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      Good afternoon Redskins fans!  I have once again been invited to sit in the relative comfort of the press box and shout my thoughts into the void via this blog.  As you watch the game today and see the rain  pour relentlessly from the heavens, know that I am safe and dry.  Know also that @Spaceman Spiff is out there somewhere, cold and unappreciated, rolling around in the muck trying to capture that perfect picture.  Maybe say a little prayer for his health (or laugh, whatever, I’m not judging you).  Also, be sure not to miss the pictures he posts on this site after each game.     
       
      Before we get into today's Redskins game, I want give some thanks for more positive occurrences in DC sports.  Congrats to the Washington Mystics for winning their first championship.  Congrats go out to the Washington Nationals as well for reaching the world series.  These two teams (along with the Caps) are working hard to change the sports related mood around this town, and we're all happier for it. 
       
      Lets move now into less cheerful topics, namely your Washington Redskins!  Yow know things are going bad, and I mean really dang bad, when your team has gone through three quarterbacks and two coaches and your not even half way through the season.  Today's fresh hell comes in the form of a specter of the our recent past coming to smirk at our misfortune.  Im talking of course of Kyle.  Kyle's spent the week assuring everyone that he isn’t holding a grudge, while very obviously holding a grudge.  “Everything else.”  You know what I’m talking about. 
       
      If all he brought to town were his hurt feelings we wouldn’t have a problem.  Sadly, he’s arrived with an undefeated football team that the NFL says we have to play this week.  This feels entirely unfair. 
       
      My generic key to the game:  Run the ball and stop the run.  The team (spoiler alert: 49ers) that does this today will win.   
       
      Redskins Inactives  
      QB Colt McCoy  
      S Deshazor Everett  
      CB Josh Norman  
      RB Chris THompson  
      LB Josh Harvey-Clemons 
      G Wes Martin  
      TE Vernon Davis  
       
      49ers inactives  
      QB CJ Beathard 
      WR Deebo Samuel  
      CB Ahkello Witherspoon  
      FB Kyle Juszczyk 
      T Mike McGLinchey 
      T Joe Staley 
      DL DJ Jones 
       
      1st Quarter Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers
       
      Callahan wasn’t playing around when he said he wanted to run the ball.  That first drive was all runs, and looked great... right up until they tried to pass the ball.  Hopkins missed the relatively short fied goal, because of course he did.     

      Maybe Quinn isn’t a good choice to be returning punts?  Consider it.    
       
      That second Redskins drive looked more like what we’ve come to expect from this offense.  Run for negative yards, pass dropped, and an unsuccessful screen pass.  A quintessential Redskins three and out. 

      Passing yards this quarter:  Redskins 3. 49ers 9.  Are you not entertained?! 
       
      Half Time Update
      Redskins 0 – 0 49ers 
       
      How happy are you to spend your Sunday afternoon watching this game?  Consider that some people paid money, to sit in a poncho, in the rain, to watch this game. 
       
      It’s now time for those half time adjustments that our beloved skins do so well.  It’s unlikely the second half mirrors the first. 
       
      3rd Quarter Update 
      Redskins 0 – 3 49ers  
       
      Good news, this game will not end in a 0-0 tie.  Those half time adjustments have kicked in as expected and the 49ers have found a way onto the scoreboard in this messy throwback game.  The Redskins have decided to spend the second half collecting holding penalties and sadness.  Mercifully, only one quarter remains. 
       
      End of Game Update 
      Redskins 0 – 9 49ers 
       
      Callahan hasn’t spent much time as the head coach of the Washington Redskins, but he’s already proven that his team can waste 2nd half timeouts like a veteran.  It makes little sense to adopt a strategy that shortens the game when your team is losing, and it makes even less sense when your team is short on time outs.  I’m not really sure what the thinking as late in this game.    
       
      Next week Kirk Cousins!   
       
       
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The 2019 Free Agency Tracker -Added: Landon Collins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Donald Penn, Flowers, Smallwood. Lost:Preston Smith, Nsekhe, Crowder, HaHa

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Yes to Tyrell Williams in a big way. Immediate #1 on the roster. 

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1 minute ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

Year 2 of Collins's contract will be painful, but we'll be able to cut him after that, or perhaps renegotiate him.  Nine million in dead money is painful, but less painful than paying 17 million for a box safety.

 

A negative long term consequence of this signing is the fact that we redefined safety salaries.  Now they can get paid top cornerback money.  Which in term will raise the cost of corners.  That'll haunt everyone.  And we wonder why the league hates us.

 

Steve... I think you mean Year 3.

Collins counts 4M and 14M the 1st two years.

Year 3 is 17.2M and really the issue, but Im really not worried about it.

 

We have Norman, Trent, and Kerrigan all off the books after next year and Alex Smith can be cut at that point as well saving us another 13M.

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8 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

When you’re digging EXTRA DEEP to sell the “dumpster fire narrative”!

 

#boxsafety

#everybodyhatesus 

 

Why are you mocking the box safety term?  Do you know what that is?

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5 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

I assume Kelvin Benjamin will be much cheaper than Tyrell Williams who I've honestly never heard of until this past season...

