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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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The 2019 Free Agency Tracker -Added: Landon Collins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Donald Penn, Flowers, Smallwood. Lost:Preston Smith, Nsekhe, Crowder, HaHa

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As we found out last season, if you're down to playing your 5th string OG, you're screwed anyway...

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13 minutes ago, sempre_victrix said:

I think that we should address OL in the draft, as quickly as possible.  This does not sound like a good signing, unless he suddenly realizes that he's been wearing his shoes on the wrong feet since he was drafted.

 

I think he wears them on the correct feet.  i don't have the ability to zoom in on his feet, but from a distance, it seems like he is playing on roller skates.  Maybe that is the issue.

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I'm starting to get the feeling that in 2025 we'll be talking about the awful 2019 season where we signed or traded for players like Rogers-Cromartie, Flowers, Keenum and God knows who else is coming down the road here......

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11 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

I'm starting to get the feeling that in 2025 we'll be talking about the awful 2019 season where we signed or traded for players like Rogers-Cromartie, Flowers, Keenum and God knows who else is coming down the road here......

 

the way fans around here talk there's nothing special about that.

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42 minutes ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said:

 

This may be the most ridiculous take unless, and i say unless, the $4M is fully guaranteed. If in fact most of it is incentives - which I think is already being reported, this writer just wanted an excuse to trash the Redskins. 

 

Let's start with he has not made the team yet. And if he does it means he beat someone out. As for the one yr deal, why would you commit more than one year? Give him a prove it deal, and if he proves it pay him. It's still not going to be an extraordinary contract. 

 

This was a knee jerk reaction but a jerk writer who was looking for an excuse to trash the Redskins.

 

I think he must have dropped his passy: 

 

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Not sure why so many people have this illusion that Callahan is somehow going to transform mid level O lineman to solid starters.  Look at his track record since he has been here with OL who have been drafted in the mid rounds.  He has developed no one for the most part and there have been many.  Hell people they have brought in couldn't even beat out broken down lineman like Lavou.  And he hasn't resurrected any of the players they picked up off the streets either.  I am expecting the same with this guy as well.  Based on his performance in Washington, Callahan is overrated in my humble opinion. 

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As far as flowers goes..in Callahan we trust!! eh..hope for the best and wish him luck I guess... welcome flowers!!.. Httr!!

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It’s a smart pick up after they lost Ty. Incentive laden contract to make the guy perform or he walks.....not a bad move

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Who's seen the ****in Chucky clip yet?.. Chucky reminds me of Halloween Halloween is in fall football is in fall..

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On 3/18/2019 at 5:51 AM, TheShredder said:
On 3/18/2019 at 1:11 AM, rumplestilskin said:

Flowers LOL...

Roses are Brown

Violets are Brown

Hey who **** in my GARDEN?

Hopefully we are the mystery team in on Nick Easton

Flowers cost you nothing to see if you can coach him up for OL depth during OTAs/Camp.  At least he's not often injured and 24 yr old former 1st round pick.  Maybe he's been playing out of position as a tackle.  No risk in signing him to let our OL guru have a crack at him. 

Nick Easton is soft former 6th rounder.  Just not talented. Why would you want less talent?  Not saying Flowers vs Easton is talent vs talent comparison because Flowers hasn't played Guard.  However Nick Easton has only been available for 23 games in 4 years!  Guess he'd fit right in with the Skins OL...what the hell

Edited yesterday at 05:53 AM by TheShredder

Nailed it. Bam!

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37 minutes ago, Bigmuss1 said:

It’s a smart pick up after they lost Ty. Incentive laden contract to make the guy perform or he walks.....not a bad move

 

Its debatable if he's a better player but its a better situation because of Tys age and injury history.  We were picking folk off the street and running the ball, Flowers might not be great here but he doesn't need to be.  Who knows though, worth a shot, one year $4 mill, why not?

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I think Flowers has a chance at lg. Playing guard is like being in a telephone booth in pass pro and will  eliminate him from moving laterally much. Also, at 6ft 6in 335 pounds if you get this guy running straight at you in the running game not many lb's and safeties are going to want to take him on. 

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1 hour ago, glongest said:

Not sure why so many people have this illusion that Callahan is somehow going to transform mid level O lineman to solid starters.  Look at his track record since he has been here with OL who have been drafted in the mid rounds.  He has developed no one for the most part and there have been many.  Hell people they have brought in couldn't even beat out broken down lineman like Lavou.  And he hasn't resurrected any of the players they picked up off the streets either.  I am expecting the same with this guy as well.  Based on his performance in Washington, Callahan is overrated in my humble opinion. 

 

I swear, do other teams fans create false narratives in their heads like this?

 

Callahan has only been here since 2015.  In that time out lower round OL selections have been Arie Kouandijo, Austin Reiter, Chase Roullier and Geron Christian

 

Roullier is our starter at center

 

Of the others we lost Reiter while trying to stash him on the PS.  He's been a spot starter on two teams.  Arie failed, then got a second chance and seemed like he was going to be our starter till he got hurt and Christian was always a project.

