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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

@TheShredder I hear you, but if it were a case of a large person has a large heart certain most NFL prospects would carry the same red flag, but they don’t.  We’ll just have to wait and see.

Medically speaking that's not the same thing as was being reported though.  They reported 'degenerative heart', which is 100% BS.  They've not yet isolated that gene to make that distinction so it's likely a draft leak.  The only reality is that prospects had to submit to a chest xray and with that alone they'd have some radiologist who measured his heat from an xray.  Xrays are not diagnostic capable of making that diagnosis.  Trust me, I know. 

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https://amp.democratandchronicle.com/amp/3533053002

 

He compares his game to Jason Taylor

In his two years at Mississippi State, Sweat proved he could function in both a 3-4 and 4-3 defense, diversity that NFL teams love to have in defensive linemen.

He recorded 22 sacks and 29.5 tackles for loss playing against top-end competition in the SEC, and when he was asked who he thinks his game resembles, he said, “I watch a lot of pass rushers. I think old-time pass rushers ... like Jason Taylor has a lot of my skill set. He’s long, he’s fast. I watch him a lot.”

 

 

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Nice pick.  I see a first pick trade down to recoup the 2nd in 2020.

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Nice video 98. Seems like another really great guy, who loves to work. 

 

I think it was Rice or someone that said to be great, you have to work and prepare harder than anyone else. We seem to have drafted a lot of guys like that.

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Days later and I still can't get over that we ended up with Montez!

 

They said they wanted to add speedy play makers and they nailed it with Sweat.

 

It's going to be fun watching him with the rest of out incredible DL.

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10 hours ago, DWinzit said:

Days later and I still can't get over that we ended up with Montez!

 

They said they wanted to add speedy play makers and they nailed it with Sweat.

 

It's going to be fun watching him with the rest of out incredible DL.

Like you, I'm just now processing what our defense could look like with Ion healthy, Reub Foster, Sweat and obtw......Landon Colins. The additions on paper are sick. And I'm loving the ballhawk from JMU. Just think if Josh Norman gets focused and reverts back to his salad days? 

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Jason Taylor is a good comp. Athletic, a little lean, but should be big and quick enough to play both in the 4-3 and 3-4.

 

On our D surrounded by Kerrigan and the studs up front pushing pockets up, he could get 10+ sacks as a rook.

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13 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Jason Taylor is a good comp. Athletic, a little lean, but should be big and quick enough to play both in the 4-3 and 3-4.

 

On our D surrounded by Kerrigan and the studs up front pushing pockets up, he could get 10+ sacks as a rook.

 

Taylor is too lofty a comp IMO, and defense has changes since Taylor was in his prime because of how shotgun has been so heavily implemented.

 

I still like Danielle Hunter as his closest NFL ceiling comparison.  Hunter makes plays due to his incredible length, tenacity, his explosive athleticism, and his ability to reach the QB in like three or four strides.  Sweat is a remarkably similar athlete, with the same kind of 99th percentile physical gifts that give him the potential to make special plays like Hunter.  He's probably the best athlete on our team now, but to get to that All Pro level as a playmaker like Hunter, he's going to have to continue to get stronger, get more comfortable playing lower, and improve his pre-snap approach.  He needs that explosive strength to playmake through contact with tackles and tight ends to truly unlock the potential that his length gives him.  It's going to take a few seasons for him to get there.

 

But I also think he's significantly further along than Hunter was as a rookie.  He looks stronger than Hunter was, and Hunter was a one move rusher who played upright too.  He was certainly way more productive as a pass rusher in college than Hunter was too, but Hunter was probably more instinctive and better at playing the run.  I agree that 10 sacks isn't out of the question for him, but I don't think it's likely.

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/26432393/how-montez-sweat-team-molded-freak-elite-prospect

 

"We sent him in to get his body fat taken, and he was 5.9 percent body fat. At that point, I knew we had a freak. I have not seen a 260-pound, 5.9 percent-body-fat guy gain that much weight in 13 days and look the way he did. He's a very genetically gifted human being with the work ethic behind that."

 

 

"We worked on something called the 'long-arm ghost.' It's a move that Von Miller kind of invented. You use the long arm, then go to the ghost. First you long-arm the guy, then you fake like you're going to long arm him and bend underneath. We added that so he's coming into the league with an arsenal. He's going to be one not to mess with in his rookie year."

The long-arm move is natural for Sweat thanks to his 35-plus-inch arms.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/3/15/18263489/montez-sweat-nfl-draft-2019-washington-mississippi-state-scouting-report-defensive-end

 

The funny thing, to me at least, is Sweat is what my rush defensive end Create-A-Player would look almost exactly like, both in stature and in the way he plays the game.