 

Kelvin, although seems like an asshole, put up big numbers his first two years in Carolina.

 

KB is awful at football. No thanks. Can't separate, plays soft at his size, can't catch. 

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Just now, SemperFi Skins said:

I assume Kelvin Benjamin will be much cheaper than Tyrell Williams who I've honestly never heard of until this past season...

 

Kelvin, although seems like an asshole, put up big numbers his first two years in Carolina.

 

Would take Williams over Kelvin a million times out of a million. I wouldn't take Kelvin Benjamin for free. Kelvin is lazy and out of shape. Bad attitude. Drops. Slow. 

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22 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

It's how you operate when your main goal is to survive until next season.

 

But you don't get to have job security in any organization when you botch your QB situation as badly as Allen and Gruden have.  No regime deserves a fourth chance there.  Allen, at the very least, should have been put out of his misery by now.  The desperation creates bad decision-making, which leads to more bad decision-making to cope with prior bad decisions.  We are always going to be paying this piper with this FO structure.  They couldn't even get ahead of the curve when Kirk Cousins's unlikely emergence profoundly saved all of their asses the first time they ****ed up.

 

RG3 predates Gruden.  Gruden came in while he was still around, but he still spent a good chunk of that year injured.  So Gruden's QBs have been Cousins and Smith.  And if the Redskins roster is as inferior as people say then Cousins performance with the Vikings showed he'd have never been the teams savior

 

 

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Tyrell Williams

 

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2015 23 SDG   16 4 0 5 2 90 45.0 1 80 0.5 22.5 40.0%               2 45.0 90 1 0 1
2016 24 SDG WR 16 16 12 119 69 1059 15.3 7 51 4.3 66.2 58.0%               69 15.3 1059 7 0 9
2017 25 LAC WR 16 16 15 69 43 728 16.9 4 75 2.7 45.5 62.3%               43 16.9 728 4 1 6
2018 26 LAC lcb/wr 16 16 10 65 41 653 15.9 5 75 2.6 40.8 63.1%

 

Kelvin Benjamin

 

2014 23 CAR WR 13 16 15 145 73 1008 13.8 9 51 4.6 63.0 50.3%               73 13.8 1008 9 1 8
2016 25 CAR WR 13 16 13 118 63 941 14.9 7 50 3.9 58.8 53.4%               63 14.9 941 7 1 7
2017 26 2TM     14 14 78 48 692 14.4 3 43 3.4 49.4 61.5%          

 

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
                                                         
                                              32 14.8 475 2 0 4
2018 27 2TM     15 10 67 25 380 15.2 1 40 1.7 25.3 37.3%

 

Kelvin had a down year and switched teams... still much cheaper than Tyrell Williams and I believe both of them would be a gamble. Don't forget Cam Sims is also on the roster, just ended on IR last year.

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Preston smith is good against the run, and that’s about it. We can get a good edge rusher in the 2nd or 3rd this year and replace him. 

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5 minutes ago, Bonez3 said:

Yes to Tyrell Williams in a big way. Immediate #1 on the roster. 

 

I guess he's #1, because he's better than what's here. But he's also a guy that the Chargers had throw up over 1000 yards in 2016 when Keenan Allen went down. And then when Allen came back, the Chargers decided to draft a WR in the top 10 anyway in 2017 to push Tyrell back to #3 at best. Which isn't encouraging if you wanted that guy to be your #1. And at what cost? If Funches can get $10 million, shouldn't Williams get at least $12 million a year?

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This draft is also deep with receivers. No reason to spend lots of cash on a wr in free agency when we can get one cheaper. 

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8 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said:

Preston smith is good against the run, and that’s about it. We can get a good edge rusher in the 2nd or 3rd this year and replace him. 

 

 

He flashed against the run because that's what we were asking him to do.  

 

It does not break my heart to see him go, but it would not surprise me in the least if he has double digit sacks this year in GB if they use him in a pass rusher role.  

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2 minutes ago, carex said:

 

RG3 predates Gruden.  Gruden came in while he was still around, but he still spent a good chunk of that year injured.  So Gruden's QBs have been Cousins and Smith.  And if the Redskins roster is as inferior as people say then Cousins performance with the Vikings showed he'd have never been the teams savior

 

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Don't you hate it when your narratives get mixed up and overlap? lol..

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1 minute ago, pcbothwel said:

 

Steve... I think you mean Year 3. 

Collins counts 4M and 14M the 1st two years.

Year 3 is 17.2M and really the issue, but Im really not worried about it. 

  

We have Norman, Trent, and Kerrigan all off the books after next year and Alex Smith can be cut at that point as well saving us another 13M. 

 

I was talking about year three being the one where we cut Collins.  He'll definitely be here year two because that dead cap figure is way too high to cut him then.  But he'll almost certainly be cut or renegotiated year three because 17 million is an untenable cap hit for the position and the savings will be worth the dead cap hit.

 

I don't like carrying around all of this dead cap money, and pushing pain an offseason or two away.  It keeps us in a cycle of dead cap space and we end up having to let people walk.  Plus I don't want the next regime to be hamstrung in their first and second offseasons by the mistakes of this one.

