Springfield Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It’ll be real funny when a Democrat becomes president, decides that they want to put republican opponents in prison because they ****ing want to and Republicans won’t be able to do anything about it because of Donald Trump. Careful what you wish for twa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Burgold said: We really need Republicans to stand up. There must be a line somewhere, right? You are dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Asteroid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 This story in reality is already over. At some point later this year, Trump will be impeached. The Senate will not remove him. It will be quick trial, probably a day or two. Trump wins electorial college over Elizabeth Warren in the fall of 2020. Elizabeth Warren wins the popular vote by at least 5 million. Trump gets impeached again in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Springfield said: It’ll be real funny when a Democrat becomes president, decides that they want to put republican opponents in prison because they ****ing want to and Republicans won’t be able to do anything about it because of Donald Trump. Careful what you wish for twa I point out the limits of powers and this is what I get? If two out of three agree I'm ****ed. 🃏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I’m running. My first act will be a constitutional amendment that twa has to spend the rest of his life in prison getting railed. Can I count on your support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, twa said: Nothing is unconstitutional until ruled so.....more so every day. They are co-equal....till they ain't. Congress can say they don't need to vote for impeachment inquiry and POTUS can say it is not valid w/o a vote. Neither position has been determined by the court....the other equal When was the last time something was ruled unconstitutional when "because we don't like it" was the reason? That's basically what the White House's entire argument is premised on at this point (well, that and handing out execution threats and accusations of treason). Where in the Constitution does it even mention anything about a House vote in order to proceed with an impeachment inquiry? What happened to "Strict Constructionism"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: . Where in the Constitution does it even mention anything about a House vote in order to proceed with an impeachment inquiry? What happened to "Strict Constructionism"? Why did they always vote to begin impeachment hearings in the past? Pelosi hopes to play the game with her thumb on the scale...if it is allowed then worse is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Stop the impeachment inquiry and we'll cooperate with the inquiry. I don't think these guys are on the up-and-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Stop the impeachment inquiry and we'll cooperate with the inquiry. I don't think these guys are on the up-and-up. Elect me president and I'll release my tax returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, twa said: I point out the limits of powers and this is what I get? If two out of three agree I'm ****ed. 🃏 There’s nothing in the constitution that says a president can’t jail his political opponents. Guess we’ll just have to leave it up to the courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, twa said: Why did they always vote to begin impeachment hearings in the past? Pelosi hopes to play the game with her thumb on the scale...if it is allowed then worse is coming. Completely different situations. In the case of Nixon the House Judiciary Committee had already spent many months investigating and gathering evidence before they actually voted on an official impeachment inquiry. They'd already been doing the inquiry but not "officially". The biggest difference was that then they didn't have a White House that literally said "**** you, we're above the law. I give you nothing at all, no matter how you ask or tell me to"; the Nixon WH was at least cooperating on some level, even if they pushed back on some things. It's pretty sad when you look back on the goddamn Nixon administration wistfully. With Clinton the impeachment inquiry was also basically already done before the vote. Difference is instead of the House doing their own investigation through the Committees as they are now, they did it through Starr. Star spent a long ass time on his investigation, finally found something they could charge Clinton with, and then gave his report to the House who then had a vote for an impeachment inquiry. It was signed, sealed, delivered. Done. They already had all of the documents and evidence they needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Springfield said: There’s nothing in the constitution that says a president can’t jail his political opponents. Guess we’ll just have to leave it up to the courts. Both the law and courts have weighed in on burden of proof and the limits of prosecution. Course that **** can change. 🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 To put it bluntly, if Trump gets away with refusing to cooperate then you might as well dissolve Congress. I’m sure twa might want a powerless Congress when they don’t align with his politics, but I don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Springfield said: To put it bluntly, if Trump gets away with refusing to cooperate then you might as well dissolve Congress. I’m sure twa might want a powerless Congress when they don’t align with his politics, but I don’t. Congress is far from powerless, or all powerful. They do have more power when they vote to do something though. 🏋️♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, mistertim said: With Clinton the impeachment inquiry was also basically already done before the vote. Difference is instead of the House doing their own investigation through the Committees as they are now, they did it through Starr. Star spent a long ass time on his investigation, finally found something they could charge Clinton with, and then gave his report to the House who then had a vote for an impeachment inquiry. It was signed, sealed, delivered. Done. They already had all of the documents and evidence they needed. I believe this is called: An actual ****ing witch hunt. 2 minutes ago, twa said: Congress is far from powerless, or all powerful. They do have more power when they vote to do something though. 🏋️♂️ Do you actually believe a vote would fail? And when it didn’t that suddenly the president would change his tune? Tell me you aren’t that naive. So let’s skip the bs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Springfield said: Do you actually believe a vote would fail? And when it didn’t that suddenly the president would change his tune? Tell me you aren’t that naive. So let’s skip the bs here. A vote officially changes things....ignore that if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, twa said: A vote officially changes things....ignore that if you wish. Did you read what the earlier call with the WH produced? The WH basically said "We might consider cooperating with a potential impeachment inquiry if the Democrats end their impeachment inquiry immediately. But we won't commit to anything". Yeah that seems legit. It's bull****. They're not going to cooperate, period. If the House passed an impeachment inquiry vote they'll just trot out some new lame ass excuse for why they won't turn over documents or allow people to testify. They're crooks and rotten to the core. We both know this. They've done nothing for 3 years but show it. Not just show it, but flaunt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 So vote......or piss and moan your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Springfield said: To put it bluntly, if Trump gets away with refusing to cooperate then you might as well dissolve Congress. I’m sure twa might want a powerless Congress when they don’t align with his politics, but I don’t. I'm in favor of dissolving the vast majority of our current congress. I suggest acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: This story in reality is already over. At some point later this year, Trump will be impeached. The Senate will not remove him. It will be quick trial, probably a day or two. Trump wins electorial college over Elizabeth Warren in the fall of 2020. Elizabeth Warren wins the popular vote by at least 5 million. Trump gets impeached again in 2021. Trump is going to stroke out way before then. Dudes head might explode this week. He's not nearly as tough as the guy he's pretending to be. His strategy is driven by fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: You are dreaming. Well, I'd still like to believe in the American dream anyway... sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 The ignore feature doesn’t work if some of you quote nonsense. Please y’all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 So, apparently on FOX News one of their experts called the attempt to impeach an act of regicide. I guess the question of democracy vs. monarchy has been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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