 

Few of the people we brought in were consistent starters on other teams and frequently got injured on the Skins.  And it should not be surprising when a rookie UDFA can't beat out a healthy vet.  Lauvao is an average player when he's healthy and average guys get drafted.  UDFA are generally raw guys with potential

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4 hours ago, goskins10 said:

I see people reacting to $4M for Flowers. It reminds me of when people got all pissed about Scandrick and his initial contract - 2yrs $7M. Then it turned out all of $1M was gauranteed. Need to see th full contract deals. These reports are always full potential deals not the important details of guaranteed money. 

 

If it is $4M guaranteed, then this a bad signing. if it's full of incentives and/or the guaranteed money is more like $1M, then it's no harm no foul. Bring him in and see if he can compete. If he can with new scenery and maybe a position change, Great. If not, move along little doggie.  Again, it's March 18th. Still a lot to be decided before they release the 53 man active roster. 

 

 

I refer you back to the - You can;t make Chicken Salad out of Chicken ****. All the coaching in the world cannot actually tackle or catch a ball or make a guy stay healthy. Until there is a real NFL starting roster it is hard to say the lack of Ws are on the coaching. 

 

What we do know is Bruce Allen is a ****ing moron. He is not trusted by agents, players, or owners - well except one unfortunately. He has destroyed every NFL team has has been to. Totally inept. 

If any of this contract is guaranteed it is a bad contract (Heck for that matter if Scandrick had 1 mil guaranteed that ended up being a terrible contract).

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7 minutes ago, carex said:

 

I swear, do other teams fans create false narratives in their heads like this?

 

Callahan has only been here since 2015.  In that time out lower round OL selections have been Arie Kouandijo, Austin Reiter, Chase Roullier and Geron Christian

 

Roullier is our starter at center

 

Of the others we lost Reiter while trying to stash him on the PS.  He's been a spot starter on two teams.  Arie failed, then got a second chance and seemed like he was going to be our starter till he got hurt and Christian was always a project.

 

Few of the people we brought in were consistent starters on other teams and frequently got injured on the Skins.  And it should not be surprising when a rookie UDFA can't beat out a healthy vet.  Lauvao is an average player when he's healthy and average guys get drafted.  UDFA are generally raw guys with potential

 

I might even chalk up Moses' development to Callahan...he was awful as a 2014 rookie.

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1 hour ago, goskins10 said:

 

This may be the most ridiculous take unless, and i say unless, the $4M is fully guaranteed. If in fact most of it is incentives - which I think is already being reported, this writer just wanted an excuse to trash the Redskins. 

 

Let's start with he has not made the team yet. And if he does it means he beat someone out. As for the one yr deal, why would you commit more than one year? Give him a prove it deal, and if he proves it pay him.

 

I disagree.  If almost any portion of the contract is guaranteed, it is a bad deal for the Redskins.  I don't think anyone expected him to make a roster unless it was for a league minimum deal.  The expectation was that a team would pay him less than one million, IF he was able to show he was good enough to play on an NFL team.  If it costs the team anything to cut him, it is a bad deal.  Maybe if most of the $4 mil is for absurd incentives (like all pro selection), it is reasonable.  Otherwise, he is going to be paid more than the starting QB, and most of the starters on the team... Despite being a guy that no one else seems to want even as a backup.  If he shows enough ability to make the team, he should still be getting 1 mil or less.  In my opinion.

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Yeah Flowers likely didn't get much in the form of guarantees but more likely playing bonus as it appears they targeted him for LG competition.  He's likely been playing out of position in the NFL and could very well find a home as a starting LG with the help of TW and Callahan & Co.  It would seem to me that if it works out, it's brilliant.  If it doesn't and he doesn't make the roster then I still think it was worth it as long as they don't have to take any cap hit.

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1 hour ago, Bigmuss1 said:

It’s a smart pick up after they lost Ty. Incentive laden contract to make the guy perform or he walks.....not a bad move

Several posts that it is an incentive laden contract (I hope so) but have any details other than the $4mil been released? I think those posting this are in my own hoping category.

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Bruce Allen calls Bill Callahan....Hey Bill, you think you can make a OT into a Starting LG? 

Bill...Yeah, who is it?

Bruce Allen...Don't worry about it.  Thanks.  {hangs up}

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6 minutes ago, Nerm said:

 

I disagree.  If almost any portion of the contract is guaranteed, it is a bad deal for the Redskins.  I don't think anyone expected him to make a roster unless it was for a league minimum deal.  The expectation was that a team would pay him less than one million, IF he was able to show he was good enough to play on an NFL team.  If it costs the team anything to cut him, it is a bad deal.  Maybe if most of the $4 mil is for absurd incentives (like all pro selection), it is reasonable.  Otherwise, he is going to be paid more than the starting QB, and most of the starters on the team... Despite being a guy that no one else seems to want even as a backup.  If he shows enough ability to make the team, he should still be getting 1 mil or less.  In my opinion.

 

I think the people expecting that were very short sighted.  It takes more than two teams for a first round pick to bust out of the league, especially when he spent most of that time as a starter.  Hell we're Jonathan Cooper's sixth team and he was constantly hurt

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55 minutes ago, Ghedrick said:

I think Flowers has a chance at lg. Playing guard is like being in a telephone booth in pass pro and will  eliminate him from moving laterally much. Also, at 6ft 6in 335 pounds if you get this guy running straight at you in the running game not many lb's and safeties are going to want to take him on. 

Hopefully this will be Mike Williams 2.0 minus the weight issues

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