Going Commando Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, volsmet said: Dugger 65:1 to be S1 Davis 55:1 Chinn 10:1 Trautman 6:1 to be TE1 🤔 Not telling you how to bet, but my gut says Kmet will probably be TE1. He's such a New England-y pick. Then again, so is Trautman... He's got a little Gronk in him with all of those red zone jump ball touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I wonder if our OC can convince our GM that he needs him some Shenault, I’d be very pleased with Shenault in 3. Not my favorite possibility, but a talent that could help DH & a below average OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, HTTRDynasty said: I'd do it for a 4th depending on if we go WR at 66 or not. Haskins likes the idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I hope we can trade back in the 3rd and pick up an extra 4th. Haven’t been able to follow this thread as closely as most years. Thanks to all of you for contributing to what is easily the best thread on ES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Not telling you how to bet, but my gut says Kmet will probably be TE1. He's such a New England-y pick. Then again, so is Trautman... He's got a little Gronk in him with all of those red zone jump ball touchdowns. Yeah Kmet is the clear favorite, I just can’t lay that juice on him, the limits on props are too low to make anything worth following, when taking favorites, & I place Kmet as a -180/-200 to be TE1 & he’s at -333. Albert is the wild card. I think about a third of the league has Trautman at TE1, and +600 makes the price right on him. Still haven’t pulled the trigger, I appreciate the feedback, this thread has more value than the whole of Twitter this year. 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Saints, Jets, Jags, Atl... I have wagers to place, help me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 We aren’t hitting on exactly where guys go, but we ball parked guys pretty damn well. It’s been an exciting draft for us ES folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Haskins likes the idea... While not a fan of that tweet, at all, I suspect some will take their frustration with it a bit far ... I’m thinking, people more likely to buy a police scanner than a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, volsmet said: Yeah Kmet is the clear favorite, I just can’t lay that juice on him, the limits on props are too low to make anything worth following, when taking favorites, & I place Kmet as a -180/-200 to be TE1 & he’s at -333. Albert is the wild card. I think about a third of the league has Trautman at TE1, and +600 makes the price right on him. Still haven’t pulled the trigger, I appreciate the feedback, this thread has more value than the whole of Twitter this year. I'd put money on Kmet, too. But Trautman and Albert O are interesting in that if they hit the right team they could leapfrog Kmet because they are such specific flavors. I've soured some personally the more I digested Albert O but i admit if you want the freak athlete with upside, he'd be the guy. I love Trautman and I can see a team like NE or a run heavy team coveting him. Trautman is my top TE by a hair over Kmet. But the buzz seems to be Kmet is going first. Cooley worships Kmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 It's weird to be living in the age where players can express opinions online about potential roster moves, but we're just gonna have to get used to it. The league as a whole will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skin'emAlive Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 If we are sitting at 66 with Chinn Shenault Pittman Im going chinn, and taking Bryan Edwards later. We need a FS more than a stud 2nd wr. Let Collins help inside the box, and have Chinn/Dugger/Mckinney roam the field and ball hawk as our DL goes to work. I love what Sims brings to the table, and I could roll with Mclaurin/Sims/Hill/Harmon as a worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Four current NFL draft picks in Clemson's secondary (Simmons, Terrell, Wallace, Muse), two of them first rounders. Three NFL draft picks plus a fringe guy in Alabama's secondary (Surtain, McKinney, Diggs, Carter). And LSU shredded them. Four NFL draft picks in Ohio State's secondary (Arnette, Okudah, Fuller, Wade), two of them first rounders and Shaun Wade would have been a day two pick this year if he hadn't gone back. Plus a couple of decent players in their front seven, and Clemson beat up on them pretty hard. Five future or current NFL draft picks in LSU's secondary (Stingley, Fulton, Delpit, Stevens, Kary) plus first rounders at LB and DE, and Alabama shredded them. Maybe it's because we might not have a 2020 college season, but I think we're going to look back at 2019 as a special year where we simultaneously had four of the most loaded teams in CFB history competing for the championship. Alabama just had four guys drafted in the first half of the first round and they couldn't even make it to the CFB. The accumulation of talent on these four teams was crazy. Hopefully we get a broader level of competition in CFB, but it did lead to some incredibly competitive big game football last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Kmet is going to go to New England. It just makes so much sense. Then I bet they turn around and get Eason/Fromm and turn them into an all-pro at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, volsmet said: While not a fan of that tweet, at all, I suspect some will take their frustration with it a bit far ... I’m thinking, the kind of people who think Ronald Reagan was a great President. Let's leave the politics to the Tailgate. Even the older politics 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: If we are sitting at 66 with Chinn Shenault Pittman Im going chinn, and taking Bryan Edwards later. We need a FS more than a stud 2nd wr. Let Collins help inside the box, and have Chinn/Dugger/Mckinney roam the field and ball hawk as our DL goes to work. I love what Sims brings to the table, and I could