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1 minute ago, Jericho said:

 

I guess he's #1, because he's better than what's here. But he's also a guy that the Chargers had throw up over 1000 yards in 2016 when Keenan Allen went down. And then when Allen came back, the Chargers decided to draft a WR in the top 10 anyway in 2017 to push Tyrell back to #3 at best. Which isn't encouraging if you wanted that guy to be your #1. And at what cost? If Funches can get $10 million, shouldn't Williams get at least $12 million a year?

The cost to me would be Crowder range money... 8-9 mil a year. Williams is a big target, good hands and experienced. 

 

Not an elite WR, but a true #1. The cuts to Brown, McGee and maybe one of the TE's would make this a nice signing. 

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Just now, Skin'emAlive said:

This draft is also deep with receivers. No reason to spend lots of cash on a wr in free agency when we can get one cheaper. 

 

I agree with that... I've stated many times that Deebo Samuel is my favorite WR in this class.

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2 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

 

Tyrell Williams

 

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2015 23 SDG   16 4 0 5 2 90 45.0 1 80 0.5 22.5 40.0%               2 45.0 90 1 0 1
2016 24 SDG WR 16 16 12 119 69 1059 15.3 7 51 4.3 66.2 58.0%               69 15.3 1059 7 0 9
2017 25 LAC WR 16 16 15 69 43 728 16.9 4 75 2.7 45.5 62.3%               43 16.9 728 4 1 6
2018 26 LAC lcb/wr 16 16 10 65 41 653 15.9 5 75 2.6 40.8 63.1%

 

Kelvin Benjamin

 

2014 23 CAR WR 13 16 15 145 73 1008 13.8 9 51 4.6 63.0 50.3%               73 13.8 1008 9 1 8
2016 25 CAR WR 13 16 13 118 63 941 14.9 7 50 3.9 58.8 53.4%               63 14.9 941 7 1 7
2017 26 2TM     14 14 78 48 692 14.4 3 43 3.4 49.4 61.5%          

 

You cut off Benjamins 2018...

 

He was good his first two years. Big, young target. Then he got out of shape, then he stopped caring. Trust me I am in Carolina country, I saw and heard plenty of Kelvin. 

 

Also take into the account that Tyrell was the 3rd option, at best. Kelvin was the #1. 

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3 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said:

This draft is also deep with receivers. No reason to spend lots of cash on a wr in free agency when we can get one cheaper. 

My previous post suggested we go WR in round 1, I agree. But Williams will be a guy who gets open more than Doctson & Richardson. Richardson probably cut after next year and Doctson might not be in the league. I'd like to have Williams as the building piece at a price range of 8-10 mill a year on 4 year deal. Still drafting a WR

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Just now, dballer said:

 

You cut off Benjamins 2018...

 

He was good his first two years. Big, young target. Then he got out of shape, then he stopped caring. Trust me I am in Carolina country, I saw and heard plenty of Kelvin. 

 

Also take into the account that Tyrell was the 3rd option, at best. Kelvin was the #1. 

 

I added 2018 shortly thereafter

 

Tyrell as the #1 this year had less than 700 yards. Benjamin was averaging 1000 yards as the #1. He had a down year, didn't start, and was between 2-3 teams this year. Not saying he's the best thing since sliced bread, however, I am saying he's just as much a gamble as Williams is and I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money to Williams that he's requesting.

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Too late, Chargers signing LB Thomas Davis...

 

Packers releasing OLB Nick Perry due to the signings of Smith and Smith. I assume Clay Matthews will be out as well. (Not advocating for either one of these guys)

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5 minutes ago, carex said:

  

RG3 predates Gruden.  Gruden came in while he was still around, but he still spent a good chunk of that year injured.  So Gruden's QBs have been Cousins and Smith.  And if the Redskins roster is as inferior as people say then Cousins performance with the Vikings showed he'd have never been the teams savior 

 

Gruden was hired to salvage RGIII's career.  He failed, but RGIII's injuries and Kirk's surprising emergence gave Gruden the mulligan he needed.

 

He would have been fired years ago if Kirk hadn't become a good starting QB.  Make no mistake, that's what Kirk is.  This roster is not inferior, it's mostly built and we'd be a lot better off today if we had just paid Kirk.  The FO ****ed the dog on that situation and we're still bailing water trying to recover from the mistake.  I know this FO would prefer for fan memory to go back only a couple of months, but It's not lost on me that we couldn't find the money to pay Kirk, but we could find the money to pay Alex Smith and reset the safety market.

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7 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

 

I agree with that... I've stated many times that Deebo Samuel is my favorite WR in this class.

 

Deebo has linsfranc problems. We would be foolish to bring him to Washington. 

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26 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Sign Derrick Morgan or Shaq Barrett to replace Smith shortterm with hopes of drafting someone on the edge. Anderson can still play rotational or can play some ILB as well. 

 

Eh, I don't see a point in getting an older short term option to try and start.  Take the training wheels off for Anderson this year.  We need to know what he can do as a starter.  We can go cheaper at OLB and get a vet back up.

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