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22 hours ago, kingdaddy said:

Like you, I'm just now processing what our defense could look like with Ion healthy, Reub Foster, Sweat and obtw......Landon Colins. The additions on paper are sick. And I'm loving the ballhawk from JMU. Just think if Josh Norman gets focused and reverts back to his salad days? 

 

The thing I'm thinking about our defense is...who's gonna get double teamed?  Cause if you double team one of Ion, Payne, Allen...you're gonna have Sweat or Kerrigan coming over the top or maybe Reuben Foster up the middle if it's an LB blitz.  Double teaming any one player on this team is going to just open up other opportunities for someone else.  

 

Hopefully they can all be healthy this year, our defense should be legit.

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Out front 7 is much improved and we got some real good depth. I live in Eagles country and even one of my buddies who is an Eagles fan did not like us getting Sweat. He even commented that our front seven is pretty darn good and he wasn’t even factoring in Rueben. 

 

There is no comparison between him and Preston. I liked Preston but he was too inconsistent and awful when he had to drop off in coverage. You can’t teach speed and length and that’s what Sweat has. Once the coaches work with him I see someone who could be better than Kerrigan. Plus I love his enthusiasm for being on the team. Every social media has him saying HTTR which I love hearing. By comparison Haskins seems pretty low key but maybe because he’s still pissed that Jones got drafted before him. He did seem to come around over the weekend. 

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1 minute ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

#topfivedefense

#dontsetyourbarlow

Manusky would have to call the right kind of plays for it to happen wouldn't he?..I mean even for a top ten defense..

I've got faith manusky can do it..use all the new toys properly..

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1 minute ago, bakedtater1 said:

Manusky would have to call the right kind of plays for it to happen wouldn't he?..I mean even for a top ten defense..

 

That's my only concern. I think he may just be an average DC.

What I hope happens, is this defense plays its full potential, and ends up Top 5, then Manusky gets a bunch of credit, and it somehow lands him

a HC gig.

I think we could easily find a better DC...perhaps one that is currently on our staff.

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Manusky has not been great as the d coordinator but I believe he will improve. Much easier when you have talent and he has much more than when he first came here. Also keep in mind that we hired Rob Ryan as a lb coach. While I think he was overrated as a def coordinator he still brings experience to the table. 

 

I do take back slightly on our depth on the d line. Forgot we cut McGhee. So Caleb Brantley better be good. Oh any chance Marcus Smith, former first rounder with Eagles, actually can play?  But Brantley and Tim Settle must be viable rotational guys with Allen, Payne, and Ionnadis. Someone mentioned moving Anderson inside and I like that idea. Him and Mason would allow us to be better run stoppers than with Shaun Dion who I like but I see him more as a backup. Add Landon in the box and the big guys up front and our run def should be much better. 

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27 minutes ago, glongest said:

Dude looks like Julius Peppers.  Sure hope he can play like him.

 

Julius Peppers is the same thing I was thinking.

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It would be incredible if he's anywhere near as good as prime Julius Peppers, one of the most dominant defensive players of all time. 

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6 hours ago, skinsfan93 said:

Manusky has not been great as the d coordinator but I believe he will improve. Much easier when you have talent and he has much more than when he first came here. Also keep in mind that we hired Rob Ryan as a lb coach. While I think he was overrated as a def coordinator he still brings experience to the table. 

 

I do take back slightly on our depth on the d line. Forgot we cut McGhee. So Caleb Brantley better be good. Oh any chance Marcus Smith, former first rounder with Eagles, actually can play?  But Brantley and Tim Settle must be viable rotational guys with Allen, Payne, and Ionnadis. Someone mentioned moving Anderson inside and I like that idea. Him and Mason would allow us to be better run stoppers than with Shaun Dion who I like but I see him more as a backup. Add Landon in the box and the big guys up front and our run def should be much better. 

Hopefully Marcus Smith and Caleb Brantley can turn their career's around here, and become solid rotational pieces of the defense.

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/21/18273955/did-marcus-smith-simply-fly-under-everyones-radar

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

Giants fan(s) asking if Redskins have best defense in NFL

 

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=582792

 

 

I think we do, especially if some of the young guys keep progressing.

 

https://www.redskins.com/news/after-learning-the-nfl-ropes-tim-settle-is-taking-advantage-of-the-offseason

 

"I’m so comfortable now because I could do it by myself, I don’t need anybody to tell me," Settle said of working out this offseason. "I come in here every day. I just don’t want to slow down. I just want to keep going faster, and faster, and faster, and faster until somebody tells me to chill. And I still probably won’t chill. I just want to be the person who takes over the game."

 

 

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On 4/28/2019 at 3:27 PM, Newera said:

Nice pick.  I see a first pick trade down to recoup the 2nd in 2020.

I see a veteran trade for a 2nd just as likely. Jordan Reed comes to mind. 

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