipped to another team.  If not, TW doesn't get paid.

 

Exactly all of these people talking about trading him for nothing is ridiculous. If the Skins did that it would prove really how bad this organization is. 

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I was thinking a trade with the Colts might be a good fit.  If Trent has been frustrated that the Skins never gave an effort to find a LG to help him out, they can say "If you want to spend the rest of your career next to the best LG in football, we just happen to have a rookie who was 1st team all pro last year".

 

The Colts also have Washington's 2nd round pick next year, in addition to their own.  How uncomfortable  would it be for Bruce to negotiate a trade where the Colts offer their own 2nd, but wouldn't offer the Skins second.  If you draw the line at a value of a high second... Is the Skins second considered enough?

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24 minutes ago, Nerm said:

I was thinking a trade with the Colts might be a good fit.  If Trent has been frustrated that the Skins never gave an effort to find a LG to help him out, they can say "If you want to spend the rest of your career next to the best LG in football, we just happen to have a rookie who was 1st team all pro last year".

 

The Colts also have Washington's 2nd round pick next year, in addition to their own.  How uncomfortable  would it be for Bruce to negotiate a trade where the Colts offer their own 2nd, but wouldn't offer the Skins second.  If you draw the line at a value of a high second... Is the Skins second considered enough?

 

He'd be betting against himself, too.  Approaching it as our second-round pick being any higher than 64th says more about Bruce's view on the team.

Of course he could just quit and everyone would be happy.

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5 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said:


Of course he could just quit and everyone would be happy.

 

If he really wants to troll Trent, Bruce could trade Trent and include himself in the trade to the Texans (who need a GM).

 

Bruce- "Ha Ha, I'm still the boss of you!"

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8 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/trent-williams-fine-missing-regular-season-and-will-not-play-redskins-period-sources

"He's not coming back. Period," said one source that had spoken directly to Williams. 

 

 

On Redskins kickoff a few minutes ago, Santana Moss said he spoke to Trent before the season and he said then "He's not coming back period" so Santana is the source.  He told the crew about the conversation so they all knew long ago.  Said he was in tears about how he almost died.  If so, sad but is he even healthy enough to trade?  Can he put a helmet on and is his knee okay.  Maybe that's a reason to wait this one out on a trade until he's completely healthy.  JMHO

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1 minute ago, TryTheBeal! said:

“Almost died”?!?

He almost had cancer so ergo he almost died?????

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1 minute ago, TryTheBeal! said:

“Almost died”?!?

 

Yeah that makes no sense.

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5 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said:

 

Yeah that makes no sense.

 

That's what Santana said...it was weird.

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Just now, JSSkinz said:

What an ignorant statement by Trent, he's being a baby.

 

 

Santana said that about a conversion with him.  Trent hasn't release any statement.

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8 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said:

 

Yeah that makes no sense.

 

2 minutes ago, HigSkin said:

 

That's what Santana said...it was weird.

 

1 minute ago, JSSkinz said:

What an ignorant statement by Trent, he's being a baby.

 

 

 

The more Trent overplays his hand, the easier it is believe that this really is about money.  Guaranteed money, to be specific.

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Just now, HigSkin said:

Santana said that about a conversion with him.  Trent hasn't release any statement.

I trust Moss, he wouldn't put something out there unless it was true, IMO.

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I saw some tweets a week or two ago that suggested Trent was advised by more than one Dr. that he should "Get his affairs in order" while he was awaiting the test results.  Who knows what actually happened, but it sounds like Trent is saying he thought it was very possible that he had a fatal condition.

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2 minutes ago, Nerm said:

I saw some tweets a week or two ago that suggested Trent was advised by more than one Dr. that he should "Get his affairs in order" while he was awaiting the test results.  Who knows what actually happened, but it sounds like Trent is saying he thought it was very possible that he had a fatal condition.

I'm sorry but this is hard to believe, it doesn't sound like something a doctor would say to someone until they 100% knew what the prognosis was.

 

There's no guessing with cancer and you definitely don't scare the crap out of someone while you're waiting for the results of the biopsy.

 

This is crazy talk.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

I'm sorry but this is hard to believe, it doesn't sound like something a doctor would say to someone until they 100% knew what the prognosis was.

 

There's no guessing with cancer and you definitely don't scare the crap out of someone while you're waiting for the results of the biopsy.

 

This is crazy talk.

 

 

 

I’ll push back against this lightly.

 

Doctors and nurses have to present the worst case scenario, generally.  The under promise/over deliver dynamic is a big part of solid bedside manner.

 

The problem is that Trent is using it as leverage.

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Maybe your right, who knows.  It just doesn't sound like something a doc would say to someone who hasn't even been diagnosed.  I could see if they are on their death bed or the test results came back and the outlook was grave but that wasn't the case at all.

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It really makes no sense to be this dug in over the medical staff. I’m a plastic surgeon and have treated thousands of skin cancers. First of all, there are no dermatologists on the immediate medical staff and so I don’t really get the misunderstanding over a questionable skin cancer diagnosis. They don’t have anyone qualified to make a diagnosis. While I’m skeptical of the skins front office, this has to be about much more, not simply the handling of a skin lesion. Trent should have know to go to a specialist. It’s pretty elementary!

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