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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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4 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

Dude won't even be on the roster..this all part of a trade package to get Rosen..

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

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Its still an 8-8 team, but now its a CHEAPER 8-8 team!  That's the ultimate goal right?  I gave the fans exactly what they wanted!

 

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If nothing else happens from this point on, Colt is our starter and Case is the back up. There is zero chance Gruden starts Case over Colt, unless it isn't Gruden's decision, which in that case will probably lead to the tank many are looking for anyways. This trade for Keenum does not move the needle either direction for me in the slightest. 

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My level of apathy is illustrated by my thoughts on this trade:

 

”I guess he’ll have to wear 4 since 7 and 17 won’t be available...”

 

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5 minutes ago, MassSkinsFan said:

My level of apathy is illustrated by my thoughts on this trade:

 

”I guess he’ll have to wear 4 since 7 and 17 won’t be available...”

 

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Why no 17?

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1 hour ago, theTruthTeller said:

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

Just wondering are we trying to lower our cap by getting Keenum and then cutting Colt?

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This isn't a bad move at all.  It gives McCoy competition (or insurance as a backup, Keenum is better than Johnson and Sanchez) and leaves the door open to still draft a QB.  

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2 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

This is not directed to at you battered: 

Many of you are just making way too much out of a extremely depth move at QB. And please all of you about to provide all the recent history of the team, just save it. I know the history in minute detail. I have been here. I know exactly what has happened and when the team has **** the bed I have been front and center in calling them out on it. I get the apathy as with all the change the only constant has been our failure. I get it. 

 

As much as I want them to leave QB alone and prepare for 2020, you can't honestly expect them to do that. It's a totally ridiculous expectation. If you are going to lose your **** every time they make a move that might just actually help the team and make them even the slightest bit better, you are in for a very long off-season and beyond. 

 

 

 

 

 

It could be argued that all of us make way too much out of what big strangers do in tights. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

This isn't a bad move at all.  It gives McCoy competition (or insurance as a backup, Keenum is better than Johnson and Sanchez) and leaves the door open to still draft a QB.  

 

Colt thrives when competition is in close proximity.

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2 hours ago, sempre_victrix said:

As much as I hate our FO, considering our CAP numbers, this is a great move.  It basically cost us nothing and we still have money to land a good safety in FA.  We could potentially trade for Rosen and have a real battle in camp for starting QB, all on the cheap.  At least we're no longer in desperation mode for a QB.

 

And I think that's the positive side of this move....flexibility!

 

We gave up and are paying virtually nothing so we have basically the same flexibility we had before this trade to add a QB either through the draft, a trade, etc. At the same time, we now basically have a more durable Colt McCoy, so if a formula of a strong running game, defense, and timely passing plays does have us surprisingly at 6-3 again next year, we have a better shot of sustaining that success. That means we don't have to sell the farm or reach if the right QB scenario doesn't come up this off-season. 

 

Is this the outcome that the front office intended? Who knows, but this is the result that I see. 

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Just now, volsmet said:

 

It could be argued that all of us make way too much out of what big strangers do in tights. 

 

 

 

Possibly true, but that is not the topic of a Redskins message board.

 

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Just now, goskins10 said:

 

Possibly true, but that is not the topic of a Redskins message board.

 

 

Agree to disagree.

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2 hours ago, DC9 said:

 

So Bruce Finally got a chess set?

 

The dude who has been trotting Luavao out there as LG the last three years?

 

Okay.

Hey one can dream right?

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1 hour ago, MassSkinsFan said:

My fault - I liked Billy (and forgot J. Candle) 🤪

I thought you were implying that they like Michael Floyd so much they wouldn't give his number away in case they can re-sign him.

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1 hour ago, theTruthTeller said:

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

Can we just hope that I'm right..I mean you really telling me Case keenum is going to be our quarterback week 1..?? How much did it cost us so I can put my best friend in his place... He called me talking crap as usual about how Snyder is shelling out all kinds of money.. tell me it's not so.. Bruce is really reaching for that 3 game win season isn't he

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8 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I thought you were implying that they like Michael Floyd so much they wouldn't give his number away in case they can re-sign him.

They really did seem to like Michael Floyd at the end of the year. He seemed to get a ton of playing time.

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2 hours ago, theTruthTeller said:

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter. 

 

I don't think Keenum had any say in the matter. He's under contract. Two teams agreed to the financials and traded that contract. Keenum just follows the contract wherever it is moved. It's quite possible that everyone was assuming he'd be cut and the Skins jumped the line with this deal. Sort of smart, IMO. 

 

58 minutes ago, 50yrSKINSfan said:

Just wondering are we trying to lower our cap by getting Keenum and then cutting Colt?

 

Net net I think the cap # would go up even if we cut Colt. I'm guessing the Skins thinking here is that the cap hit with this trade is lower than a cap hit would have been if we just signed a similar FA. The cost in draft picks is essentially nil. 

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20 minutes ago, Skins Skeptic said:

I don't think Keenum had any say in the matter. He's under contract.

 

He agreed to restructure his contract down to only 7.5M.  So he absolutely had a say. 

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Um, so let me get this straight:  We just got the guy that the Vikings had the season before they signed Kirk/Kurt?   

 

 

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Listen the reality is this, Keenum 2 years ago was playing in the NFC championship game, He took the same team Cousins failed with and was one game away from the Big Show. On the flip side Kenum was average to bad last year playing for the Broncos. Anyone who follows football knows not every place is going to be a ideal fit for a QB, I think both cousins and Alex Smith along with keenum proved that last season.

 

  I'm coming into this trade very optimistic, Gruden is a QB's coach, i honestly believe he can channel the 2017 Keenum and the 2017 Keenum proved he can win. I'll take a guy who proved he can win over a 1st round pick who never has (Rosen) and a career backup (McCoy) who couldn't even survive 2 games as a starter. This trade made sense.

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So let's go Twilight Zone on this..

 

We go from KC who had great numbers but not a great record...

To.....

 

CK...

Maybe like the initials, we'll get the mirror opposite and he'll have crap numbers but a great record....

 

Like..bizarro world or some **** like that...

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16 minutes ago, Xameil said:

we'll get the mirror opposite and he'll have crap numbers but a great record....

 

We had that last year but I wouldn't call 6-4 a "great record".

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8 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

We had that last year but I wouldn't call 6-4 a "great record".

It was a joke...and....

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3 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

Is this the outcome that the front office intended? Who knows, but this is the result that I see. 

 

Who knows?  More than likely, they Forrest Gumped themselves into this position with this trade.

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