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      In today's Divisional Debacle, the Defense under Greg Manusky in the first half, gave up 207 yards of offense (105 rushing/102 passing) and two touchdowns.  That said, they did manage a single INT on which the Offense actually managed to score a touchdown off of. They allowed 12 of 16 passes to be completed . 
       
      In the second half it was 107 yards given up (58 rushing//49 passing) a field goal and a touchdown. They traded their first half pick for a second half sack. However, Dallas completed all five of their pass attempts. 
       
      Don't read that thinking "Well it seems like they tightened up some in the 2nd half."  They didn't. They simply had about half the plays in the second half. 30 plays in the First and 18 in the Second.
       
      So far in two Divisional matchups, the Defense has faltered in the Second half. They start out like a house of fire for the first few drives until their opponents gradually make adjustments. This Defensive coaching staff fails make any adjustments, whether in game or at the very least at Halftime. They've given up over 30 points per game for a total of 63 points given up in two games. While the Bears are up next, the Pats await and they've put up over 70 points in two games. Yeah. Ok. They did shut out the Dolphins today which is looking like the NFL version of ... ahem... shooting fish in a barrel. 
       
      The frustrating thing is Manusky is the DC that the Front Office actively looked to replace during the off season without firing him. When you know they're looking to replace you, most people would make a concentrated effort to show an improvement. Yet Manusky's Defense still keeps acting like it's starring in Groundhog Day.
       
      In his post game presser, when asked directly about if any coaching changes would be made, Gruden said "No, I think after two games – you’re talking about playing two very good offensive football teams and two of the best offensive lines in pro football we just played back-to-back. That’s no excuse whatsoever, but I don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet. We just have to continue to focus on what we can do better to win. Get Jonathan [Allen] in here, get a couple of our corners back in here and let’s go back and strap it up against Chicago [Bears] next week and see what happens.” 
       
      Here's another frustrating thing. The defensive communication was an issue last season as well. Wasn't this supposed to have been worked on during OTA's and Training Camp? It's understandable that the rookies would still be on a learning curve, but NFL vets like Collins and DRC you'd think they would have down by the start of the season. 
       
      Gruden said they're a very talented group on Defense but that they weren't reaching them. When questioned as to why the coaching staff that has been in place for several years, wasn't reaching them, he defended the comment as them being a young defense. “We have some moving parts now. Landon Collins is a veteran guy but this is his first year, [Montez] Sweat’s in his first year, [Cole] Holcomb, it’s his first year, [Jon] Bostic is in his first year. We’re playing Dominique [Rodgers-Cromartie] at corner and this is Jimmy Moreland’s first year, so it’s not like we are the most experienced group. We feel like were very talented, but we`re still fighting through somethings. There are a lot of things to look forward to, without a doubt, but we do have to play better and strap it up and get back to work."

       
       
       
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2 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

 

What are you talking about? Who am I suggesting we 'restructure'? Or are you suggesting we should pay Norman 15mil or so next year, or that we shouldn't extend Scherff? Or that we shouldn't cut Davis to save 5mil. Or that expending over 16mil in cap space on an average TE crop that can't block is ok. Because to change any of that is 'wrong'.

 

You said no money and that is wrong. Plain and simple. Your original statement was exaggerated for effect. We don't need to do a bunch of anything. We could make one or two justified moves from both a football and cap management perspective without compromise.

 

I know from past experience that you aren't interested in moving from your original statement under discussion though, so I'm sure you are correct, we have no money :nono:

 

You mentioned Trent W and R Kerrigan. So if you are not restructuring then you are releasing them? Since you were not clear so I did assume you meant restructure to star with. More importantly, I did not see this comment when I responded with my last response - was playing golf and reading at the same time - a bit slow out there.

 

4 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

 

I haven't suggested we should do that. Release someone on an overinflated deal yes, ask someone to renegotiate down their terms to match their value/production, but not to restructure money out simply to facilitate another FA move. I don't promote that either.

 

You originally stated we have 'no money' left. I just don't think that is true. If the Jets hadn't pushed the boundary too far, we'd have CJ Mosley on board.

 

A long term deal for Scherff will create circa 4mil in cap space this year alone. There really are numerous ways to debunk the notion we have 'no money' left.

 

Plus we have an expired CBA on the horizon. I will leave it at that.

 

So fair enough you are suggesting they could release those players to get there. And that is possible. I even suggested it if we did not go for a QB at 15 in this draft. But if you are getting a lot of money to sign Wagner, I go back to you are doing so because you think he is one of the very few pieces left. Releasing two starters to get there only opens other holes to fill. I just do not think that's smart. 

