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      Good afternoon Redskins fans!  I have once again been invited to sit in the relative comfort of the press box and shout my thoughts into the void via this blog.  As you watch the game today and see the rain  pour relentlessly from the heavens, know that I am safe and dry.  Know also that @Spaceman Spiff is out there somewhere, cold and unappreciated, rolling around in the muck trying to capture that perfect picture.  Maybe say a little prayer for his health (or laugh, whatever, I’m not judging you).  Also, be sure not to miss the pictures he posts on this site after each game.     
       
      Before we get into today's Redskins game, I want give some thanks for more positive occurrences in DC sports.  Congrats to the Washington Mystics for winning their first championship.  Congrats go out to the Washington Nationals as well for reaching the world series.  These two teams (along with the Caps) are working hard to change the sports related mood around this town, and we're all happier for it. 
       
      Lets move now into less cheerful topics, namely your Washington Redskins!  Yow know things are going bad, and I mean really dang bad, when your team has gone through three quarterbacks and two coaches and your not even half way through the season.  Today's fresh hell comes in the form of a specter of the our recent past coming to smirk at our misfortune.  Im talking of course of Kyle.  Kyle's spent the week assuring everyone that he isn’t holding a grudge, while very obviously holding a grudge.  “Everything else.”  You know what I’m talking about. 
       
      If all he brought to town were his hurt feelings we wouldn’t have a problem.  Sadly, he’s arrived with an undefeated football team that the NFL says we have to play this week.  This feels entirely unfair. 
       
      My generic key to the game:  Run the ball and stop the run.  The team (spoiler alert: 49ers) that does this today will win.   
       
      Redskins Inactives  
      QB Colt McCoy  
      S Deshazor Everett  
      CB Josh Norman  
      RB Chris THompson  
      LB Josh Harvey-Clemons 
      G Wes Martin  
      TE Vernon Davis  
       
      49ers inactives  
      QB CJ Beathard 
      WR Deebo Samuel  
      CB Ahkello Witherspoon  
      FB Kyle Juszczyk 
      T Mike McGLinchey 
      T Joe Staley 
      DL DJ Jones 
       
      1st Quarter Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers
       
      Callahan wasn’t playing around when he said he wanted to run the ball.  That first drive was all runs, and looked great... right up until they tried to pass the ball.  Hopkins missed the relatively short fied goal, because of course he did.     

      Maybe Quinn isn’t a good choice to be returning punts?  Consider it.    
       
      That second Redskins drive looked more like what we’ve come to expect from this offense.  Run for negative yards, pass dropped, and an unsuccessful screen pass.  A quintessential Redskins three and out. 

      Passing yards this quarter:  Redskins 3. 49ers 9.  Are you not entertained?! 
       
      Half Time Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers 
       
      How happy are you to spend your Sunday afternoon watching this game?  Consider that some people paid money, to sit in a poncho, in the rain, to watch this game. 
       
      It’s now time for those half time adjustments that our beloved skins do so well.  It’s unlikely the second half mirrors the first. 
       
      3rd Quarter Update 
      Redskins 0 – 3 49ers  
       
      Good news, this game will not end in a 0-0 tie.  Those half time adjustments have kicked in as expected and the 49ers have found a way onto the scoreboard in this messy throwback game.  The Redskins have decided to spend the second half collecting holding penalties and sadness.  Mercifully, only one quarter remains. 
       
      End of Game Update 
      Redskins 0 – 9 49ers 
       
      Callahan hasn’t spent much time as the head coach of the Washington Redskins, but he’s already proven that his team can waste 2nd half timeouts like a veteran.  It makes little sense to adopt a strategy that shortens the game when your team is losing, and it makes even less sense when your team is short on time outs.  I’m not really sure what the thinking as late in this game.    
       
      Next week Kirk Cousins!   
       
       
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The Cult of Case

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4 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

Dude won't even be on the roster..this all part of a trade package to get Rosen..

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

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Its still an 8-8 team, but now its a CHEAPER 8-8 team!  That's the ultimate goal right?  I gave the fans exactly what they wanted!

 

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If nothing else happens from this point on, Colt is our starter and Case is the back up. There is zero chance Gruden starts Case over Colt, unless it isn't Gruden's decision, which in that case will probably lead to the tank many are looking for anyways. This trade for Keenum does not move the needle either direction for me in the slightest. 

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My level of apathy is illustrated by my thoughts on this trade:

 

”I guess he’ll have to wear 4 since 7 and 17 won’t be available...”

 

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5 minutes ago, MassSkinsFan said:

My level of apathy is illustrated by my thoughts on this trade:

 

”I guess he’ll have to wear 4 since 7 and 17 won’t be available...”

 

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Why no 17?

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1 hour ago, theTruthTeller said:

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

Just wondering are we trying to lower our cap by getting Keenum and then cutting Colt?

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This isn't a bad move at all.  It gives McCoy competition (or insurance as a backup, Keenum is better than Johnson and Sanchez) and leaves the door open to still draft a QB.  

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2 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

This is not directed to at you battered: 

Many of you are just making way too much out of a extremely depth move at QB. And please all of you about to provide all the recent history of the team, just save it. I know the history in minute detail. I have been here. I know exactly what has happened and when the team has **** the bed I have been front and center in calling them out on it. I get the apathy as with all the change the only constant has been our failure. I get it. 

