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      ES Coverage Cowboys vs Redskins 2019
       
      9/15/19
       
      Do I look like I'm playing? I'm not playing. This is the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys. If you are a fan of this game, and this one does not get you excited you might want to check your pulse.
       
      Hello my friends it is I, JimmiJo, back for another year of this wonderful thing we call Redskins Football. This makes season 14 for me. I am joined by The Spaceman Spiff who will hereafter be known as "The Spaceman Spiff." 
       
      Where's that dude that gets the big tattoos on his back? There's his next one.
       
      So how important is this game? I don't know. What is the different between 1-1 and 0-2? The difference between batting .500 and zippy?
       
      Throw in that this is their 2nd division game to start the year AND a home game and you have a critical match.
       
      And once again they contend with critical injuries to start the year. Last year it was  their rookie star running back. This year its their 2nd year star...well you get the rest.  Darrius Guice is gone and not coming back this year. I think this really hurts him moving forward. Not sure who will build a scheme around him given his first two seasons.
       
      So it is down to the veteran Adrian Peterson. I have no worries of ring rust for hum. None whatsoever. He knows what to do.
       
      Anyway, almost time. Please share your thoughts.
       
      Stand by...
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 23 CB Quinton Dunbar
      o   No. 31 Fabian Moreau
      o   No. 64 C Ross Pierschbacher
      o   No. 67 G Wes Martin
      o   No. 86 TE Jordan Reed
      o   No. 93 DT Jonathan Allen
       
      The Cowboys declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 10 WR Tavon Austin
      o   No. 37 S Donovan Wilson
      o   No. 57 LB Luke Gifford
      o   No. 61 C Adam Redmond
      o   No. 69 G Brandon Knight
      o   No. 79 DT Trysten Hill
      o   No. 97 DE Taco Charlton
       
      Follow along in-game at Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      JimmiJo
       
      Head coach Jay Gruden said it is not time to press the panic button when asked if staff changes could occur on the defensive coaching staff. It may not be for him, but he might want to pay attention to the sounds coming from the owners suite at Redskins Park.
       
      For example the sound of shouting and heavy objects striking walls could portend an early offseason for someone.
       
      The Washington Redskins are now 0-2 to start the season. They are 0-2 in the division.
       
      If that is not panic-inducing, they face a Chicago Bears football team (themselves in need of a solid win) on Monday Night Football next. A series they do not typically do well on.
       
      In both games to open the campaign the winning teams had the game well in hand at the start of the fourth quarter, despite Washington taking leads in each of the games.
       
      Against Dallas, the team began well again; taking a 7-0 lead into the second quarter. This was not quite the 17-0 start they had in Philadelphia. Nor did it take until halftime for the Cowboys to adjust.
       
      It happened on Dallas’ fourth drive. Starting at their own 3-yard line at 9:44 in the 2nd period, the Cowboys employed a combination of runs up the middle and quick outs in the flats and sideline to advance the ball 97-yards in 7 plays and tie the game.
       
      Following a three-and-out by Washington, Dallas went 74-yards on 11-plays to take the 14-7 lead at halftime.
       
      The 3rd Quarter began with the Cowboys receiving the ball at their own 25. Nine plays  and 75-yards later they were leading 21-7.
       
      The Redskins made it interesting with their own 11-play, 70-yard drive to cut he lead to 7.
       
      But Dallas responded with a field goal. And would add another touchdown in the fourth quarter to extend the lead to 17.
       
      Washington’s consolation score with just under 3-minutes remaining allowed rookie Terry McLaurin to add a touchdown to his debut season.
       
      The Redskins have developed a reputation for not responding well to adjustments. They had little answer for the adjustments Dallas made to their offense. Ditto the game in Philadelphia.
       
      In both, Washington had a lead to protect and could not.
       
      Coming into the season the defense was expected to the be the strength of the team. Yet in two games they have surrendered 910 yards (445 per game) and 63 points. Not exactly setting the world on fire.
       
      Statistically the Redskins defense are near the bottom in points allowed and yards surrendered.
       
      The coach wants to blame injuries. Not only the their excellent young nose tackle in Jonathan Allen, but also to the secondary which has already gone significant realignment to accommodate injuries to Quinton Dunbar and Fabian Moreau.
       
      Still, with the specter of a season going off the rails after only two games, the fans want someone to blame.
       
      Wont be the quarterback. Case Keenum has completed 68.2 percent of his passes. He has thrown 3 touchdowns against no interceptions.
      Ditto other skill positions. Adrian Peterson did not his best outing but the team abandoned the run early. The receivers are doling their own, with guys like McLaurin shining.
       
      And as bad as the collapse was last week and the home loss this, it feels too early to call for the head coach.
       
      That leaves those in charge of the defense. Specifically, Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky.
       
      Fan ire seems more and more to be falling on Manusky, if sentiment on twitter and sports radio means anything.
       
      But they don’t decide who stays and who leaves. That is the job of the head coach who so far, is backing his guy.
       
      But there is a higher authority at Redskins Park. Legend has it owner Daniel Snyder once put a gallon of vanilla ice cream outside a Redskins defensive coordinator’s door following a poor performance by the defense.  
       