 

And you are right had I just said they have no money and left it that I would agree. I did explain with more detail that when I said no money it as not literal. If you still want to take it that way, that's up to you. But I thought I made it pretty clear from the beginning I did not mean it literally. Of course they have some money. My point was that to me they in effect do not have any money - certainly not enough to sign Wagner without putting themselves in a long term bind. 

 

The expired CBA was not our friend before. I am pretty sure there will be even more scrutiny on the Redskins. If you are thinking they negotiate for a higher CAP, I do not see that happening. But who knows. 

 

I just do not think it's smart for them to pursue Wagner considering the type of money he wants and where the Redskins are in terms of CAP considering he is a short term solution to a long term problem. 

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8 hours ago, Stadium-Armory said:

 

By all accounts, we had a good draft. But so did lots of teams. Everyone thinks they got better.  The question, is: did we get "more better" than others? Hard to say. 

 

Well I wasn't comparing it to other teams, I was comparing it to back in January lol...

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Probably already posted but I hope his rehab is going well. I’ve heard two sides to that.

 

 

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Honestly as much as Wagner or another high caliber player would be nice, I really wish we would focus on extending Scheriff and then signing Safety Boston.

 

The Alex Smith Contact is killing us...

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Teams in need of a starting tight end should be intrigued. While Rudolph, 29, isn't as dominant as the league's top-tier tight ends (he's no Travis Kelce or Zach Ertz), he does offers capable hands and solid blocking. Over the past four years, he's played in all 64 possible games and averaged 63.3 receptions, 625.2 yards, and six touchdowns per season. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/six-possible-kyle-rudolph-landing-spots-after-vikings-reportedly-fielded-interest-for-tight-end-during-draft/amp/

 

Rudolph is intriguing bc he is durable and would be the most well rounded tight end on our roster if we acquired him.  A tight end who doesn't tell which play we are running would be nice, especially for a rookie QB (but who knows, the tight end may be less prevalent in our new offense). I know he is already 29, but article says mid to late gets it done, I'd trade a 5th and cut Davis to make it work under the cap and walk away feeling great.

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FA Part 2 has started by my clock!  Let's see is the Skins are active w/o having to give up a comp pick next year.  We lack at TE and also FS.  

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11 hours ago, Skin'emAlive said:

Trade a 5th on a Mediocre TE in the final year of his contract? Not a chance 

I would say he is better than mediocre, being a reliable red zone target over the years.  I would rather have Rudolph over Reed solely due to dependability (and I also like how Rudolph can actually block).  

 

Reed is a nice threat when he is on the field, but considering his injury history and the fact that he is getting older, maybe it would be wise to trade him for a pick.  I wonder what his market is?  Could we get a 6th for him?  Getting a comparable pick for Reed that we give up for Rudolph would negate the loss of a draft pick, and I think we will have improved our TE position.  With Reed coming off the books, the 6 mil in space that is freed up will help lessen the impact of the 7.625 hit for Rudolph.  We could even keep Davis to back up for the short term.  

 

Even if Rudolph wasn't extended, I think that would be a series of moves worth making, but I would also hope the skins would have an extension agreed upon with Rudolph before they pull the trigger.  Rudolph has a few more serviceable years left, and a veteran, durable tight end could help Haskins, and it also buys the skins a couple more years to draft his replacement.  

 

I think this is something they should look into.

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13 hours ago, KillBill26 said:

Teams in need of a starting tight end should be intrigued. While Rudolph, 29, isn't as dominant as the league's top-tier tight ends (he's no Travis Kelce or Zach Ertz), he does offers capable hands and solid blocking. Over the past four years, he's played in all 64 possible games and averaged 63.3 receptions, 625.2 yards, and six touchdowns per season. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/six-possible-kyle-rudolph-landing-spots-after-vikings-reportedly-fielded-interest-for-tight-end-during-draft/amp/

 

Rudolph is intriguing bc he is durable and would be the most well rounded tight end on our roster if we acquired him.  A tight end who doesn't tell which play we are running would be nice, especially for a rookie QB (but who knows, the tight end may be less prevalent in our new offense). I know he is already 29, but article says mid to late gets it done, I'd trade a 5th and cut Davis to make it work under the cap and walk away feeling great.

 

The issue we'll have with Rudolph is his cost. He's currently the 9th most expensive TE and his cap hit is $7,625,000. He'll be a FA after this season, so he'd be a one year rental. I see why the Vikings want to make the move because they have ~$1.4M in cap space and would get all of Rudolph's cap number back. 

 

If we made this move we'd have the #3 (Reed), #9 (Rudolph) and #18 (Davis) most expensive TEs in the league. I'd be okay with the move if we followed this by cutting Reed. Rudolph has a lower ceiling as a pass catcher, but he's a better blocker and has played in every game of the last 4 seasons. 

