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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Welcome to the Redskins Cole Holcomb LB North Carolina

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Welcome to the Redskins young fellow. 

 

Cole Holcomb 

LB 

North Carolina 

 

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Cole Holcomb Draft Profile

 

 

HEIGHT 6' 1"

WEIGHT 231 lbs

ARMS 31 3/8”

HANDS 9 7/8”

Prospect Grade

5.36

NFL BACKUP OR SPECIAL TEAMS POTENTIAL

 

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Overview

Speedy run-and-chase linebacker with the eyes and instincts to diagnose and respond quickly, but lacking critical take-on skill at the point of attack. He has sideline-to-sideline range but he needs to play less reactively and with a more urgent play demeanor in attacking downhill. Holcomb's outstanding pro day numbers should push his draft value up the board as a three-down backup WILL linebacker and core special teamer.

Strengths

Outstanding pro day workout raised draft profile

Loose and athletic in his movements

Good play speed with sideline-to-sideline range

Early play recognition and diagnosis

Scrapes with quick, long shuffle to track running backs

Stays wide, balanced and tackle-ready when meeting runners

Agility and reactive twitch expands tackle range in space

Has speed to spy dangerous scrambling quarterbacks

Quick to spot and jump a screen pass

Has traits and experience to handle core special teams duties

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Say what you want to say, but NO ONE can say the Redskins didn't realize, as an organization, they were super slow on the field.   Ignore the offensive linemen and Haskins who don't HAVE to be fast.   The team clearly weighed "speed" relative to the position as an immense benefit in this draft.   Speed, relative to the position, is the key thing you are seeing here for us for sure.   This guy is an inside backer who is way too small, like Hamilton, but unlike Hamilton, has high level speed and burst at the position.   The Redskins realize they lack team speed and are doing their best effort to increase that with each pick it seems.

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56 minutes ago, Art said:

Say what you want to say, but NO ONE can say the Redskins didn't realize, as an organization, they were super slow on the field.   Ignore the offensive linemen and Haskins who don't HAVE to be fast.   The team clearly weighed "speed" relative to the position as an immense benefit in this draft.   Speed, relative to the position, is the key thing you are seeing here for us for sure.   This guy is an inside backer who is way too small, like Hamilton, but unlike Hamilton, has high level speed and burst at the position.   The Redskins realize they lack team speed and are doing their best effort to increase that with each pick it seems.

I agree with this, good QBs shredded us up the middle because we were so slow and once Dunbar went down our defense fell off a cliff. Maybe it's just me, but Hamilton doesn't seem that slow. That could be because he was playing next to Foster though. 

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1 hour ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

I agree with this, good QBs shredded us up the middle because we were so slow and once Dunbar went down our defense fell off a cliff. Maybe it's just me, but Hamilton doesn't seem that slow. That could be because he was playing next to Foster though. 

 

Hamilton is normal speed, not slow.   He's just not "fast".   And we're adding "fast".

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Reminds me a lot of Sean Lee from the cowpies.  Even though I hate him, when healthy, he's a heck of a player.  Holcomb does a great job reading the play and you can tell he spends time in the film room.  Esp on the play where the RB tried to leak out.  The RB didn't do a great job of selling the block first but you can tell that Cole was already anticipating the check down. 

 

ZB was fast but too many times fast in the wrong direction.  Being savvy and fast is a good combination.  I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on the field in sub packages.  Def as a special teamer. 

 

 

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Gotta like the 4.5 speed of this kid, 4.4 speed of Sweat, and 4.6 speed of the edge rusher we took in round 7. Addressing the painful lack of team speed. 

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The redskins saw the impact of Jaylen Smith and Vandy in Dallas.  Both fast and they transformed Dallas defense.   

 

Smart that we are taking note.   Our defensive front was strong but slow.  That's changing.  With Foster.  Sweat.   Possibly Brailford.

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I wonder if that stat is talking about coverage of tight ends and/or receivers.  At 4.5 speed, he should be able to keep up with a possession receiver type over the middle.

 

I'm excited for this kid.  

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Eager to see what the kid can do at the pro level. I liked his college game. Also curious about the trajectory of this defensive unit under Manusky, and how LB coaching evolves for the team now that KO is gone; not to mention Horton working with the DBs. Could be an interesting year for our D. It's stacked.

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1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

How did this guy end up on the 2nd page of ES, already ?

He reminds me a lot of Luke Kuechly, for some reason(s).

 

I'll bite, is it because he's while and from Carolina?

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So, went looking for his pro day #’s, and I’ve gotta say... wow.  