      Given the start to this season, Manusky could be hearing the ice cream truck in his sleep. And that would be better than what many of the fans are wishing for him.
       
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The 2019 Free Agency Tracker -Added: Landon Collins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Donald Penn, Flowers, Smallwood. Lost:Preston Smith, Nsekhe, Crowder, HaHa

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1 hour ago, JSSkinz said:

I'm not sure why some are enamored with Teddy, lifetime he's 29 TD's and 23 Ints and his QBR in both years he started would put him at or near the bottom 3rd of the league.

 

 

 

because people think he has unrealized potential due to the injuries

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43 minutes ago, carex said:

 

because people think he has unrealized potential due to the injuries

 

Probably because it appeared he was trending in positive direction. 

 

2015 (age 23 season) he played all 16 games and team won 11 games. 

 

I have zero direct insight, as I can remember zero games of him and have no basis to compare his game to game or season to season improvement. 

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2 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

I'm not sure why some are enamored with Teddy, lifetime he's 29 TD's and 23 Ints and his QBR in both years he started would put him at or near the bottom 3rd of the league.

 

 

 

Agree, I don't get the love either.

3 hours ago, Jericho said:

Don't really understand the allure of Peterson on a 3 year deal. Many people thought he was washed up before last season. Turns out he was not, but when the cliff comes, it tends to come fast. 

 

I think the three year deal will be more for cap and cosmetic reasons more than anything else. A one year 5 mil deal is pretty bad for our cap situation in 2019.

 

A 4mil signing bonus and a 1mil salary in 2019, combined with a 3year deal, make the cap hit in 2019 less than 2.5mil.

 

thats my logic as to why we may see a multi year deal for AP.

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3 hours ago, carex said:

 

because people think he has unrealized potential due to the injuries

You could say that about half of our offense.

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57 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

You could say that about half of our offense.

 

yes, you can, though in Bridgewater's case it was one extreme injury rather than recurring ones

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On 2/23/2019 at 12:24 PM, JSSkinz said:

I'm not sure why some are enamored with Teddy, lifetime he's 29 TD's and 23 Ints and his QBR in both years he started would put him at or near the bottom 3rd of the league.

 

 

 

1) He was a pro-bowler prior to the injury. 

2) He looked good in the 2018 pre-season with the Jets. Against us. See the link below.

3) Sean Payton likes him.

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000948441/Every-Teddy-Bridgewater-throw-Preseason-Week-2

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On 2/23/2019 at 2:24 PM, JSSkinz said:

I'm not sure why some are enamored with Teddy, lifetime he's 29 TD's and 23 Ints and his QBR in both years he started would put him at or near the bottom 3rd of the league.

 

 

 

I will say that if you have full choice of all options, Bridgewater is the most interesting because there's an element of the unknown. You know what you'll get with guys like Taylor, Bortles, Tannehill and to some extent Keenum. But Bridgewater is a bit of a wild card. A former first round pick with at least competent stats, but then nothing for 3 years due to injuries and various QB situations. And New Orleans spent a 3rd round pick to acquire him last year despite not needing him to actually play a down. So there's still some love there and that allure of the unknown.

 

Kind of reminds me when the Redskins were looking to trade Jason Campbell. Campbell wasn't a terrible NFL QB, but you knew what he was and he wasn't going to be your starter. At the same time, Seattle was dealing Charlie Whitehurst. Whitehurst was a complete unknown. But Whitehurst fetched a third round pick with a swap of second rounders. Campbell got a 4th round pick, though it was for two years after the deal was made. So a much lower return for Campbell. Turns out Whitehurst sucked and was worse than Campbell. But NFL teams talked themselves into the unknown of what Whitehurst could be over what Campbell was.

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On 2/23/2019 at 2:24 PM, JSSkinz said:

I'm not sure why some are enamored with Teddy, lifetime he's 29 TD's and 23 Ints and his QBR in both years he started would put him at or near the bottom 3rd of the league.

 

 

Look at the current crop of FAs, all you have to believe is that Bridgewater is the best one available to us. The other FA options are to sign Taylor or resign Johnson. Taylor is no better than a wash against Bridgewater.  Johnson definitely a far inferior choice. Other alternative is to trade up and overdraft a guy, hope we get lucky or roll with McCoy.

 

Sean Payton gave up a third for him.  He was pretty much the only guy left interested in Brees after Brees was injured at the end of 2005.  Problem is here would be how hot Sean is to keep him.  If we get him without paying too much, I'd be worried.

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These 5 teams would likely pursue Landon Collins if Giants let him walk
Cowboys, Bucs, Chiefs, 49r's and Skins

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29 minutes ago, HigSkin said:

 

These 5 teams would likely pursue Landon Collins if Giants let him walk
Cowboys, Bucs, Chiefs, 49r's and Skins

 

I also read today peter king thinks the redskins are one of the teams that have a shot at landing Antonio Brown.. although he would be leaving a team that makes the playoffs every year and is a legit super bowl contender damn near every year to come to... this dumpster fire of a team/FO.. who coincidentally has no qb to throw him the ball.