 

As much as I want them to leave QB alone and prepare for 2020, you can't honestly expect them to do that. It's a totally ridiculous expectation. If you are going to lose your **** every time they make a move that might just actually help the team and make them even the slightest bit better, you are in for a very long off-season and beyond. 

 

 

 

 

 

It could be argued that all of us make way too much out of what big strangers do in tights. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

This isn't a bad move at all.  It gives McCoy competition (or insurance as a backup, Keenum is better than Johnson and Sanchez) and leaves the door open to still draft a QB.  

 

Colt thrives when competition is in close proximity.

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2 hours ago, sempre_victrix said:

As much as I hate our FO, considering our CAP numbers, this is a great move.  It basically cost us nothing and we still have money to land a good safety in FA.  We could potentially trade for Rosen and have a real battle in camp for starting QB, all on the cheap.  At least we're no longer in desperation mode for a QB.

 

And I think that's the positive side of this move....flexibility!

 

We gave up and are paying virtually nothing so we have basically the same flexibility we had before this trade to add a QB either through the draft, a trade, etc. At the same time, we now basically have a more durable Colt McCoy, so if a formula of a strong running game, defense, and timely passing plays does have us surprisingly at 6-3 again next year, we have a better shot of sustaining that success. That means we don't have to sell the farm or reach if the right QB scenario doesn't come up this off-season. 

 

Is this the outcome that the front office intended? Who knows, but this is the result that I see. 

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Just now, volsmet said:

 

It could be argued that all of us make way too much out of what big strangers do in tights. 

 

 

 

Possibly true, but that is not the topic of a Redskins message board.

 

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Just now, goskins10 said:

 

Possibly true, but that is not the topic of a Redskins message board.

 

 

Agree to disagree.

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2 hours ago, DC9 said:

 

So Bruce Finally got a chess set?

 

The dude who has been trotting Luavao out there as LG the last three years?

 

Okay.

Hey one can dream right?

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1 hour ago, MassSkinsFan said:

My fault - I liked Billy (and forgot J. Candle) 🤪

I thought you were implying that they like Michael Floyd so much they wouldn't give his number away in case they can re-sign him.

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1 hour ago, theTruthTeller said:

I'm having a hard time with this.

 

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter.  I can't imagine his agent would be stupid enough not to put a no trade clause in the new contract to prevent him from being shipped to a different team with an established starter.  In a few days he'd be able to pick his team and still make $7M

 

If Arizona wanted Keenum as a backup, they didn't need the Skins  as an intermediary.  Denver just wanted to free up $3.5M in cap space and Arizona has plenty of cap space.  It's not like its been any big secret that he was available.

Can we just hope that I'm right..I mean you really telling me Case keenum is going to be our quarterback week 1..?? How much did it cost us so I can put my best friend in his place... He called me talking crap as usual about how Snyder is shelling out all kinds of money.. tell me it's not so.. Bruce is really reaching for that 3 game win season isn't he

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8 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I thought you were implying that they like Michael Floyd so much they wouldn't give his number away in case they can re-sign him.

They really did seem to like Michael Floyd at the end of the year. He seemed to get a ton of playing time.

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2 hours ago, theTruthTeller said:

The only incentive for Keenum to reduce his salary in a trade is that he'd end up with a one-year prove it contract with a team that needed a starter. 

 

I don't think Keenum had any say in the matter. He's under contract. Two teams agreed to the financials and traded that contract. Keenum just follows the contract wherever it is moved. It's quite possible that everyone was assuming he'd be cut and the Skins jumped the line with this deal. Sort of smart, IMO. 

 

58 minutes ago, 50yrSKINSfan said:

Just wondering are we trying to lower our cap by getting Keenum and then cutting Colt?

 

Net net I think the cap # would go up even if we cut Colt. I'm guessing the Skins thinking here is that the cap hit with this trade is lower than a cap hit would have been if we just signed a similar FA. The cost in draft picks is essentially nil. 

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20 minutes ago, Skins Skeptic said:

I don't think Keenum had any say in the matter. He's under contract.

 

He agreed to restructure his contract down to only 7.5M.  So he absolutely had a say. 

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Um, so let me get this straight:  We just got the guy that the Vikings had the season before they signed Kirk/Kurt?   

 

 

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Listen the reality is this, Keenum 2 years ago was playing in the NFC championship game, He took the same team Cousins failed with and was one game away from the Big Show. On the flip side Kenum was average to bad last year playing for the Broncos. Anyone who follows football knows not every place is going to be a ideal fit for a QB, I think both cousins and Alex Smith along with keenum proved that last season.

 

  I'm coming into this trade very optimistic, Gruden is a QB's coach, i honestly believe he can channel the 2017 Keenum and the 2017 Keenum proved he can win. I'll take a guy who proved he can win over a 1st round pick who never has (Rosen) and a career backup (McCoy) who couldn't even survive 2 games as a starter. This trade made sense.

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So let's go Twilight Zone on this..

 

We go from KC who had great numbers but not a great record...

To.....

 

CK...

Maybe like the initials, we'll get the mirror opposite and he'll have crap numbers but a great record....

 

Like..bizarro world or some **** like that...

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16 minutes ago, Xameil said:

we'll get the mirror opposite and he'll have crap numbers but a great record....

 

We had that last year but I wouldn't call 6-4 a "great record".

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8 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

We had that last year but I wouldn't call 6-4 a "great record".

It was a joke...and....

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3 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

Is this the outcome that the front office intended? Who knows, but this is the result that I see. 

 

Who knows?  More than likely, they Forrest Gumped themselves into this position with this trade.

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