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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Would you want HBO Hard Knocks to feature us this year?

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Yes, I would love to see our guys on there.

 

Like most reality type shows, the editors can dictate or even create the narrative. But it seems to be a fairly honest representation of what actually happens at training camp, and although it does seem a little voyeuristic at times, I like it.

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Hell yeah. It'd be really fun. I don't buy the distraction argument. These guys are in front of cameras all the time.

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I'll take a pass on that. Not adamantly against it but I just prefer the Skins stay as quiet as they can.

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hell YES... as a fan i get to see the inner working of my team and gives me something to care about (football wise) prior to the season. I dont care whether the coaches like it.. this team has been pretty bad for a long time (without doing hard knocks) and they should jump at ANY opportunity to gain some of the fan base back!

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4 hours ago, oraphus said:

hell YES... as a fan i get to see the inner working of my team and gives me something to care about (football wise) prior to the season. I dont care whether the coaches like it.. this team has been pretty bad for a long time (without doing hard knocks) and they should jump at ANY opportunity to gain some of the fan base back!

 

Agreed.  But....it could also majorly backfire too.  If the office is as much of a **** show as some claim, it could be a lot of public egg on the face.  But would still be really entertaining at the very least. 

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Yes, because it would drive the suits out there insane to have someone chronicling their every move. Didn't seem to hurt the Browns much last year. I'd love to see it. 

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Rookie needs to focus, rather limit the distractions.  Not this year, no thanks.

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Yes please. Anything that puts undeniable ownership over some of the structural issues would be appreciated. 

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Keep thinking any day now, we'll finally at least know something.  I think the latest they've ever announced the team has been around the middle of May. 

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Anyone going to purchase HBO from the cable company if the Redskins happen to be featured on Hard Knocks?

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I think Haskins makes the Redskins a much more interesting get.  But hard to miss that the NFL Network covered if I recall over 20 teams in the draft -- Redskins not being one of those teams.  i presume the Redskins FO didn't want the cameras.  If so, I can see them digging hard against Hard Knox.  

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Hell yes. The value as a fan I'd get out of seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff would far outweigh the potential short-term negatives. Aside from some superstitious belief, I don't see any negatives. The "distraction" is not that big a deal. Hell Jay Gruden has already handled it once before as OC of the Bengals (and was entertaining). 

 

The Browns doing it last year gained them a lot of fans/interest and made it clear the team needed to move on from Hue. Showcased Dorsey and their new franchise QB. It wasn't bad for them at all imo. 

 

I can't imagine being a fan and not crossing my fingers hoping for this chance to see behind the scenes, in the meeting and coaches rooms, and into the locker room...now more than ever with actual young talent sprinkled at all levels of the roster. Especially on cut day and hearing their logic with some of the tough choices they'll have. Getting to see who actually has a voice in the decision-making. 

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31 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Hell yes. The value as a fan I'd get out of seeing the behind-the-scenes stuff would far outweigh the potential short-term negatives. Aside from some superstitious belief, I don't see any negatives. The "distraction" is not that big a deal. Hell Jay Gruden has already handled it once before as OC of the Bengals (and was entertaining). 

 

The Browns doing it last year gained them a lot of fans/interest and made it clear the team needed to move on from Hue. Showcased Dorsey and their new franchise QB. It wasn't bad for them at all imo. 

 

I can't imagine being a fan and not crossing my fingers hoping for this chance to see behind the scenes, in the meeting and coaches rooms, and into the locker room...now more than ever with actual young talent sprinkled at all levels of the roster. Especially on cut day and hearing their logic with some of the tough choices they'll have. Getting to see who actually has a voice in the decision-making. 

 

For a franchise that according to some like Peter King "are bleeding fans" it might actually help.  While I get their preference for privacy -- I actually think it would serve them well as to some needed PR and attention.  They are getting some attention for the Haskins pick but before that it's been sort of a forgotten franchise by the national nfl media in recent years and I think that might have something to do with their declining attendance and TV ratings. 

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On 5/4/2019 at 12:26 AM, c slag said:

Anyone going to purchase HBO from the cable company if the Redskins happen to be featured on Hard Knocks?

I would order it the day before episode 1 and cancel it the day after the last episode.  There is no way I wouldn't watch it.  And it would be awesome to see the behind the scenes stuff.  But as I said before, I hope they don't get chosen.

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I would not want to see it happen, but if it did, I would absolutely watch it.  On the other hand, if they attempt to make a mockery of the team, I would not watch going forward.