 

6'1"/235 = Ht/Wt

4.48 = 40-time

6.77 = Three-cone

22 = Bench Reps

11'0" = Broad Jump

 

Sure, being pro day times, we need to take the speed scores with a grain of salt, but the guy does play quite fast on the field.  For reference, that would have been the 4th fastest 40 and fastest 3 cone among linebackers.  

 

The fact he weighed in 4 lbs heavier than NFL.com has him - closer to Bush and White’s range - is nice to see.  And while he’s 2 inches taller than Bush (so a leaner frame), he did put up 1 more rep on the bench (22).  In addition, his broad jump would have been the best among linebackers at the combine, suggesting power in the lower body.

 

Mentally, it seems as though he’s a bit iffy in man, pretty good in zone, and excellent at sniffing out the run and screen game.  

 

Anyway, I’m really curious to see how much weight his frame can handle (without losing speed), because that’s a really nice athletic profile.  Seems like a smart, instinctive player with room to develop. 

 

Even without the extra weight, I have to think he has a solid shot at beating out Vigil (or whoever - earning the 4th or 5th ILB spot) and could even provide competition for SDH in the near future.  Looking forward to seeing and reading about him in TC and the preseason. 

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On 4/27/2019 at 3:28 PM, Renegade7 said:

Jus for classification, is he OLB or ILB? Both?

Should be ok at either but it looks like ILB with a wee bit more range than Mason Foster

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7 hours ago, DWinzit said:

Should be ok at either but it looks like ILB with a wee bit more range than Mason Foster

If I was picking a position for him, it would probably be at Will, so a bit of an odd fit for us, IMO.  Needs coverage experience, but he’s got the athleticism and run stop ability to fit well there.  

Not sure he has the chops for pass rushing off the edge, let alone setting the edge, but who knows.  Shorter arms (and height), lack of bulk and lack of experience in that role just make it hard for me to picture.  

 

If he can add 5+ pounds, I think he could fit as an inside backer for us, and his speed/instincts would serve him (and us) well there.  

 

 

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On 4/27/2019 at 3:38 PM, Art said:

This guy is an inside backer who is way too small, like Hamilton, but unlike Hamilton, has high level speed and burst at the position.

I’m trying to comprehend traditional LB responsibilities (Will, Mike, Sam) with what I think is the recent direction the Redskins are taking with smaller yet much faster ILBs like Rueben Foster, Hamilton, and now Holcomb: all in the 230 lb range. I guess gone are the days of a 250lb Fletcher-like downhill backers whose immediate job was to crash A&B gaps. Now we have the more read-then-react types. Or, is it a reflection of the confidence our coaches have in our front three to cover those gaps, albeit for a split second, long enough for our flighty inside bakers to react to run vs. pass?

 

It is a recent preference that seemingly coincides with Manusky at DC. And as he used to be our LB coach, I have a feeling this is his preference. 

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20 minutes ago, JaxJoe said:

I’m trying to comprehend traditional LB responsibilities (Will, Mike, Sam) with what I think is the recent direction the Redskins are taking with smaller yet much faster ILBs like Rueben Foster, Hamilton, and now Holcomb: all in the 230 lb range. I guess gone are the days of a 250lb Fletcher-like downhill backers

The NFC East has both Zeke and Saquan as featured backs, and both are capable of bringing a load. As the league seems to trend towards smaller faster LBs, I see a few teams being able to capitalize on that with a Ground and Pound Smashmouth attack.  Leighton Vander Esch is a package at almost 260lbs and I hated to see him go to our most hated rival. (Although Sean Lee was only 230lbs and he seemed to haunt us plenty as well.) Holcomb at 230lbs and "only" 6'1 Might be thickly built enough to handle the load, but I didn't really see much of a punishing tackler. Yes, Our DL may be able allow them to close cleanly, but it is of little value if our LBs have to absorb the impact and give up 1-2 yards after contact.

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15 hours ago, Otis Wonsley Posse said:

As a Tar Heel alum lots will be frustrated with lack of speed. Gives great effort but the physical tools for the NFL? Hmmmm

 

I can understand lack of strength, but lack of speed, based on these numbers? That's ludicrous. 
 

4.48 = 40-time

6.77 = Three-cone

 

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15 hours ago, Otis Wonsley Posse said:

As a Tar Heel alum lots will be frustrated with lack of speed. Gives great effort but the physical tools for the NFL? Hmmmm

This really surprises me as his speed shows up on tape IMO.  

7 minutes ago, LLandryistheshiz said:

 

I can understand lack of strength, but lack of speed, based on these numbers? That's ludicrous. 
 

4.48 = 40-time

6.77 = Three-cone

 

As I said above, I don’t trust pro day numbers, but his tape does seem to back it up (at least to an extent).  

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