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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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On 6/30/2019 at 9:30 AM, redskinss said:

 not sure if its wind or just the assumption that he wont get caught but he definitely seems to pull up a lot at the end of his long runs.

Too many of his highlights show him getting caught when it looked like there was no chance of it happening. 

 

 

I noticed that too.... which seems very odd for that I thought was a home run back.  Hopefully it was just conditioning  and can be fixed.  Maybe in those clips he was nursing the injury that eventually gave way. 

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6 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

So is there are any data to support this random hot take? Don't get me wrong, this is the right place for such takes. But am curious as to how you came to this conclusion. 

 

I like Love's potential also but to say he is "probably" our best back is a pretty strong statement. 

 

 

 

 

 

In 2017, Love rushed for 2118 yards.  He was 2nd in the nation in rushing and rushing yards per game.  Back to back 250 yard games and a Stanford record with 301 yards in a game.

 

He won the Doak Walker award as the nations best RB.  He also won the Lombardi Award.  First team All American and runner up to the Heisman in 2017 and he was top candidate for the Heisman n 2018 prior to his injury.

 

When healthy he had speed and allusiveness to make him a threat every time he touched the ball.

 

I really like Guice; he has a different running style than Love.  He is a 225lber that runs with a more malicious intent.  His best year in college isn't up to Love's (I understand he played in the SEC).   With his injury that's all we really have to compare. I think he and Love make a great tandom.

 

AP is a first ballet Hall of Famer.  AP 10 years ago, even 5 years ago was the man.  AP today is not as allusive, not nearly as quick laterally.  Still got some pretty good straight ahead speed but it takes him an extra step or two to get there.  I think he is great for the team, sets a great example for dedication and conditioning, but today is not the threat that a healthy Love or Guice offer.

 

I am very optimistic about our backfield, if we can get the OL working together we should be able to run the ball.

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24 minutes ago, evmiii said:

 

 

In 2017, Love rushed for 2118 yards.  He was 2nd in the nation in rushing and rushing yards per game.  Back to back 250 yard games and a Stanford record with 301 yards in a game.

 

He won the Doak Walker award as the nations best RB.  He also won the Lombardi Award.  First team All American and runner up to the Heisman in 2017 and he was top candidate for the Heisman n 2018 prior to his injury.

 

When healthy he had speed and allusiveness to make him a threat every time he touched the ball.

 

I really like Guice; he has a different running style than Love.  He is a 225lber that runs with a more malicious intent.  His best year in college isn't up to Love's (I understand he played in the SEC).   With his injury that's all we really have to compare. I think he and Love make a great tandom.

 

AP is a first ballet Hall of Famer.  AP 10 years ago, even 5 years ago was the man.  AP today is not as allusive, not nearly as quick laterally.  Still got some pretty good straight ahead speed but it takes him an extra step or two to get there.  I think he is great for the team, sets a great example for dedication and conditioning, but today is not the threat that a healthy Love or Guice offer.

 

I am very optimistic about our backfield, if we can get the OL working together we should be able to run the ball.

 

First, thank you for the well thought out and detailed response. Not sure I completely agree but fair enough on the thought process. I can certainly follow the logic. 

 

The only thing I might say is that I agree he "could" be the best - but not sure we know enough since both he and Guice are coming back from injury so say "probably". But that is just nuance. Again, thanks for the great response 

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Was listening to I think the John Keim report and they mentioned something that was good to hear regarding Love.  Apparently his ACL tear was one of the cleanest tears the doctors had ever seen and that should help with his rehab and healing time table. They still see him as starting on PUP, but it's conceivable that he could be called up mid-to-late season. Especially if there are injuries to the RB room and Chris Thompson in particular in my opinion.

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Do we have any status on him, is he definitely out this year or is it a wait and see situation?

 

Bryce and Guice, I want to see it.

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I think Thompson and AP are gone after this year no matter what. At least one of Love/ Guice should work out 🤞

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Does Love had hands back grade hands?

 

His stats point to a lug the mail guy but his stature tells me he may be more cut from the scat back cloth.  Only 6 catches in his monster season followed up by 20 in 10 games in 2018.

 

Maybe in 2020 he and Guice will be largely sharing duties... but my question remains... can he be an all down back, if even for every other series. Sure coaches like to have 1 back and backs always say they need their touches, but the wear and tear angle coupled with 2 guys deserving.... maybe they will be my next fantasy which Skin to start nightmare one day.

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I saw a writer (who's not well-known but he's highly respected) say that Love was in the mix for kick or punt returns.

That must mean he will be ready for the season, health-wise.

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2 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

I saw a writer (who's not well-known but he's highly respected) say that Love was in the mix for kick or punt returns.

That must mean he will be ready for the season, health-wise.

 

Seems sketchy. He's not even healthy enough to practice yet, not even walk throughs. So I don't see how anyone is saying he's in the mix for return duties. Feels premature and more like a guess. 

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2 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

I saw a writer (who's not well-known but he's highly respected) say that Love was in the mix for kick or punt returns.

That must mean he will be ready for the season, health-wise.

Like this if true but like Conn said health is the issue and I wouldn't be surprise to see him in the PUP when the season started.

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That time of the night where you begin to dream big about the future. I hope our recent emphasis on running out of three receiver sets continue. 

 

The future of Mclauren,  Harmon and Quinn who all are willing blockers combined with the speed of Love is something to look forward to. The timing of our young assets at the skill positions could mesh well with Haskins. The intrigue of Love next off-season into training camp should be fun.

 

I thought our running back rotation would be similar to what the Saints used to do with Kamara and Ingrim. Jay seems to prefer to have a lead back who gets a few breaks as opposed to sharing the workload.  Guice and to a little lesser extent Love should be three down backs so tipping our hand shouldn't be as much of an issue as the Guice and Peterson dynamic. Hopefully we can find a way to give each 15 touches a game and save both of their knees.

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Anyone have any words about Bryce Love's status. I believe he was placed on the inactive list until week 6. Week 6 has passed and I am wondering when can we expect him. i am excited to see him play and see potential with his speed and McLaurin to have a good offense next year.

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35 minutes ago, Dissident2 said:

 

Wow are you ****ing kidding me. Man this sucks

 

Always bad news when it comes to being a Redskins fan. 

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still a long time till next season, but I don't  expect much.  GMSM's philosophy didn't end up working well while he was here and I don't think the remaining staff should have adopted it once he was gone

 

14 minutes ago, Boss_Hogg said:

Next comes the mysterious bacterial infection 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital-acquired_infection

 

"In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of microorganisms, including bacteria and fungi combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.[2] In Europe, where hospital surveys have been conducted, the category of gram-negative infections are estimated to account for two-thirds of the 25,000 deaths each year "

 

sadly it's not that mysterious

 

 

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9 minutes ago, dyst said:

Why is Dr. Andrews famed?

Because he was fixing high profile athletes joints in the 80's when people said those players would never play again. Most notably Roger Clemons.

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