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On 5/3/2019 at 7:40 AM, Dissident2 said:

Yes, because it would drive the suits out there insane to have someone chronicling their every move. Didn't seem to hurt the Browns much last year. I'd love to see it. 

Didn’t seem to hurt the browns all that much last year except ya know, the whole firing their head coach mid season thing.  

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3 hours ago, chaaarmndr said:

Didn’t seem to hurt the browns all that much last year except ya know, the whole firing their head coach mid season thing.  

 

You mean the guy who went 2-5-1 then got fired, followed by a record of 5-3 with his replacement and a lot of buzz going into the offseason?

 

Like I said ... didn't hurt the Browns all that much last year. 

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On 5/1/2019 at 12:55 AM, BleedBNG said:

 

Not worse, in fact it's possible we could make the playoffs. I feel Case will be the starter for as long as he's healthy, while Colt will be backup. If God forbid both of them go down like our QB's did last year, then Haskins will take over. But I feel the Redskin explosion will begin next year. We're pretty much at the point (or we'll find out this year) that we can go for BPA thru out the rounds of next years draft. Most of which will help give Haskins a solid OLine to work with. Not to mention adding some more talent in the D secondary. In other words, no big deal doing Hard Knocks this year, but just don't bother us about it next year.

 

Couple of things here. The Redskins don't have a bad line I've already explained this in another thread. The Skins biggest problem is health. They have a top 10 offensive line when healthy.

 

I believe Keenum starts and Haskins is backup. McCoys health is up in the air right now. Also don't sleep on Haskins he could win this job before the start or the season.

 

As for the defense the Skins have spent high picks and a lot of money on the defense the last 3 years. They need to put up or shut up. Yeah they might be a little weak at CB, but you can't expect studs at every position. 

 

My only worry honestly is the coaching right now. There is enough talent on this team to win. Just don't know if we have the right people running it. 

 

 

As for Hard knocks I say no way. This team and organization has been a circus for years no need to let everyone get a inside look. 

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Reported today that it’s down to 4 teams with the Skins being one of them.   I would agree with others who don’t want to see it happen but would watch every second.  

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It would be absolutely mesmorizing for us.  The in-fighting regarding camp and the individual players would be glorious here.  We ARE Extremeskins for a reason. Hail

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I believe Washington is going to get it, they are at about 50/50 odds to have a new coach next year & as much fun as Oakland would be, some speculation that the show really wants Las Vegas in 2020. 

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2 minutes ago, volsmet said:

I believe Washington is going to get it, they are at about 50/50 odds to have a new coach next year & as much fun as Oakland would be, some speculation that the show really wants Las Vegas in 2020. 

I agree.  I think it’s got to come down to the Redskins and Raiders.  Giants and lions don’t have nearly the number of storylines.   I just have a hunch the Skins will be the selection.  

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24 minutes ago, volsmet said:

I believe Washington is going to get it, they are at about 50/50 odds to have a new coach next year & as much fun as Oakland would be, some speculation that the show really wants Las Vegas in 2020. 

 

I know they've been reticent to do it but I think they can benefit from the buzz they'd get out of it. 

 

17 minutes ago, Idaho fan said:

I agree.  I think it’s got to come down to the Redskins and Raiders.  Giants and lions don’t have nearly the number of storylines.   I just have a hunch the Skins will be the selection.  

 

I think the Eli-Jones dynamic along with Barkley would put them in play some.  Ditto Gettleman for his faults seems colorful. 

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23 minutes ago, Idaho fan said:

I agree.  I think it’s got to come down to the Redskins and Raiders.  Giants and lions don’t have nearly the number of storylines.   I just have a hunch the Skins will be the selection.  

 

You really can’t beat the Raiders drama, but Hard Knocks won’t follow a team with a new HC which makes it a good time to grab Washington & you can get all the Raiders drama when they move next year. I’ve never seen the show, but Gruden, Mayock & Brown in Vegas would be worth a watch I imagine. I also think Oakland may be able to push it off because they worked the sr bowl, but I’m not sure if that gives them any leverage or not.

 

The Reuben Foster story & DH make us interesting.

11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I think the Eli-Jones dynamic along with Barkley would put them in play some.  Ditto Gettleman for his faults seems colorful. 

 

I imagine Eli & Jones sitting in a room quoting lines from Pride & Prejudice to one another, Eli as Mr. Darcy & Daniel as each of the Bennett’s.

 

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