 

Looking back on it that Reed contract isn't the same dollar value as Alex Smith's, but has the same amount of value created. the OP mentioned cutting Davis, but I'd argue he's not only worth his contract (often is our starting TE), but also at his age has comparable upside to Reed. 

 

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We're not competing for the SB this season. If we want Rudolph then wait to see if he'll become a FA after the year. If he signs an extension with whomever he plays for this season then no big loss. I still expect big things from Sprinkle and if not i'd look at someone like Jacob Breeland in the 2020 draft.

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We already have the most cap of any team in 2019 allocated to the TE position. 

 

I would trade for Rudolph though and then extend him. Cut Davis, saves 5mil in cap OR offer him a reduced salary contract to stay in 2019. Second option is Gresham for me.

 

Patriots will likely trade for Rudolph.

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8 hours ago, PartyPosse said:

We're not competing for the SB this season. If we want Rudolph then wait to see if he'll become a FA after the year. If he signs an extension with whomever he plays for this season then no big loss. I still expect big things from Sprinkle and if not i'd look at someone like Jacob Breeland in the 2020 draft.

Yes the Redskins are..there most certainly competing for the superbowl.of course gruden and d Williams is aiming for a Superbowl..isn't every team?..isn't this what it's all about?..stay injury free on the o line and Guice n Peterson have a fantastic season and oh of course #toptendefense.. every team every year #superbowlorbust.

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As good as Wagner is, please do not sign an older player to an expensive contract. We aren’t ready yet. Let’s do homegrown or younger free agents.

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Reed is garbage. Even when he actually does play, he only does half his job. I'd love to see him gone. If we could get either of those TEs and move on from Reed, wed be a better team. That said, if we did dump Reed, I'd home it was out of conference, because he is one hell of a receiver. 

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52 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Reed is garbage. Even when he actually does play, he only does half his job. I'd love to see him gone. If we could get either of those TEs and move on from Reed, wed be a better team. That said, if we did dump Reed, I'd home it was out of conference, because he is one hell of a receiver. 

Even when “healthy”at this point, he seems to have lost a step.

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Have any teams been talking with Tre Boston and/or Eric Berry? I can't see why the Redskins aren't exploring those options. Are we really comfortable with the options at FS already on our roster?  

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3 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

Reed is garbage. Even when he actually does play, he only does half his job. I'd love to see him gone. If we could get either of those TEs and move on from Reed, wed be a better team. That said, if we did dump Reed, I'd home it was out of conference, because he is one hell of a receiver. 

 

I mean, i don't understand why he isn't lined up at receiver more often...He runs routes like a receiver...blocks like a receiver...if it quacks like a duck yada yada...the guy is a large slot receiver...

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Would expect us to be sniffing around other teams roster cuts over the coming few weeks. Really want something at FS.

 

Was just reading about Joshua Garnett, former first rounder in SF who is all but done there. Didn't exercise his 5th year option. Don't get me wrong, he's done nothing at all there, but for an OG, he is the kind of player I could see ending up here. Nothing like a former first round reclamation project.

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4 hours ago, dballer said:

 

I mean, i don't understand why he isn't lined up at receiver more often...He runs routes like a receiver...blocks like a receiver...if it quacks like a duck yada yada...the guy is a large slot receiver...

 

How a scheme can’t be developed to put Reed in advantageous blocking situations is mind boggling. We seem to be a team still stuck in assigning players positions and not wavering from it. Not unlike how the NBA was 10 years ago with positions. NFL is getting there, some teams ahead of others. 

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8 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

How a scheme can’t be developed to put Reed in advantageous blocking situations is mind boggling. We seem to be a team still stuck in assigning players positions and not wavering from it. Not unlike how the NBA was 10 years ago with positions. NFL is getting there, some teams ahead of others. 

Reed doesn't even attempt to be in the way, let alone block.

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I'd add to my earlier post, Darron Lee from the Jets. They are trying to ship him out, worth a conditional late round pick in 2020 / or switch of late round picks in 2020...Any takers?

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I read on twitter that the Seahawks released Kam Chancellor and Doug Baldwin today with failed physical designations. Didn’t kam retire last year though? At least that’s what people were saying in the comments...

 

would Doug Baldwin be good to try to sign though? 

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6 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

I read on twitter that the Seahawks released Kam Chancellor and Doug Baldwin today with failed physical designations. Didn’t kam retire last year though? At least that’s what people were saying in the comments...

 

would Doug Baldwin be good to try to sign though? 

 

His career is likely over.

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