Sounds like agent hype to get interest/price drummed up.

I would like to see the FO go after a top tier pass rusher like Dlaw or Clowney though.. put one of those guys next to Allen, Payne, Settle Kerrigan and Anderson and let the bodies hit the floor.

Gonna cost a bunch though.

Don't see how the team will sign one of those guys, resign Ha-Ha, and pursue a WR or S if Landon Collins does indeed become available..

 

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I dont get the Bridgewater love either..  He hasn't started in 3 years... the guy was average at best before he got hurt and since he hasn't played, nobody knows if its an injury that could creep back up. He is no better than the crop of other available QBs and none are better than a below average stop gap. Some will get overpaid no doubt.. thats the nature of it.. but it shouldn't be the Skins.

1) He was a pro-bowler prior to the injury - for 1 year before NFL got tape on him and its been 3 years.

2) He looked good in the 2018 pre-season with the Jets. Against us. See the link below - QBs often look good in preseason against vanilla Ds, that often does not translate to regular season

3) Sean Payton likes him - Have you seen the saints FA pickups over the last 5 years.. .they've been really bad

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1 hour ago, oraphus said:

 

1) He was a pro-bowler prior to the injury - for 1 year before NFL got tape on him and its been 3 years.

Not sure i understand what you’re trying to get at here...that 1 year was his 2015 season and he was out for all of 2016 AND 2017 cause of the injury, and backup to Brees in 2018 (those being the 3 years since his pro bowl type season). Not like he had much of a choice, or a chance for the NFL to see how he’d play after the teams got tape on him (because of the injury). If he went to a team where he’d actually start instead of being the backup, who knows how he’d do🤷🏻‍♂️ heck, he might shock some people. 

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Anyone know of this flight that Allen, Payne, Guice and and a team official and dans assistant took last week? Suppose it was to entice Antonio Brown to sign with us? 

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2 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Not sure i understand what you’re trying to get at here...that 1 year was his 2015 season and he was out for all of 2016 AND 2017 cause of the injury, and backup to Brees in 2018 (those being the 3 years since his pro bowl type season). Not like he had much of a choice, or a chance for the NFL to see how he’d play after the teams got tape on him (because of the injury). If he went to a team where he’d actually start instead of being the backup, who knows how he’d do🤷🏻‍♂️ heck, he might shock some people. 

he threw for 3200yds and 14Tds 9int .. thats not exactly probowl numbers on an O that moved through AP. Bortles and Osweiler both come to mind as QBs that had success early only to fall off a cliff. Bridgewater has not yet put enough on tape to warrant a decent contract that he will undoubtably want. 

 

I am not against bridgewater but just dont see Skins winning here.. I doubt he is going to sign for anything less than 10mil per year. and thats too high a price for Skins for a qb that might not even beat out Mccoy for a starting job

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16 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Anyone know of this flight that Allen, Payne, Guice and and a team official and dans assistant took last week? Suppose it was to entice Antonio Brown to sign with us? 

Bruce Allen or Jonathan Allen?

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6 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Bruce Allen or Jonathan Allen?

Ohh right. Shoulda made that clearer. Jonathan Allen. With Payne, Guice, a team official and dans assistant. 

 

Chad (the Australian guy who had been to training camp a few years) and the redskinstoday Twitter Page brought it up cause they didn’t hear it had been reported at all which is kinda strange. It’s some mystery flight or something. Might not mean anything at all, but heck, it’s the offseason so i need anything to talk about at this point 😂

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11 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Bruce Allen or Jonathan Allen?

Jonathan.

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54 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Ohh right. Shoulda made that clearer. Jonathan Allen. With Payne, Guice, a team official and dans assistant. 

 

Chad (the Australian guy who had been to training camp a few years) and the redskinstoday Twitter Page brought it up cause they didn’t hear it had been reported at all which is kinda strange. It’s some mystery flight or something. Might not mean anything at all, but heck, it’s the offseason so i need anything to talk about at this point 😂

Hail ya..ya I remember Chad.. interesting tidbits..thanks for sharing.

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I am sticking to a wanting a reboot kind of season in 2019 to set up for the kill 2020.  So I am ok with them doing nothing or do their vintage Bruce baragain basement FA signings which often amount to the same thing -- nothing.  But if they have to play in FA and they are serious with a win now season, then this dude might help the receiver corp as long as they don't totally break the bank for him.  I doubt they do it, though. 

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2019-free-agency-profile-tyrell-williams?utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=cjaff&cjevent=ab5db4b439c011e9817e00b60a240612

 

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Williams has proved himself as a true deep threat, catching a 75-plus yard touchdown in three of his four seasons and leading the league in deep pass yards in the first seven weeks of 2018 (291 yards). The Western Oregon alumnus’ 15.9 yards per reception ranks 10th among qualifying wide receivers. The four-year veteran has been the third or fourth fiddle in the Los Angeles Chargers’ offense for a majority of his career, but that hasn’t hurt his numbers with Philip Rivers throwing him the football.

 

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