roll with Mclaurin/Sims/Hill/Harmon as a worst case scenario. I think it also depends who else is out there, especially at OL. For me anyways. We’ve learned from Sims and Harmon that skill players can be found later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3rd round mock, Draft Network. Going through it I found a player who would bother me more than Claypool if they picked him in the third -- People-Jones. Another dude who IMO is an athlete but don't love as a receiver. At least Claypool had some production https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/reid-s-2020-nfl-mock-draft--day-2 65. Bengals Chase Claypool WR, Notre Dame 66. Redskins Lucas Niang OT, TCU 67. Lions K.J. Hamler WR, Penn State 68. Jets Curtis Weaver EDGE, Boise State 69. Panthers James Lynch IDL, Baylor 70. Dolphins Ashtyn Davis S, California 71. Patriots Cole Kmet TE, Notre Dame 72. Cardinals Prince Tega Wanogho OT, Auburn 73. Jaguars Jordan Elliott IDL, Missouri 74. Browns Willie Gay Jr. LB, Mississippi State 75. Colts Jonathan Greenard EDGE, Florida 76. Buccaneers Jacob Eason QB, Washington 77. Broncos Matthew Peart OT, UConn 78. Falcons Jabari Zuniga EDGE, Florida 79. Jets Troy Pride Jr. CB, Notre Dame 80. Raiders Kyle Dugger S, Lenoir-Rhyne 81. Raiders Jalen Hurts QB, Oklahoma 82. Cowboys Terrell Burgess S, Utah 83. Broncos Damien Lewis IOL, LSU 84. Rams Amik Robertson CB, Louisiana Tech 85. Lions Bradlee Anae EDGE, Utah 86. Bills Khalid Kareem EDGE, Notre Dame 87. Patriots Jake Fromm QB, Georgia 88. Saints Laviska Shenault Jr. WR, Colorado 89. Vikings Ben Bartch OT, St. John 90. Texans Davon Hamilton IDL, Ohio State 91. Raiders Leki Fotu IDL, Utah 92. Ravens Bryan Edwards WR, South Carolina 93. Titans Raekwon Davis IDL, Alabama 94. Packers Adam Trautman TE, Dayton 95. Broncos Malik Harrison LB, Ohio State 96. Chiefs Akeem Davis-Gaither LB, Appalachian State 97. Browns Lynn Bowden WR, Kentucky 98. Patriots Van Jefferson WR, Florida 99. Giants Logan Wilson LB, Wyoming 100. Patriots Antonio Gibson RB, Memphis 101. Seahawks Cam Akers RB, Florida State 102. Steelers John Simpson IOL, Clemson 103. Eagles Davion Taylor LB, Colorado 104. Rams Donovan Peoples-Jones WR, Michigan 105. Vikings Darnay Holmes CB, UCLA 106. Ravens Zack Moss RB, Utah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, KDawg said: Kmet is going to go to New England. It just makes so much sense. Then I bet they turn around and get Eason/Fromm and turn them into an all-pro at some point. Anyone who turns Jake Fromm into an All-Pro is not of this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, MartinC said: Let's leave the politics to the Tailgate. Even the older politics 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/reid-s-2020-nfl-mock-draft--day-2 If the Eagles finish up the first two days of the draft with Jalen Raegor and Davion Taylor, I will laugh with schadenfreude. If the Giants finish up the first two days with Andrew Thomas, Xavier McKinney, and Logan Wilson, I will be threatened and annoyed. If the Cowboys finish up with Ceedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs, and Terrell Burgess, I will feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, KDawg said: Kmet is going to go to New England. It just makes so much sense. Then I bet they turn around and get Eason/Fromm and turn them into an all-pro at some point. Hurts to NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just looking at what is left on the board. I am glad we traded for Sweat last year. There is no one left that I would take over him in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If the Eagles finish up the first two days of the draft with Jalen Raegor and Davion Taylor, I will laugh with schadenfreude. If the Giants finish up the first two days with Andrew Thomas, Xavier McKinney, and Logan Wilson, I will be threatened and annoyed. If the Cowboys finish up with Ceedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs, and Terrell Burgess, I will feel sick. My friend is going to need a mood stabilizer by the end of the evening. Just now, clskinsfan said: Just looking at what is left on the board. I am glad we traded for Sweat last year. There is no one left that I would take over him in all honesty. But there are several Vols on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: If the Eagles finish up the first two days of the draft with Jalen Raegor and Davion Taylor, I will laugh with schadenfreude. If the Giants finish up the first two days with Andrew Thomas, Xavier McKinney, and Logan Wilson, I will be threatened and annoyed. If the Cowboys finish up with Ceedee Lamb, Trevon Diggs, and Terrell Burgess, I will feel sick. That would suck. I think I've agreed with you more than anyone as for receivers in this draft. We got some of the same favorites with some nuance differences and both are critical of some of the same ones. And I've been very close opinion wise to @KDawg on TE from what I recall. If I recall my one major difference with @KDawg is he's higher on Albert O than I am. With you I think it's just Reagor. I see some of your criticism in that he doesn't always play tough, not a hot blocker, etc. My difference is that I think when he's on he's electric. And he can be tough, too. He's a really hot and cold player IMO including his toughness. But as a returner or a guy with the ball in his hands he's one of the more electric players. He had crap QB play last year and maybe that made him come off disinterested at times. But when he comes to life, IMO he's a stud. He can play slot-Z. And I think he's going to destroy Moreau if that's the dude trying to stop him on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I would have a difficult time passing on Kmet in round 3 if that's how it went down. At that point it's the best TE prospect vs maybe the 10th best OT prospect. We suck at drafting OL in the mid rounds and seem to be better at finding them later. I'm hoping for a project and a blue chipper at OT next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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